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KathyB

I have come to the conclusion that I have Morgellans. I found this site & a few others.

If any of you have sensations of crawling or movement, that may or may not have itching involved, please consider it.  I think it is a combination of taking supplements, medicines containing polymers,  chemtrails, & molds. The radio shows say much of the population will be effected, as it's in many foods. Of course processed is the worst.

Radio shows w victims & doctors.
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_morgellons_053011.mp3

sufferer's site

There are many sites, If you find a good one or doctor's protocol, please let me know.

It does lesson with yeast &  parasite remedies, but they can be nauseating, & not tolerated by all. I have not tried drinking water with Miracle II neutralizer, but may soon.
If you try that please go slow w just a drop or 2.

I can say from experience the Rife machine works. We're working on a zapper.

Blessings,
Kathy


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KathyB

Please read & print this article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2527668/


 Throw out all your vitamins & medicines w these nano-particles. I could have had it before this, but noticed redness & itching was from a vitamin w alginate, & a digestive enzyme with cellulose. I felt a few ittle fiberous things in my mouth. Read all supplement ingredients.

I don't have noticeable or numerous lesions, thank God. The problem is the sensations & burning never goes away, no matter how little electric I'm near. My doc did take off something that was tested & heard it was nothing.

The drug co's know, they & chem trails caused it. I'm sure they have no idea how to treat it, so they'll ignore it.



Kathy



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Has anyone measured their skin & gotten RF readings?


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Elizabeth thode
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Do you have any metal in your body? Because there are quite alot of ES people who do have metal of some sort in their body, and do report the burning.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions here with the nano particles and the Morgellans thing.
While I will admit the nano thing is worrisome, just because some supplements have them, does NOT make all supplements that have them suspect.
Much has to do with the integrity of supplement source. And anything coming from the gov't sourced information in my book; IS SUSPECT!
Blessings,
Lizzie
 



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Please read & print this article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2527668/

 Throw out all your vitamins & medicines w these nano-particles. I could have had it before this, but noticed redness & itching was from a vitamin w alginate, & a digestive enzyme with cellulose. I felt a few ittle fiberous things in my mouth. Read all supplement ingredients.

I don't have noticeable or numerous lesions, thank God. The problem is the sensations & burning never goes away, no matter how little electric I'm near. My doc did take off something that was tested & heard it was nothing.

The drug co's know, they & chem trails caused it. I'm sure they have no idea how to treat it, so they'll ignore it.

Kathy

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Fascinating question!!!
I can go to the store and my daughter can tell by just placing her hands 3 inches from mine, whether I went into a strongly RF'd area or not.
Rite Aid by my house is BAD...but the Save On DRugs isn't bad. *And I never tell her where I went before she does this readng.This is just something we've always done. I come home, go near her and ask "how bad I am" meaning how strongly RF'd I am. Then she'll tell me what she picks up. Then I know to stay far far away from her for a few hours until it dissipates from my body. Changng clothes and discharging helps...but it still takes a few hours. She is much more sensitive to this RF then I am.
If I go into the big city like Flint, she can get a "reading" from all the way across the room.
I have to strip my "irradiated" clothing or I can't be IN the same room with her- even a large room.
I have taken my meter and measured high readings in the same room/area of my house, that someone from the "outside" world (meaning someone who is a cell phone junkie)
 had just been in. I will get a high reading. But when no one has been here? I will NOT get those same readings.
Some people, even ESsers, have found it hard to believe, that some of "us" like me and my daughter, literally can FEEL the RF coming off of people. If someone who is a cell phone junky even touches me, that part of my body will hurt.
 
Lizzie



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Has anyone measured their skin & gotten RF readings?

Kathy

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I have not chelated, so I'm sure I  have some metals.

You're right, we have to consider the supplement co's source on ingredients.

I am not sure I have this.

Kathy
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Do you have any metal in your body? Because there are quite alot of ES people who do have metal of some sort in their body, and do report the burning.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions here with the nano particles and the Morgellans thing.

