Microwaves

A quick question:

I was standing next to a microwave yestercday. I was about 2 feet away. Theleft side of my
head began to tingle, my tongue went numb, trouble breathing, rapid heart rate. I could
smell something. The smell is what seemed to cause my distrtess.

I had to ditch the scene..lolol..I don't go too fast but I seemed quick to me. My nose started
to bleed.

What was I smelling? (It was oatmeal in a glass bowl in the microwave).

What happened to me?

Karen

I think you are the best person to say what happened to you. I am
surprised that you still use a microwave and even stand so close to it.
The readings that I have taken around microwave ovens are incredible.
Unplug that sucker, rip it out of the wall, take it out side and shoot
it.

I also damages the protein structure of food and makes it toxic to eat.

Who knows what chemicals or metals was being kicked up in your blood
stream as they resonated with the radiation.

I am glad you are still alive.
Andrew
On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:45 AM, tayloka_40 wrote:

Hi,

Did it smell like burning rubber??

Some sort of panic/fear attack (whatever that is)..

Think i was gonna post the address of Himalaya Drug Company: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com

Mentat is a good one.

Also have tried Septilin (yummy) and Coflet.

Now i started Geriforte, "proven antistress adaptogenic, comprehensive tonic, sytemic and metabolic corrective".

Their meds are full of herbies. Often i release energy after starting a new one, and also then something leaves my body, physically..

(read once that once opun a time the people tried an ascent over in that region and something went wrong and thery descended instead, what was lost was absorbed in pplants and minerals.. just not sure, maybe//Love these meds..///)

Saffran is in it, always good..

Try and bring a Bach flower, or aromatherapy oil with so you can connect to a calming smell. Felt one coming on once, my body could not relax, the outside world goes wingy as well (and knowing what can happen does not help).. I tried to calm, smelling an empty incense carton.. In the end i took some tokes of a joint.. Thank you God, i got out of it..(this is when i asked you guys to light a candle//thx to who did!!)_ (Very important to have tools to calm down, whatever you see,hear, feel, this you have to know for a little later//. Pitbullfaith, Love will conquer)

Love

tayloka_40 <[hidden email]> wrote:
A quick question:

I was standing next to a microwave yestercday. I was about 2 feet away. The left side of my
head began to tingle, my tongue went numb, trouble breathing, rapid heart rate. I could
smell something. The smell is what seemed to cause my distrtess.

I had to ditch the scene..lolol..I don't go too fast but I seemed quick to me. My nose started
to bleed.

What was I smelling? (It was oatmeal in a glass bowl in the microwave).

What happened to me?

Karen





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Really weird! The reaction sounds like a chemical sensitivity one rather
than a direct ES one, but it's difficult to tell. Have you ever had
anything like that from a microwave before, or from oatmeal, or from the
combination? Is it a different brand, or has anything else changed?

Microwaves heat food in a different way to normal, and in some cases the
interior of a "lump" can overheat, thus causing decomposition and possible
gas release. Hard to imagine just with oatmeal, but then, other things are
harder still. MCS/ES so often seem to defy logic, but real symptoms can't be
ignored.

Sue can't stand near a microwave oven in use because of the magnetic fields
given off by the fan at the back. But again, that doesn't sound like your
symptoms.

Ian

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A quick question:

I was standing next to a microwave yestercday. I was about 2 feet away. The
left side of my
head began to tingle, my tongue went numb, trouble breathing, rapid heart
rate. I could
smell something. The smell is what seemed to cause my distrtess.

I had to ditch the scene..lolol..I don't go too fast but I seemed quick to
me. My nose started
to bleed.

What was I smelling? (It was oatmeal in a glass bowl in the microwave).

What happened to me?

Karen






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--- In [hidden email], "tayloka_40" <tayloka_40@...> wrote:
>
> Karen - maybe it was the insipient signs of the Nose bleed that you
had, ie you may have be smelling your own blood as it began to
discharge from blood vessels in your nose.


Paul

Andrew...buddy...LOLOL....I was at my mother's house. SHE was using the microwave.

I am just beginning to get out of the house. As in recently. Up to recently, I thought I was a
gonner. Even before my medical paper work identified me with a "connective tissue
disorder/servere & progressive/no cure/no treatment" I planned my funeral...gots my
affairs in order...it just did not FEEL like I was going to have the upper hand in this
situation.

