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evie15422

Re: Quantum products; formerly Meter Readings

Hi, Kris,

I have a Quantum Pro (it has more settings than the Q Home and was recommended by the company rep because my house was just over 1000 sq ft--plus I have a basement besides-- and the Q Home is for up to 1000sq ft.). The Q Pro helps me amazingly with electrical wiring issues--our house was one big ground loop mess. I cannot say it will help you,but it does help me with wiring and electrosmog/"dirty air" fromoutside the house. I oddly can tell the difference even having the front door open. I was told it created a bubble around your home. I had my doubts, but it does appear to do just that.

Good luck; I hope it works for you,
Diane

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:14 PM

> Is there a website about these Quantums? I've been reading your emails
> and been wondering then if they would help me. I know we have some bad
> wiring in this house but without me living out of it for a while we can't
> get into reconstruction. My husband did ground properly a few of the
> circuits. Would then this Quantum stuff help? Can you enlighten me?

There *is* a website that you can read and order stuff:

http://quantumprodu cts.com/

Loni tried a Quantum Home and noticed nothing. A few others I know have
tried them and noticed an improvement. I've tried at least 50 EMF
protection devices, and this is the one product line that has helped
me the most with florescent lights, computers, and EMF coming
into the house from the outside.

They have a money-back guarantee. Loni has confirmed that it works. :-)

Marc

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Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by steve

Interesting site. Wish they gave more solid info though.What questions did you ask them?
Kris

________________________________
From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings

www.quantumproducts.com
I can't tell you if they work as I haven't tried them yet. I emailed the website with questions but haven't heard back yet.
Marc knows all about them

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, K <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: K <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:39 PM
> Is there a website about these
> Quantums? I've been reading your emails and been
> wondering then if they would help me. I know we have
> some bad wiring in this house but without me living out of
> it for a while we can't get into reconstruction. My
> husband did ground properly a few of the circuits. Would
> then this Quantum stuff help? Can you enlighten me?
> Thanks,
> Kris
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 8:41:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
>
> If there was a problem with the wiring wouldn't the surge
> strip sense it? I know mine have a wiring fault warning
> light.
> I will try the personal and car items after I try the
> strips and outlets.
>
> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 6:16 PM
> > > I just bought an Entech Meter
> > that plugs into the outlets, if I just knew
> > > how to use it! The Stezterizer also tests the
> > outlets.
> >
> > Those test the outlets for *noise*. What I meant
> was
> > to check to see
> > if the neutral and hot wires are wired to the correct
> prong
> > on the
> > outlet. Sometimes they are reversed (although
> I'm not
> > clear what
> > the ES implications are if they are)
> >
> > > Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe
> I'll
> > start off slowly,
> > > by buying one strip for my bedroom and one outlet
> for
> > my fridge.
> > > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't
> need
> > the Quantum Home?
> >
> > It's possible. You could probably just invest
> that
> > money into
> > other means of improving your health (heavy metal
> > chelation, etc.),
> > which will diminish your sensitivities so that you
> don't
> > have to
> > be so concerned about noise on the powerlines.
> >
> > > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in
> your
> > pocket or the Auto
> > > Clear?
> >
> > Yes, I use both of these things. The Quantum
> > Companion is
> > helpful when outside of the home (grocery stores,
> work,
> > airports, etc.),
> > and the Auto is of course good for the car (and with
> the
> > proper adapter,
> > the Auto could be used inside the home as well)
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > [hidden email]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

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Yahoo! Groups Links

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Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

Marc, what product would you recommend starting with?
Kris

________________________________
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:14:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings

> Is there a website about these Quantums? I've been reading your emails
> and been wondering then if they would help me. I know we have some bad
> wiring in this house but without me living out of it for a while we can't
> get into reconstruction. My husband did ground properly a few of the
> circuits. Would then this Quantum stuff help? Can you enlighten me?

There *is* a website that you can read and order stuff:

http://quantumproducts.com/

Loni tried a Quantum Home and noticed nothing. A few others I know have
tried them and noticed an improvement. I've tried at least 50 EMF
protection devices, and this is the one product line that has helped
me the most with florescent lights, computers, and EMF coming
into the house from the outside.