While I will admit the nano thing is worrisome, just because some supplements have them, does NOT make all supplements that have them suspect.

Much has to do with the integrity of supplement source. And anything coming from the gov't sourced information in my book; IS SUSPECT!

Blessings,

Lizzie

 






 










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KathyB

Does anyone have supplement co's you checked out as not having

pollymers? No silicone, which can be made from silica?

What type of cellulose is safe?









 










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Elizabeth thode

I know you are trying very hard to find safe supplements. Cellulose is as you will read in the enclosed links, a natural plant substance. In my opinion, having done a fair amt of research into both nano technology and Morgellans, it is NOT the problem. The problem is unsavory co's who use cheap ingredients, many from CHINA!
And there are safe supplements to be found. It takes time, energy, to call these co's, to carefully read the ingredients, to gain experience in which co's can be trusted, and those who cannot be trusted. But having already been where you are now at....there are 4 or 5 co's I deal with on a regular basis for my supplements. I look for: grass fed, no hormones, no steroids if it is a raw glandular. I look for safe packaging, I look for integrity in the company I deal with. That means I read their front home page, I read the reviews, I google and I DO NOT look for the cheapest product out there. I look for ORGANIC in the supplement, if it can be produced organically.
And I look for results. If something makes me sick, its either the product ingredients or it is my body not able to metabolise the supplement, because there is an imbalance somewhere.
***When I find a product that works for both me and mine, that's the ONE I keep using. That company gets my business.
I deal with: www.wellnessreources.com  www.mercola.com    www.drrons's.com    www.nutri-meds.com    www.naturalnews.com (click on link to their store). All of these co's have ONE thing in common. They are ALL alternative health based. Particularly mercola's, mike adams at natural news, and Dr. Ron's. ALL ARE NOT MAINSTREAM. They are excellent sources of true helpful health information.  
Both Mercola and wellness resources make a safe Vit D3. Both Natural News and Mercola make/sell excellent Cholella and Spirulena. Nutri meds I use their raw glandulars, both the thyroid and adrenals. Dr. Rons also makes a very good raw adrenal glandular. Wellness sells one of the best Vit B Complex I have found, to date. Ancient Minerals sells the best Magnesium Chloride Oil and BAth crystals. www.Magnascent.com  sells the best Iodine (magnascent Iodine). Although Ancient Minerals sells the same stuff, I can get a larger bottle at Magnascent.com which is economically a better deal, as we take this every day.
Blessings, Lizzie
 
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Does anyone have supplement co's you checked out as not having

pollymers? No silicone, which can be made from silica?

What type of cellulose is safe?

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KathyB

What strength iodine  is good to start with? I've used kelp, which I read isn't clean all the time.

Do you have to follow iodine w a dose of sea salt later?



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www.Magnascent.com  sells the best Iodine (magnascent Iodine). Although Ancient Minerals sells the same stuff, I can get a larger bottle at Magnascent.com which is economically a better deal, as we take this every day.

Blessings, Lizzie

 

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polymers? No silicone, which can be made from silica?



What type of cellulose is safe?



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Kelp is fine as long as its coming from clean sources. Much kelp is grown in controlled conditions. The only problem with Kelp, that I see, is that you have to take ALOT of it, to restore the body's levels of Iodine. Think of it as filling an "empty swimming pool". There are Iodine receptor cells all over the body. Not just in the thyroid gland. AFter a lifetime of being deficient, it takes ALOT of Iodine to restore the body to a healthy level of Iodine. And I do also take Kelp rich supplements like Emerald SEa and Brown Seaweed Algae-- which are forms of Kelp. But I take those in ADDITION to taking the magnascent Iodine drops. Alone, the kelp is not enough.
Which strenghth? They sell the 1 % and the 2%. (Lugol's, which here in MI, went from over the counter to prescription only a few years ago, is 5% and very very strong.) I have used LUgol's when my daughter had a severe reaction to cordless phones...her outer throat swelled up like an elephant. With 15 min of giving her the very strong LUgols, just a few drops, the swelling went down and stayed down. Otherwise, on a daily basis, we take the 2% Iodine usually in water.(**Wireless Radiation/ as well as nuclear radiation (think Fukushima- think this is NOW in the air WE BREATHE)** attacks the thyroid and sucks the Iodine OUT of the body, much like it causes Calcium Efflux, which is the leachng of Calcium from the cells. **)
 