In August of 04 I went into multiple organ failure. I don't remember much about what
happened. I just have snippets really. I think that is all I can tolerate for now. But to make a
long story short.....very short....my mother is a nurse practioner in ICU cardiology...since I
was in low bp (78/60), rapid pulse (140)...my mother was kinda thinkin' I was on the same
path too and I was refusing hospitalisation. That is another long story...LOLOLOL.....

She found a treatment centre offering FIR (negative ion therapy) through cranial sacral
stimulation.

I have been doing the FIR massage now for 16 months. I take 37 minute treatments four to
five times a day directly to my spine. I recently purchased the device. Pricey....

It was only this past summer that I have felt that I can, am, going to livethrough this.
Serious.

When I first came to this board you asked me what bothered me...well...Andrew...LOLOL...I
am just learning what I can and cannot tolerate. I know for sure I won't bedoing that again
with a microwave.

I was worried that one of you guys would come back and tell me that it was harmonic
distortion in my bone caused by the pick up or excitement of the fluoric acid.
Yep...thought for sure one of you was going to tell me that would be the
vibration...electrical output...happening right in my bone. I wonder if I would implode or
explode?

Phew....

LMAO

Karen



--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:

This sounds possible, Paul. It smelled pretty foul, though. I thought theremight be a gas that
microwaves uses or emit through operation. Like a refridgerator uses freon.I know that
printers emit ozone when the ink combusts from the heat. Thought that microwave might be
doing something.

Thanks.

Fortunately or Unfortunately, you may be leading the pack with research
into your condition and how to recover from it. Hang in there. You have
much to give the rest of us.
Andrew
On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:29 PM, tayloka_40 wrote:

Thanks for the web site, Perla. And the advice about the armomas. I didn't expect that. I
have a little emergency pack in my purse with potassium, calcium, kelp, andoregano oil.
The endothilin in oregano oil helps me breath and calms my lungs down.

I didn't smell rubber I didn't feel panic or anxiousness either. Felt more like I was cooking
rather than those oats.

I like that....."pittbull faith". Makes me think about what a guy on my team used to say to
me when I would ask him how his projects were going...he would say...

"It is a dog eat dog world out here, Karen...and I am wearing milkbone underwear."

I never saw any crumbs, so I guess he made it his way too....lololol...

Hey...I lit a candle for you when you asked. There were three on my window sill.....I lit all
three and I said each of your names. The window faces west in the sunset.

Nice room.

Karen

--- In [hidden email], perla1133 <perla1133@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>    
> Did it smell like burning rubber??
>    
> Some sort of panic/fear attack (whatever that is)..
>    
> Think i was gonna post the address of Himalaya Drug Company: http://
www.himalayahealthcare.com
>
> Mentat is a good one.
>    
> Also have tried Septilin (yummy) and Coflet.
>    
> Now i started Geriforte, "proven antistress adaptogenic, comprehensive tonic, sytemic
and metabolic corrective".
>    
> Their meds are full of herbies. Often i release energy after starting anew one, and also
then something leaves my body, physically..
>    
> (read once that once opun a time the people tried an ascent over in that region and
something went wrong and thery descended instead, what was lost was absorbed in
pplants and minerals.. just not sure, maybe//Love these meds..///)
>    
> Saffran is in it, always good..
>    
> Try and bring a Bach flower, or aromatherapy oil with so you can connect to a calming
smell. Felt one coming on once, my body could not relax, the outside world goes wingy as
well (and knowing what can happen does not help).. I tried to calm, smelling an empty
incense carton.. In the end i took some tokes of a joint.. Thank you God, igot out of it..
(this is when i asked you guys to light a candle//thx to who did!!)_ (Very important to have
tools to calm down, whatever you see,hear, feel, this you have to know for a little later//.
Pitbullfaith, Love will conquer)
>    
> Love
>  
> tayloka_40 <tayloka_40@...> wrote:
> A quick question:
>
> I was standing next to a microwave yestercday. I was about 2 feet away. The left side of
my
> head began to tingle, my tongue went numb, trouble breathing, rapid heartrate. I could
> smell something. The smell is what seemed to cause my distrtess.
>
> I had to ditch the scene..lolol..I don't go too fast but I seemed quick to me. My nose
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Karen,