They have a money-back guarantee. Loni has confirmed that it works. :-)

Marc

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Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

steve

Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by K

This is my exact email. As you can see I ask a lot of questions!

Hello,
I want to try your products but I have some questions.
I live in a small 1 bedroom apt. I am planning on doing the following:
Place a Quantum 7 Powerstrip in my bedroom to plug in an air cleaner and other small electronics.
Place a Quantum 3 Prong Outlet where my fridge/toaster oven is.
Place a Quantum 5 Prong Outlet where my Computer/Monitor/Priner/Modem is plugged into a Battery BackUPS/AVR and plug that BackUPS directly into the Quantum Outlet, along with an air cleaner. (And Vacuum Cleaner when I use it)
Place a Quantum 3 Prong Outlet where my TV/VCR/Modem/DVD Player is plugged into a Brickwall Line Conditioner Surge Protector and plug the Brickwall directly into the Quantum Outlet along with a floor lamp and Electric Heater.

My questions:

Does this sound like a good plan?
Is it OK to plug in battery BackUPS and Surge Suppressors into your Outlet Products?
Is it possible to use too many of your products at once?
Would I still need to use the Quantum Home if I have all of those other Quantum Products in use?
Do you plan on coming out with a Quantum Monitor product that will work with DVI Ports?
I tried downloading a trial of your software but my computer couldn't open it (I have a Mac Mini running Snow Leopard-OSX 10.6)

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, K <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: K <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 3:49 PM
> Interesting site. Wish they
> gave more solid info though.What questions did you ask
> them?
> Kris
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
>
> www.quantumproducts.com
> I can't tell you if they work as I haven't tried them yet.
> I emailed the website with questions but haven't heard back
> yet.
> Marc knows all about them
>
> --- On Tue, 3/23/10, K <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: K <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:39 PM
> > Is there a website about these
> > Quantums? I've been reading your emails and
> been
> > wondering then if they would help me. I know we
> have
> > some bad wiring in this house but without me living
> out of
> > it for a while we can't get into reconstruction.
> My
> > husband did ground properly a few of the circuits.
> Would
> > then this Quantum stuff help? Can you enlighten
> me?
> > Thanks,
> > Kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 8:41:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> >
> > If there was a problem with the wiring wouldn't the
> surge
> > strip sense it? I know mine have a wiring fault
> warning
> > light.
> > I will try the personal and car items after I try the
> > strips and outlets.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 6:16 PM
> > > > I just bought an Entech Meter
> > > that plugs into the outlets, if I just knew
> > > > how to use it! The Stezterizer also tests
> the
> > > outlets.
> > >
> > > Those test the outlets for *noise*. What I
> meant
> > was
> > > to check to see
> > > if the neutral and hot wires are wired to the
> correct
> > prong
> > > on the
> > > outlet. Sometimes they are reversed
> (although
> > I'm not
> > > clear what
> > > the ES implications are if they are)
> > >
> > > > Good to know about overdoing the Quantums.
> Maybe
> > I'll
> > > start off slowly,
> > > > by buying one strip for my bedroom and one
> outlet
> > for
> > > my fridge.
> > > > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i
> won't
> > need
> > > the Quantum Home?
> > >
> > > It's possible. You could probably just
> invest
> > that
> > > money into
> > > other means of improving your health (heavy
> metal
> > > chelation, etc.),
> > > which will diminish your sensitivities so that
> you
> > don't
> > > have to
> > > be so concerned about noise on the powerlines.
> > >
> > > > Have you tried the Quantum personal that
> fits in
> > your
> > > pocket or the Auto
> > > > Clear?
> > >
> > > Yes, I use both of these things. The
> Quantum
> > > Companion is
> > > helpful when outside of the home (grocery
> stores,
> > work,
> > > airports, etc.),
> > > and the Auto is of course good for the car (and
> with
> > the
> > > proper adapter,
> > > the Auto could be used inside the home as well)
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >    [hidden email]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >    [hidden email]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

Marc Martin

Re: Meter Readings

Administrator

In reply to this post by K

> Marc, what product would you recommend starting with?

I'd recommend you start cheap and see if you notice
anything from the technology. So if you have a Windows
PC, download the free-trial software and install it,
and see if your PC is any more tolerable.