Well, you can buy the 2% and take less. Or buy the 1% and take more. It depends how you want to do it. Newbies are going to start out  with low doses either way. And depending upon your individual body's unique history....and how severe the candida/parasite problem is, that will guide you on how much your body can tolerate. Start with 3 drops in water and slowly build up, upping the dose every 4-5 days by one to two drops. We have been taking this for years...when the weather is COLDER< the thyroid needs MORE Iodine and support. So in the winter, we may take anywhere from 18 to 28 drops a day. **This is why I like the bigger 16 oz bottle! In the warmer months, we take 9 to 13 drops. This is also dependent upon the levels of radiation we are exposed to. When I run errands in heavily wifi'd/cell phone areas, I put some directly on my neck/thyroid area! I even take it straight, under the tongue and wash down with water. This way is the fastest absorption methods, although not everyone can tolerate it, as it burns the mouth. I am used to it. My child was only 11 when I started her on the Iodine, and I started her on 3 drops, building up to 15 over a period of probably  2 months. She is skinny...and did well with it. But we also did many cleansings for candida/parasites. Those who haven't done these may find that the Iodine gives you a head ache, this is the Iodine killing off the candida. It is NOT the body being allergic, as many would think. Very few are truly allergic to Iodine, as there are Iodine receptor cells all over the body, in most all glands. If the body reacts, it is more so that there are areas out of balance that need to be addressed along with the Iodine deficiency.
**You can take Iodine many ways. You can take it in water. You can put Iodine on the bottom of your feet. You can take it straight under the tongue. You can take Iodine drops and put them right in your belly button **I know this sounds weird, but think of the umbilical cord, it is the central  universal passage way to the body. I have a friend who has candida badly, and she got bad head aches from the Iodine in the water, so I suggested she try putting the Iodine in her belly button. She did this and it worked quite well. She started with two drops twice a day...and gradually upped her dose and after a few months, I think it took her 3-4, she could finally take the Iodine in water. But she had candida and diabetes and a fatty liver. but the important thing to realize here, is that she COULD tolerate the Iodine by putting the drops in her belly button! She felt much better and continued to improve. She said her memory was better, her moods were better, she slept better and she was so thankful that there was a way for her to take this vital nutrient, that didn't give her a headache!
The skin is the body's largest organ, so it should NOT be surprising that we can absorb vital nutrients just by putting them on the skin. This is why the Magnesium Chloride OIl is such a jewel. Soaking  your feet or taking a bath in the Magnesium Oil works great wonders!
Blessings,
Lizzie
 



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What strength iodine  is good to start with? I've used kelp, which I read isn't clean all the time.

Do you have to follow iodine w a dose of sea salt later?

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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www.Magnascent.com sells the best Iodine (magnascent Iodine). Although Ancient Minerals sells the same stuff, I can get a larger bottle at Magnascent.com which is economically a better deal, as we take this every day.

Blessings, Lizzie

Cellulose

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Does anyone have supplement co's you checked out as not having

polymers? No silicone, which can be made from silica?

What type of cellulose is safe?

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KathyB
Lizzy,

Thanks, I ordered the 1% to start. I'll have to adjust it. I have work to do. That must be why I put on 15 lbs since spring w/o diet changes.

Kathy

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Kelp is fine as long as its coming from clean sources. . The only problem with Kelp, that I see, is that you have to take ALOT of it, to restore the body's levels of Iodine. I do also take Kelp rich supplements like Emerald SEa and Brown Seaweed Algae-- which are forms of Kelp. But I take those in ADDITION to taking the magnascent Iodine drops. Alone, the kelp is not enough.