This could also have been an unusual detox response to a
microwave-provoked toxin crisis in the brain. Perhaps the smell is what
'gave the idea' to your brain that the problem was with the smell, thus
it chose an extreme detox solution (the nosebleed). But the actual
problem would have been the super-heated toxins in the brain. The
temporary numbness one side sounds also a bit like a Lyme Disease type
of neurotoxin overload, which would be consistent with these toxins. I
have had those sensations and even mini-seizures. And I also have
connective tissue problems (I have subclinical Marfan's), which are
common among people who have difficulty detoxifying neurotoxins. This
is described in the book 'Mold Warriors.' (also see
www.chronicneurotoxins.com <http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/> ). So
if this is correct, the problem was actually that you have poor
neurotoxin detox, and you had a high toxin load in your brain yesterday,
and the microwaves provoked a neurological overload event because of the
toxin load (which was in the nerves).

Did you have a virus, or a powerful stressor or infection flare-up going
on yesterday? Or some unusual eating pattern (maybe overstressing your
detox pathways)? Something that could have increased your neurotoxin
load?

--Kurt

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A quick question:

I was standing next to a microwave yestercday. I was about 2 feet away.
The left side of my
head began to tingle, my tongue went numb, trouble breathing, rapid
heart rate. I could
smell something. The smell is what seemed to cause my distrtess.

I had to ditch the scene..lolol..I don't go too fast but I seemed quick
to me. My nose started
to bleed.

What was I smelling? (It was oatmeal in a glass bowl in the microwave).

What happened to me?

Karen





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I thought so too, Ian. Usually, most electrical equipment hurts my ears. I can hear it. For
some reason, my hearing has become acute. I can HEAR a light go on before it's on. It
sounds like a high pitched snapping sound.

I don't use microwaves and aside from this computer and my phone, no cell phone, I
cannot believe I had two AND a page, it is pretty low tech here.

Is Sue your wife/partner?

Hey...you want to find something interesting to contemplate, I don't know where you are
in England but there are a few centres over there I have heard...you shouldcheck this out.

www.ceragem.com

Find one near you, go, and let me know what you think. If Sue is suffering from ES, man I
hope it is nothing like me, she would find this really helpful.

Take care, Ian.

Karen

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I must've missed getting one of the daily updates.

All frequencies have their own color and sound, so it wouldn't be
unusual to smell a particular frequency either if you are susceptible
to it.
Although the microwave may also have something it outgasses when it's
on. I can't stand the smell of lots of new stuff, especially
plastics.

I've met people who can smell certain things no one else can, not
having to do with a chemical sensitivity. Don't know if it is even
something dogs can smell or not.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "tayloka_40" <tayloka_40@...> wrote:
>
> This sounds possible, Paul. It smelled pretty foul, though. I
thought there might be a gas that
> microwaves uses or emit through operation. Like a refridgerator
uses freon. I know that
> printers emit ozone when the ink combusts from the heat. Thought
that microwave might be
> doing something.
>
> Thanks.
>

Hey, when you are able some time, can you say how the cranial sacral
may have helped? I've heard from a couple local people that like it,
but not sure why, and haven't been able to try it myself.

Oh, and has anyone else here tried "polarity therapy" to balance your
fields? Have done it for my daughter, but a little more difficult to
administer to yourself. :)

Doggone it Tayloka, why'd'ja say that! :p. You're right you know, but
you obviously have the stronger frequency, so you just keep on
vibrating those fluoride harmonics right out of you!Lol.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "tayloka_40" <tayloka_40@...> wrote:

> She found a treatment centre offering FIR (negative ion therapy)
through cranial sacral
> stimulation.
>
> I was worried that one of you guys would come back and tell me that
it was harmonic
> distortion in my bone caused by the pick up or excitement of the
fluoric acid.
> Yep...thought for sure one of you was going to tell me that would
be the
> vibration...electrical output...happening right in my bone. I
wonder if I would implode or
> explode?
>
> Phew....
>
> LMAO
>
> Karen

You know...gotta love ya sweetheart...LOLOLOL...

Doesn't just suck to be right ALL the time?

Hey....I think I am made of some pretty darn human stuff here...all wrappedup in this
unique digital signature that is just me.....

T
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This is interesting, Kurt. I have some ideas about viruses and such. I willhave to look into
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Thanks.

Karen
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