My ES must be PARTLY psychosomatic...

This is crazy... I can't use a PC or even a laptop on battery for more than a couple of minutes. So I got a projector and a long mouse and keyboard lead, and was OK to use that for a couple of years. Now, even that is causing me problems within about five minutes. So I assume moving out to the garden will be OK. I put my laptop and projector in the garden shed, and sit with my bare feet on the lawn, being about fifteen feet away from the laptop and the projector. But I am STILL suffering when working like this, really really badly. This doesn't make sense - EMFs cannot be affecting me this far away, and I am fully grounded by being on the lawn (and am wearing leather gloves to type). So surely my ES must be partly 'just in the mind'? It feels very real and painful...

How near are you cell phone towers?

I think the majority of my symptoms are caused by these. I have had a gradual onset since around 2002 when these things really started to proliferate.

My nearest towers are 600 m away but there are 3 sets, including a TETRA mast and they have just switched on the 4G service.  :(

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> This is crazy... I can't use a PC or even a laptop on battery for more than a couple of minutes. So I got a projector and a long mouse and keyboard lead, and was OK to use that for a couple of years. Now, even that is causing me problems within about five minutes. So I assume moving out to the garden will be OK. I put my laptop and projector in the garden shed, and sit with my bare feet on the lawn, being about fifteen feet away from the laptop and the projector. But I am STILL suffering when working like this, really really badly. This doesn't make sense - EMFs cannot be affecting me this far away, and I am fully grounded by being on the lawn (and am wearing leather gloves to type). So surely my ES must be partly 'just in the mind'? It feels very real and painful...
>

It took me a long time to realize that symptoms persist long after one's last exposure to EMFs--possibly days even.  So it is always hard to tell whether you're reacting in the present, to electrostressors, or whether it is a delayed/sustained reaction from earlier in the day/week...


 

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This is crazy... I can't use a PC or even a laptop on battery for more than a couple of minutes. So I got a projector and a long mouse and keyboard lead, and was OK to use that for a couple of years. Now, even that is causing me problems within about five minutes. So I assume moving out to the garden will be OK. I put my laptop and projector in the garden shed, and sit with my bare feet on the lawn, being about fifteen feet away from the laptop and the projector. But I am STILL suffering when working like this, really really badly. This doesn't make sense - EMFs cannot be affecting me this far away, and I am fully grounded by being on the lawn (and am wearing leather gloves to type). So surely my ES must be partly 'just in the mind'? It feels very real and painful...



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I don't think I am near any masts. To be honest, my symptoms are only really a problem when I am using a computer/projector or near a TV. 
 
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On April 24, [hidden email] wrote:
> This doesn't make sense - EMFs cannot be affecting me this far away, and I am
> fully grounded by being on the lawn (and am wearing leather gloves to type).
> So surely my ES must be partly 'just in the mind'? It feels very real and painful...

No, I think you have become really sensitive, or that laptop or projector is really
nasty (meaning that other brands might not be so bad).  I can recall times when
I would react to my television set from 25 feet away.  Fortunately those days are
long gone... as I recall, my extreme sensitivity seemed to respond well to a
supplement called "ThyroZyme" from Apex, which is a sort of "kitchen sink"
supplement for the endrocrine system (contains extracts to help the thyroid,
adrenals, pituitary, hypothalamus, B-vitamins, etc.)

Marc

Have you considered dirty electricity? Most electrical grids have dirty electricity. It is said to be worse than RF. There is TWACS, as well, which Tim talked about. This runs through the circuits in the house. After reading what Barrie Trower says about Tetra and what I have heard about 4G, I would not want to hang around anywhere near it.
Of course there is a fear involved with ES, as once we know what we have we are worried about it. However, I would not suggest that the mind has created the problem.
Hugs from Nanaimo, B.C. Canada

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Penny,

You can check how many towers are near on  This might be U.S only site

www.antennasearch.com

I have reactions to the computer, TV, & electric too.