Or, try the $30 Quantum power conditioner and plug
something into it that's been bothering you, and see
if anything improves because of that.

If these tests are successful, you could either
buy a couple more power conditioners and use them
wherever the problem areas are (TV, stereo, PC,
bedroom, fridge), or you could buy one of the more
powerful/expensive units that treats a large
area (Quantum Pro or Quantum Home). Or both --
the more you use, the stronger the effect.

Marc

Marc Martin

Re: Meter Readings

Administrator

In reply to this post by steve

> This is my exact email. As you can see I ask a lot of questions!

Yes, and I don't think the person who answers the questions at
Quantum Products is going to be able to (accurately) answer
questions regarding other companies power strips. Nor may
she appreciate the wild range of reactions that an electrosensitive
person might have to these things.

Sometimes the only way to answer your questions is to simply
try it and see what happens...

Marc

steve

Re: Meter Readings

I just wanted to know if they thought it was OK to plug a surge suppressor strip ot battery backUP into their outlet products. I assume it would be OKbut have no idea what is in their products and how they work

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 4:38 PM
> > This is my exact email. As you
> can see I ask a lot of questions!
>
> Yes, and I don't think the person who answers the questions
> at
> Quantum Products is going to be able to (accurately)
> answer
> questions regarding other companies power strips. Nor
> may
> she appreciate the wild range of reactions that an
> electrosensitive
> person might have to these things.
>
> Sometimes the only way to answer your questions is to
> simply
> try it and see what happens...
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

Marc Martin

Re: Meter Readings

Administrator

I'd do it the other way around, personally. Your Brick Wall (or a Furman)
is a better surge protector than the Quantum Power Conditioner, so that
should be plugged into the wall, and the Quantum can be plugged into that.

Marc

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:10:51 -0700 (PDT), "Steve G" <[hidden email]> said:
> I just wanted to know if they thought it was OK to plug a surge
> suppressor strip ot battery backUP into their outlet products. I assume
> it would be OK but have no idea what is in their products and how they
> work

steve

Re: Meter Readings

Actually, I was thinking of getting the Outlet form of the Quantum (not thestrip) and plugging the brickwall or Furman directly into it. Just want tomake sure that is OK. I really don't need another strip in those areas, I'm just going to put the quantum strip in my bedroom.

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 5:20 PM
> I'd do it the other way around,
> personally. Your Brick Wall (or a Furman)
> is a better surge protector than the Quantum Power
> Conditioner, so that
> should be plugged into the wall, and the Quantum can be
> plugged into that.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:10:51 -0700 (PDT), "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
> said:
> > I just wanted to know if they thought it was OK to
> plug a surge
> > suppressor strip ot battery backUP into their outlet
> products. I assume
> > it would be OK but have no idea what is in their
> products and how they
> > work
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

Marc Martin

Re: Quantum Power Conditioner

Administrator

> Actually, I was thinking of getting the Outlet form of the Quantum (not
> the strip) and plugging the brickwall or Furman directly into it. Just
> want to make sure that is OK. I really don't need another strip in those
> areas, I'm just going to put the quantum strip in my bedroom.

That should be fine... I think these Quantum outlets can handle the usual
15 amps that the housing circuits can handle.

Marc

Marc Martin

Re: Quantum products; formerly Meter Readings

Administrator

In reply to this post by evie15422

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:31:51 -0700 (PDT), "Evie" <[hidden email]> said:
> I oddly can tell the difference even having the front door open.

I'm not sure what you mean by that... what difference can you tell
with the front door open?

Marc

steve

Re: Quantum Power Conditioner

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

That's good to know. I reduced the number of products from what I had mentioned to you before. Just one strip in my bedroom, an outlet in my kitchen and 2 outlets in my living room. I think thats a good way to try it out.