Which strenghth? They sell the 1 % and the 2%. (Lugol's, which here in MI, went from over the counter to prescription only a few years ago, is 5% and very very strong.) I have used LUgol's when my daughter had a severe reaction to cordless phones...her outer throat swelled up like an elephant. With 15 min of giving her the very strong LUgols,  Otherwise, on a daily basis, we take the 2% Iodine usually in water.(**Wireless Radiation/ as well as nuclear radiation (think Fukushima- think this is NOW in the air WE BREATHE)** attacks the thyroid and sucks the Iodine OUT of the body, much like it causes Calcium Efflux, which is the leachng of Calcium from the cells. **)

 

Well, you can buy the 2% and take less. Or buy the 1% and take more. It depends how you want to do it. Newbies are going to start out  with low doses either way.  Start with 3 drops in water and slowly build up, upping the dose every 4-5 days by one to two drops. We have been taking this for years...when the weather is COLDER< the thyroid needs MORE Iodine and support. So in the winter, we may take anywhere from 18 to 28 drops a day. **This is why I like the bigger 16 oz bottle! In the warmer months, we take 9 to 13 drops. n 3 drops, building up to 15 over a period of probably  2 months.

Blessings,

Lizzie

 








 










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Elizabeth thode

Kathy,
Goooooooood for you! Yup! When I started my journey into health...I had put on 30 lbs. nothing worked to take it off...until I started supporting my thryoid and adrenals. Then it came off and has stayed OFF. (Most of it was in my belly). The thyroid regulates the weight, as well as body temperature, heart, emotions, the brain, the memory, immune system, and when the thryoid is healthy, candida is MUCH MUCH easier to treat. I have a saying: "The thyroid is the elevator to the brain. They pineal gland is the highway to higher consciousness. And the adrenals are the Rottweillers that protect the body from disease and unhealth." I can now pull a memory of a phone number from the archives of my brain from 20 years ago! I don't leave the house forgetting anything. My sleep is wonderful. My dreams are a huge improvement over what they used to be.
Lizzie
 



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Lizzy,

Thanks, I ordered the 1% to start. I'll have to adjust it. I have work to do. That must be why I put on 15 lbs since spring w/o diet changes.

Kathy

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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Kelp is fine as long as its coming from clean sources. . The only problem with Kelp, that I see, is that you have to take ALOT of it, to restore the body's levels of Iodine. I do also take Kelp rich supplements like Emerald SEa and Brown Seaweed Algae-- which are forms of Kelp. But I take those in ADDITION to taking the magnascent Iodine drops. Alone, the kelp is not enough.

Which strenghth? They sell the 1 % and the 2%. (Lugol's, which here in MI, went from over the counter to prescription only a few years ago, is 5% and very very strong.) I have used LUgol's when my daughter had a severe reaction to cordless phones...her outer throat swelled up like an elephant. With 15 min of giving her the very strong LUgols,  Otherwise, on a daily basis, we take the 2% Iodine usually in water.(**Wireless Radiation/ as well as nuclear radiation (think Fukushima- think this is NOW in the air WE BREATHE)** attacks the thyroid and sucks the Iodine OUT of the body, much like it causes Calcium Efflux, which is the leachng of Calcium from the cells. **)

Well, you can buy the 2% and take less. Or buy the 1% and take more. It depends how you want to do it. Newbies are going to start out with low doses either way.  Start with 3 drops in water and slowly build up, upping the dose every 4-5 days by one to two drops. We have been taking this for years...when the weather is COLDER< the thyroid needs MORE Iodine and support. So in the winter, we may take anywhere from 18 to 28 drops a day. **This is why I like the bigger 16 oz bottle! In the warmer months, we take 9 to 13 drops. n 3 drops, building up to 15 over a period of probably 2 months.

Blessings,

Lizzie

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