Hi:
Has anyone had any experience using Mobius strips to reduce the effects of electropollution? As far as I know the only commercially available strips are found in Teslar watches. Are there other sources? Thank you Ray [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
This article http://tinyurl.com/2z8q9 says:
"In the mid 1980s a commercial device (Teslar Shielding Device) became available which utilized a mobius coil. The device was based on a patent which used a mobius strip in a crystal oscillator circuit." Here is some info from an ES person who used a special mobius coil for protection: http://educate-yourself.org/dc/spindex.shtml but this coil MUST be wound around a quartz crystal, or it will do nothing but make you sick! Just mail me if you want instruction in winding this kind of coil. If you have any info about mobius strips, please post them here or mail me. --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@...> wrote: > > Hi: > Has anyone had any experience using Mobius strips to reduce the effects of electropollution? > As far as I know the only commercially available strips are found in Teslar watches. > Are there other sources? > > Thank you > Ray > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Thank you for the two fascinating references.
My main problems are energy depletion and headaches when working with a desktop or laptop for more than an hour. I tried wearing a Teslar watch about one year ago for a couple of weeks and again recently. It did not make a noticeable difference. Using foam strips (1/2 inch wide) I've made some simple mobius strips (about 3"x6"). These I tested using a pendulum and muscle testing to determine the "positive" and "negative" sides of each strip. I've found that placing a strip in my upper shirt pocket with the positive side facing my body does have an effect. My energy level is greater and the headaches less after two plus hours in front of the same computers. All else is the same. Maybe its just a placebo effect - who cares as long as it works. These are simple passive strips so the effect of those incorporated into oscillator circuits with crystals as described in one of your references could be substantially greater. The 2002 prices are quite reasonable and instructions are provided for winding your own coils. The Caduceus and bifilar coils described by Glen Rein may also be worth looking into. Again many thanks for your response. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "elihme" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Mobius strips > This article http://tinyurl.com/2z8q9 says: > > "In the mid 1980s a commercial device (Teslar Shielding Device) became > available which utilized a mobius coil. The device was based on a > patent which used a mobius strip in a crystal oscillator circuit." > > Here is some info from an ES person who used a special mobius coil for > protection: > > http://educate-yourself.org/dc/spindex.shtml > > but this coil MUST be wound around a quartz crystal, or it will do > nothing but make you sick! > > Just mail me if you want instruction in winding this kind of coil. > > If you have any info about mobius strips, please post them here or > mail me. > > --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@...> wrote: > > > > Hi: > > Has anyone had any experience using Mobius strips to reduce the > effects of electropollution? > > As far as I know the only commercially available strips are found in > Teslar watches. > > Are there other sources? > > > > Thank you > > Ray > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
Your mobius strips are made from some kind of foam rubber strip? I had
expected an electrically conductive material. Could you give some details - like brand name, or if it is latex or neoprene rubber? Did you glue the ends together end to end, or with overlap? --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@...> wrote: > > Thank you for the two fascinating references. > My main problems are energy depletion and headaches when working with a > desktop or laptop for more than an hour. > I tried wearing a Teslar watch about one year ago for a couple of weeks and > again recently. It did not make a noticeable difference. > Using foam strips (1/2 inch wide) I've made some simple mobius strips (about > 3"x6"). > These I tested using a pendulum and muscle testing to determine the > "positive" and "negative" sides of each strip. I've found that placing a > strip in my upper shirt pocket with the positive side facing my body does > have an effect. My energy level is greater and the headaches less after two > plus hours in front of the same computers. All else is the same. Maybe its > just a placebo effect - who cares as long as it works. > These are simple passive strips so the effect of those incorporated into > oscillator circuits with crystals as described in one of your references > could be substantially greater. The 2002 prices are quite reasonable and > instructions are provided for winding your own coils. > The Caduceus and bifilar coils described by Glen Rein may also be worth > looking into. > Again many thanks for your response. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "elihme" <elihme@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:01 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Mobius strips > > > > This article http://tinyurl.com/2z8q9 says: > > > > "In the mid 1980s a commercial device (Teslar Shielding Device) became > > available which utilized a mobius coil. The device was based on a > > patent which used a mobius strip in a crystal oscillator circuit." > > > > Here is some info from an ES person who used a special mobius coil for > > protection: > > > > http://educate-yourself.org/dc/spindex.shtml > > > > but this coil MUST be wound around a quartz crystal, or it will do > > nothing but make you sick! > > > > Just mail me if you want instruction in winding this kind of coil. > > > > If you have any info about mobius strips, please post them here or > > mail me. > > > > --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi: > > > Has anyone had any experience using Mobius strips to reduce the > > effects of electropollution? > > > As far as I know the only commercially available strips are found in > > Teslar watches. > > > Are there other sources? > > > > > > Thank you > > > Ray > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Hi:
I've tried only non conductive materials - strips cut from sheets of foam and also from stiff paper but the latter is a bit more difficult to work with. The foam sheets were purchased from a craft store. I do not know what they are made of but they are quite common and inexpensive ( about $1.00 for 10"x16" sheet). Strips were cut 1/2" wide by 12" long. The ends were held loosely together with one hand while the remaining strip was twisted 180 degrees with the other hand to give the figure 8. The two ends were then taped together with scotch tape with no overlap. That's it. As mentioned earlier one side of the figure 8 gives a strong positive response when tested with a pendulum or with a muscle test and when the strip is flipped upside down then strong negative responses are obtained. Hope this helps. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "elihme" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:24 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Mobius strips > Your mobius strips are made from some kind of foam rubber strip? I had > expected an electrically conductive material. > > Could you give some details - like brand name, or if it is latex or > neoprene rubber? > > Did you glue the ends together end to end, or with overlap? > > --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@...> wrote: > > > > Thank you for the two fascinating references. > > My main problems are energy depletion and headaches when working with a > > desktop or laptop for more than an hour. > > I tried wearing a Teslar watch about one year ago for a couple of > weeks and > > again recently. It did not make a noticeable difference. > > Using foam strips (1/2 inch wide) I've made some simple mobius > strips (about > > 3"x6"). > > These I tested using a pendulum and muscle testing to determine the > > "positive" and "negative" sides of each strip. I've found that placing a > > strip in my upper shirt pocket with the positive side facing my body > does > > have an effect. My energy level is greater and the headaches less > after two > > plus hours in front of the same computers. All else is the same. > Maybe its > > just a placebo effect - who cares as long as it works. > > These are simple passive strips so the effect of those incorporated > into > > oscillator circuits with crystals as described in one of your references > > could be substantially greater. The 2002 prices are quite reasonable and > > instructions are provided for winding your own coils. > > The Caduceus and bifilar coils described by Glen Rein may also be worth > > looking into. > > Again many thanks for your response. > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "elihme" <elihme@...> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:01 PM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Mobius strips > > > > > > > This article http://tinyurl.com/2z8q9 says: > > > > > > "In the mid 1980s a commercial device (Teslar Shielding Device) became > > > available which utilized a mobius coil. The device was based on a > > > patent which used a mobius strip in a crystal oscillator circuit." > > > > > > Here is some info from an ES person who used a special mobius coil for > > > protection: > > > > > > http://educate-yourself.org/dc/spindex.shtml > > > > > > but this coil MUST be wound around a quartz crystal, or it will do > > > nothing but make you sick! > > > > > > Just mail me if you want instruction in winding this kind of coil. > > > > > > If you have any info about mobius strips, please post them here or > > > mail me. > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > Has anyone had any experience using Mobius strips to reduce the > > > effects of electropollution? > > > > As far as I know the only commercially available strips are found in > > > Teslar watches. > > > > Are there other sources? > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
Are you sure it is not the flat coil you are looking for? Can't
recall the name at the moment, but it is just that, a wire coiled round and round itself, totally flat? ~ Snoshoe --- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@...> wrote: > > Hi: > I've tried only non conductive materials - strips cut from sheets of foam > and also from stiff paper but the latter is a bit more difficult to work > with. > The foam sheets were purchased from a craft store. I do not know what they > are made of but they are quite common and inexpensive ( about $1.00 for > 10"x16" sheet). Strips were cut 1/2" wide by 12" long. The ends were held > loosely together with one hand while the remaining strip was twisted 180 > degrees with the other hand to give the figure 8. The two ends were then > taped together with scotch tape with no overlap. That's it. > As mentioned earlier one side of the figure 8 gives a strong positive > response when tested with a pendulum or with a muscle test and when the > strip is flipped upside down then strong negative responses are obtained. > Hope this helps. > Ray |
Hi folks:
What Snoshoe was referencing as a flat coil is often referenced as a "pancake coil" in the worlds of radio and electronics, and also in the "free energy" field. However, I believe that the coil which Ray has been mentioning is something which he has been calling a mobius coil, which is a different type of critter altogether. However, from his description of how he is making his coil, it appears to me that he may not be making a true mobius coil, but rather a "figure 8", which is not the same type of critter at all. with care, --Vinny At 02:35 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote: >Are you sure it is not the flat coil you are looking for? Can't >recall the name at the moment, but it is just that, a wire coiled >round and round itself, totally flat? > >~ Snoshoe > >--- In [hidden email], "Ray Kosan" <rkosan@...> wrote: > > > > Hi: > > I've tried only non conductive materials - strips cut from sheets >of foam > > and also from stiff paper but the latter is a bit more difficult to >work > > with. > > The foam sheets were purchased from a craft store. I do not know >what they > > are made of but they are quite common and inexpensive ( about $1.00 >for > > 10"x16" sheet). Strips were cut 1/2" wide by 12" long. The ends >were held > > loosely together with one hand while the remaining strip was >twisted 180 > > degrees with the other hand to give the figure 8. The two ends were >then > > taped together with scotch tape with no overlap. That's it. > > As mentioned earlier one side of the figure 8 gives a strong >positive > > response when tested with a pendulum or with a muscle test and when >the > > strip is flipped upside down then strong negative responses are >obtained. > > Hope this helps. > > Ray Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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