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum Power Conditioner
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:21 PM
> > Actually, I was thinking of
> getting the Outlet form of the Quantum (not
> > the strip) and plugging the brickwall or Furman
> directly into it. Just
> > want to make sure that is OK. I really don't need
> another strip in those
> > areas, I'm just going to put the quantum strip in my
> bedroom.
>
> That should be fine... I think these Quantum outlets can
> handle the usual
> 15 amps that the housing circuits can handle.
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

evie15422

Re: Quantum products; formerly Meter Readings

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

Hi, Marc,

I meant I can tell the difference in the feel of the frequencies in the house with the front door open--or a window. Meaning, the Quantum does create a bubble, but even if I open a window or door, I can feel the difference. Now, if I keep the door open for light/ventilation, I *can* reset the Q Pro a little to make up for this. I assume that what I am noticing "different" is more electrosmog from outside; but even when a circuitis turned off inside the house, the Q Pro requires a movement of the setting, or I begin to get anxiety or a headache. In other words, if you have a Quantum product, it is not my experience that you can just set it and forget it. You do have to tweek the settings from time to time. I also think the door would probably not make a difference if there were an aluminum/metal screen door there (and on all the windows, too). I have not yet gotten all the window screens made (making themmyself, so everything happens at
a snails pace; esp since this is just 1 of ma-a-a-any things in the works right now.) In time, I will likely also add a screen door.

Diane

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum products; formerly Meter Readings
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 10:31 PM

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:31:51 -0700 (PDT), "Evie" <evie15422@yahoo. com> said:
> I oddly can tell the difference even having the front door open.

I'm not sure what you mean by that... what difference can you tell
with the front door open?

Marc

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

evie15422

Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by steve

Hi Steve,

You ask:
I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the Quantum Home?

(me:)
Actually it would more likely be the other way around. With the Q Home, you might not need strips and outlets.

(you:)
Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your pocket or the Auto Clear?

(me:)
I personally tried the Q Companion, but it did not work for me. I think that is because where I live is more in the country--you are either in very high emfs or in none, and in the car you are constantly travelling in and out of them. I couldn't set the Q Companion to work for that situation while in a car. It was either set too high or too low. It didn't seem to compensate for this situation. I think it would work, however, in a city setting where emfs are more constant.

My 2 cents,
Diane

--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:32 PM

I just bought an Entech Meter that plugs into the outlets, if I just knew how to use it! The Stezterizer also tests the outlets.
Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe I'll start off slowly, by buying one strip for my bedroom and one outlet for my fridge.
I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the Quantum Home?

Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your pocket or the Auto Clear?

--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:27 PM
> > How does this plan sound? Any
> opinions?
>
> Sounds like you're more than covered in the power-strip
> area... :-)
>
> Do you have an outlet tester? Might be worthwhile to
> check and
> see if any of your outlets are mis-wired. When I
> moved into my
> current house, several of the outlets were mis-wired.
> You can find a
> tester at a local hardware store, or LessEMF sells them.
>
> Also, if you're as sensitive as I used to be, you'll get a
> detox
> reaction when you start living with more than 2 Quantum
> power
> conditioners in your apartment. If that happens, just
> back
> off and allow yourself to get used them over time
> (weeks/months) .
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

steve

Re: Meter Readings

According to Margi at Quantum, the strips act more to calm the electronics themselves and prevent them from interfering with the wiring, while the Quantum Home acts to protect the home from outside interference.
Interesting about the companion. I'm definitely not in the country so maybeit would help me. Good thing they have a money back guarantee
--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Evie <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:42 PM
> Hi Steve,
>
> You ask:
> I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the
> Quantum Home?
>
> (me:)
> Actually it would more likely be the other way around.
> With the Q Home, you might not need strips and outlets.
>
> (you:)
> Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> pocket or the Auto Clear?
>
> (me:)
> I personally tried the Q Companion, but it did not work for
> me. I think that is because where I live is more in the
> country--you are either in very high emfs or in none, and in
> the car you are constantly travelling in and out of them.
> I couldn't set the Q Companion to work for that situation
> while in a car. It was either set too high or too low.
> It didn't seem to compensate for this situation. I think
> it would work, however, in a city setting where emfs are
> more constant.
>
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:32 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just bought an Entech Meter that plugs into the outlets,
> if I just knew how to use it! The Stezterizer also tests the
> outlets.
> Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe I'll start
> off slowly, by buying one strip for my bedroom and one
> outlet for my fridge.
> I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the
> Quantum Home?
>
> Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> pocket or the Auto Clear?
>
> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
> com> wrote:
>
> > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:27 PM
> > > How does this plan sound? Any
> > opinions?
> >
> > Sounds like you're more than covered in the
> power-strip
> > area... :-)
> >
> > Do you have an outlet tester? Might be worthwhile
> to
> > check and
> > see if any of your outlets are mis-wired. When I
> > moved into my
> > current house, several of the outlets were
> mis-wired.
> > You can find a
> > tester at a local hardware store, or LessEMF sells
> them.
> >
> > Also, if you're as sensitive as I used to be, you'll
> get a
> > detox
> > reaction when you start living with more than 2
> Quantum
> > power
> > conditioners in your apartment. If that happens,
> just
> > back
> > off and allow yourself to get used them over time
> > (weeks/months) .
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

