NCD ZEOLITE = a S C A M was Re: Helped needed

Alison an other detoxers,

Sorry to pop some bubbles here,

But I can't stand it when I see desperate and other gullible people are
scammed money out of their (small) wallets, by organized crime aka con man,
( and operating in an expensive MLM scheme, covered by pseudoscience articles ),
The absolute number 1 in that category is " Waiora’s Natural Cellular Defense ".

You can not have liquid zeolite !
zeolite is an in water un-dissolvable volcanic rock,
found at the bottom of the sea. ( so if it was dissolvable, it would have been gone, right? )

Zeolites have indeed special properties, who are used in e.g. gardening and fish tanks,
and cheap fillers in the chemical and paint industry and in air and water filters, in your laundry detergent etc.
It cost less then +- 0.33$/ kilo for solid zeolite; try to calculate how much they ripped you of,
150 $ for a few milligrams dissolved in water ? So they add more then 99.99% to their cost prize as profit,
so you are paying more then 1000 times to much for something that even can't work.

It can't work because they dissolved this mineral stone with it's unique physical properties
in hot acids, then ad some caustic product to it to re neutralize it;
whats left is some chemical, water soluble, salts who do not have any
of the original properties any more.

If you are convinced that you need to detox, and your also convinced that zeolites
can do it, try to find solid powdered zeolites, and some that comes with real science credentials;
and not something liquid, it simply can't work. ( The solids can absorb some stuff in your tummy track,
it will not go into your veins, searching for heavy metals .)

You don't have to believe me ( i'm a chemist btw, with NFI in any supplement or so).
Open your eyes, search and start to read and learn :
A few tips :
<www.litmuszine.com/feature/side_4.23.07.html> and part 2: <www.litmuszine.com/feature/6.04.07.html>
<www.herbological.com/herblog/?p=162>

What it really is and can do: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolite>

Why liquid zeolite can't work ( like a said before on this list) :
<www.chem1.com/CQ/wonkywater.html#ZEO>
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Zeolites are solids and their properties are directly dependent on their solid-state structure; zeolites cannot exist as liquids, nor can they be dissolved in liquids without decomposition. This elementary fact has not deterred numerous promoters from offering "liquid zeolite" products, often at extortionate prices; these should be regarded as nothing more than old-fashioned snake-oil. As for ingesting solid zeolites, they are largely inert and will simply pass through the digestive tract without much change. There is no reason to believe that they can pass into the vascular system, and thence into individual cells. Two typical misinformation-filled sites are <http://www.liquidzeolite.org/faq.html#1000.>this one, and also <http://www.newstarget.com/015232.html>this rant on something called "Natural Cellular Defense".

As if taking advantage of chemistry-challenged consumers and desperate cancer victims is not bad enough, some hucksters go for the new-age mind-mush crowd:

"A group of scientists recently met and they put these drops under an electron microscope and discovered that this product is alive. It is generating light. They they dehydrated it and reconstituted it and it still emits light. In other words... Cellular Electrical Energy is the Life Force of the BodyTHIS RECHARGES THE HUMAN BATTERY!" [<http://www.quantumenergeticshealth.com/977332.html>link]

Well, anybody who falls for this kind of garbage can consider the money they pay as a "tax on stupidity".
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And a lot more on the net, just waiting for you to read.
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So people, I can understand that some of you are a bit desperate after years of un useful doctoring,
and that you see no other choice then going the alterative way, but don't let you get fooled
by the massive load of scam artists in this field.

Lesson learned today: their is no such a thing as liquid Zeolites, so never buy it for any medical problem,
and even solid forms are not going trough your veins scavenging heavy metals.

Next lesson, there is not any pendant that protects you from EMF. ;-)

Grts
Bruno M.
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> And a lot more on the net, just waiting for you to read.

Yes, and there is a lot more on the net to read which is
positive about NCD... I've seen positive reports from doctors
who use it on their heavy metal toxic patients, I've seen
positive reports from users on heavy metal toxicity
discussion groups. And me mercury-free dentist with
decades of experience says that its currently the best
heavy metal chelator on the market.

But like some, I don't tolerate it -- for me, it seems to
mobilize far more toxins than it actually takes out of my
body.

Marc

Hi Marc / Andrew / Ian / 'Pickpinkflowers' / Bruno M

Thanks for the feedback, my mouth is about 30 percent
better now, Ive had an easy weekend and am still
awaiting the swab results from the doctor. I think it
looks to have been an allergic reaction, potentially
to the 'un-pasturised' cheese I ate that evening (Ive
not had it before). My tongue has since got a yellow
tinge which seems to point to toxin overload so maybe
I have been rushing things too much.... I suppose it
could be anything.

I want to stick with the Zeolite as I felt it was
working (I will start again in one week, I will take a
break as advised). To be honest, placebo or not, it
makes me feel more energetic and I felt it was doing
something. I do realise that some items I buy for ES
will be a waste of money but I accept this and am
happy to give it a go...this is the only way we will
all cure this dreadful problem

I do not feel scammed, I had a choice to buy this
product knowing there was a chance it would not work
for me...I did some research and there seems to be a
lot of positive comments in its favour. I have been
proved wrong with the Earthcalm Resonator, I did not
believe this could make a diffeence but the
improvement was massive (my vertigo of the last 10
years has actually almost gone). I dont really care
whethere this is in my head or not, if it works, it
works. i apprecaite the info on the 'science' but I
cant sit here and do nothing...I prefer to keep
trying, even if i am a few quid down!

I appreciate the fast response, I was very concerned
but much calmer now.

Thanks,
Alison


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