Kathy


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Penny Harper <[hidden email]> wrote:


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mouse and keyboards give off rf from the computer and when this is hooked  
up to the mains anything can be broadcast via the very things you lay your
hands  on, also the immune system is a clever thing it so once it recognises
things as  a threat it will tag them as dangerous and react in numerous ways
sometimes it  take cumulative exposure for x amount of time, but I think
that if you use an  electrical gadget as an esser you immune system gets very
familiar with the  emissions and may even recognise the gadget by this, so
it something changes ie  dirty power riding in over the circuits it may
decide that it should put you off  using the device as it now sees it as a
threat, so saving (it thinks) the  organism ie you as a whole.
Also ES for many is frequency/power level/density dose responsive at a  
certain combination of these factors you will get a strong reaction, yet out of
 your reactive windows you may experience anomolous non reactions which
your mind  will be confused by and create stress and tension, this is
phchosomatic so you  need to listen to the body not the mind.  There is a pavlovian
conditioned  response bound to happen but you have to see it as a natural
consequence and  overlay of the very real sensations/trauma that you get from
various  elctromagnetic devices.  How can I tell you blind folded where and
which  side of the road mobile phone antenneas are when out in a car for a
long drive  down the motorways ?  there is no phchosomatic reaction here other
than how  I deal with the itching/stinging sensation that I initially get -
they warn me  to leave the vicinity but of course that is not always
possible so like so many  things in life you have to try to adapt and cope without
adding to the burden  with all the damaging symptoms that Stress and
anxiety will heap onto this very  real mother of a problem
 
puk
 
 
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[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Have you considered dirty electricity? Most electrical grids have dirty  
electricity. It is said to be worse than RF. There is TWACS, as well, which  
Tim talked about. This runs through the circuits in the house. After reading  
what Barrie Trower says about Tetra and what I have heard about 4G, I would
 not want to hang around anywhere near it.
Of course there is a fear  involved with ES, as once we know what we have
we are worried about it.  However, I would not suggest that the mind has
created the problem.
Hugs  from Nanaimo, B.C. Canada

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"egg_chips_and_beans" <charliefoulkes@...> wrote:
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> How  near are you cell phone towers?
>
> I think the majority of my  symptoms are caused by these. I have had a
gradual onset since around 2002  when these things really started to
proliferate.
>
> My nearest  towers are 600 m away but there are 3 sets, including a TETRA
mast and they  have just switched on the 4G service. :(
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
pennyharper@  wrote:
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> > This is crazy... I can't use a PC or even a  laptop on battery for more
than a couple of minutes. So I got a projector and  a long mouse and
keyboard lead, and was OK to use that for a couple of years.  Now, even that is
causing me problems within about five minutes. So I assume  moving out to the
garden will be OK. I put my laptop and projector in the  garden shed, and
sit with my bare feet on the lawn, being about fifteen feet  away from the
laptop and the projector. But I am STILL suffering when working  like this,
really really badly. This doesn't make sense - EMFs cannot be  affecting me
this far away, and I am fully grounded by being on the lawn (and  am wearing
leather gloves to type). So surely my ES must be partly 'just in  the mind'?
It feels very real and painful...
>  >
>






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penny, do you have any surgical implants?  
any metal in your body?  
in your teeth?  
have you ever had heavy metal poisoning?  
have you met any 'military intelligence' people?  
could you have something inside that is
attracting the emf to you.  ?
love, patricia


On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> This is crazy... I can't use a PC or even a laptop on battery for more than a couple of minutes. So I got a projector and a long mouse and keyboard lead, and was OK to use that for a couple of years. Now, even that is causing me problems within about five minutes. So I assume moving out to the garden will be OK. I put my laptop and projector in the garden shed, and sit with my bare feet on the lawn, being about fifteen feet away from the laptop and the projector. But I am STILL suffering when working like this, really really badly. This doesn't make sense - EMFs cannot be affecting me this far away, and I am fully grounded by being on the lawn (and am wearing leather gloves to type). So surely my ES must be partly 'just in the mind'? It feels very real and painful...
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