BiBrun

Re: Meter Readings

Battery UPS back ups are not a good idea unless you really
need the computer to stay up during a power outage. Usually
a surge protector is enough to protect the computer... though
you should have a hard drive back up of some kind.

The magnetic field near those battery units is high, and
as the battery is being charged the power is not that clean.

I think the main reason the polarity of plug matters is
they design things so the shock hazard is less if wired right.
It can also allow a big reduction in the electric field near the
surface of the appliance if wired right, but most manufacturers don't
seem to take advantage of that.

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> According to Margi at Quantum, the strips act more to calm the electronics
> themselves and prevent them from interfering with the wiring, while the
> Quantum Home acts to protect the home from outside interference.
> Interesting about the companion. I'm definitely not in the country so maybe
> it would help me. Good thing they have a money back guarantee
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Evie <[hidden email] <evie15422%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Evie <[hidden email] <evie15422%40yahoo.com>>
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:42 PM
>
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > You ask:
> > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the
> > Quantum Home?
> >
> > (me:)
> > Actually it would more likely be the other way around.
> > With the Q Home, you might not need strips and outlets.
> >
> > (you:)
> > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> > pocket or the Auto Clear?
> >
> > (me:)
> > I personally tried the Q Companion, but it did not work for
> > me. I think that is because where I live is more in the
> > country--you are either in very high emfs or in none, and in
> > the car you are constantly travelling in and out of them.
> > I couldn't set the Q Companion to work for that situation
> > while in a car. It was either set too high or too low.
> > It didn't seem to compensate for this situation. I think
> > it would work, however, in a city setting where emfs are
> > more constant.
> >
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Steve G <[hidden email] <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Steve G <[hidden email] <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:32 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just bought an Entech Meter that plugs into the outlets,
> > if I just knew how to use it! The Stezterizer also tests the
> > outlets.
> > Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe I'll start
> > off slowly, by buying one strip for my bedroom and one
> > outlet for my fridge.
> > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the
> > Quantum Home?
> >
> > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> > pocket or the Auto Clear?
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
> > com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:27 PM
> > > > How does this plan sound? Any
> > > opinions?
> > >
> > > Sounds like you're more than covered in the
> > power-strip
> > > area... :-)
> > >
> > > Do you have an outlet tester? Might be worthwhile
> > to
> > > check and
> > > see if any of your outlets are mis-wired. When I
> > > moved into my
> > > current house, several of the outlets were
> > mis-wired.
> > > You can find a
> > > tester at a local hardware store, or LessEMF sells
> > them.
> > >
> > > Also, if you're as sensitive as I used to be, you'll
> > get a
> > > detox
> > > reaction when you start living with more than 2
> > Quantum
> > > power
> > > conditioners in your apartment. If that happens,
> > just
> > > back
> > > off and allow yourself to get used them over time
> > > (weeks/months) .
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

evie15422

Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by steve

Can't speak to the Q home, since I have the Pro, but the Pro definitely works with the wiring in the house, too. I thought the Home was thesame as the Pro tho, only for a smaller area.

Diane

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 6:14 PM

According to Margi at Quantum, the strips act more to calm the electronics themselves and prevent them from interfering with the wiring, while the Quantum Home acts to protect the home from outside interference.
Interesting about the companion. I'm definitely not in the country so maybeit would help me. Good thing they have a money back guarantee
--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

> From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:42 PM
> Hi Steve,
>
> You ask:
> I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the
> Quantum Home?
>
> (me:)
> Actually it would more likely be the other way around.
> With the Q Home, you might not need strips and outlets.
>
> (you:)
> Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> pocket or the Auto Clear?
>
> (me:)
> I personally tried the Q Companion, but it did not work for
> me. I think that is because where I live is more in the
> country--you are either in very high emfs or in none, and in
> the car you are constantly travelling in and out of them.
> I couldn't set the Q Companion to work for that situation
> while in a car. It was either set too high or too low.
> It didn't seem to compensate for this situation. I think
> it would work, however, in a city setting where emfs are
> more constant.
>
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Steve G <torch369@yahoo. com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve G <torch369@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:32 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just bought an Entech Meter that plugs into the outlets,
> if I just knew how to use it! The Stezterizer also tests the
> outlets.
> Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe I'll start
> off slowly, by buying one strip for my bedroom and one
> outlet for my fridge.
> I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need the
> Quantum Home?
>
> Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> pocket or the Auto Clear?
>
> --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
> com> wrote:
>
> > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:27 PM
> > > How does this plan sound? Any
> > opinions?
> >
> > Sounds like you're more than covered in the
> power-strip
> > area... :-)
> >
> > Do you have an outlet tester? Might be worthwhile
> to
> > check and
> > see if any of your outlets are mis-wired. When I
> > moved into my
> > current house, several of the outlets were
> mis-wired.
> > You can find a
> > tester at a local hardware store, or LessEMF sells
> them.
> >
> > Also, if you're as sensitive as I used to be, you'll
> get a
> > detox
> > reaction when you start living with more than 2
> Quantum
> > power
> > conditioners in your apartment. If that happens,
> just
> > back
> > off and allow yourself to get used them over time
> > (weeks/months) .
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Marc Martin

Re: Meter Readings

Administrator

> Can't speak to the Q home, since I have the Pro, but the Pro definitely
> works with the wiring in the house, too. I thought the Home was the same
> as the Pro tho, only for a smaller area.

Yeah, the Quantum Home is simply a weaker version of the Pro (and without
the fine-tune button on the back)

Marc

steve

Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by BiBrun

I'm thinking of replacing the BackUP with a Furman Strip. I'll then plug the Furman directly into the Quantum Outlet.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 3:31 PM
> Battery UPS back ups are not a good
> idea unless you really
> need the computer to stay up during a power outage.
> Usually
> a surge protector is enough to protect the computer...
> though
> you should have a hard drive back up of some kind.
>
> The magnetic field near those battery units is high, and
> as the battery is being charged the power is not that
> clean.
>
> I think the main reason the polarity of plug matters is
> they design things so the shock hazard is less if wired
> right.
> It can also allow a big reduction in the electric field
> near the
> surface of the appliance if wired right, but most
> manufacturers don't
> seem to take advantage of that.
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > According to Margi at Quantum, the strips act more to
> calm the electronics
> > themselves and prevent them from interfering with the
> wiring, while the
> > Quantum Home acts to protect the home from outside
> interference.
> > Interesting about the companion. I'm definitely not in
> the country so maybe
> > it would help me. Good thing they have a money back
> guarantee
> > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Evie <[hidden email]
> <evie15422%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Evie <[hidden email]
> <evie15422%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:42 PM
> >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > You ask:
> > > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't
> need the
> > > Quantum Home?
> > >
> > > (me:)
> > > Actually it would more likely be the other way
> around.
> > > With the Q Home, you might not need strips and
> outlets.
> > >
> > > (you:)
> > > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in
> your
> > > pocket or the Auto Clear?
> > >
> > > (me:)
> > > I personally tried the Q Companion, but it did
> not work for
> > > me. I think that is because where I live is
> more in the
> > > country--you are either in very high emfs or in
> none, and in
> > > the car you are constantly travelling in and out
> of them.
> > > I couldn't set the Q Companion to work for that
> situation
> > > while in a car. It was either set too high
> or too low.
> > > It didn't seem to compensate for this
> situation. I think
> > > it would work, however, in a city setting where
> emfs are
> > > more constant.
> > >
> > > My 2 cents,
> > > Diane
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Steve G <[hidden email]
> <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Steve G <[hidden email]
> <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:32 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I just bought an Entech Meter that plugs into the
> outlets,
> > > if I just knew how to use it! The Stezterizer
> also tests the
> > > outlets.
> > > Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe
> I'll start
> > > off slowly, by buying one strip for my bedroom
> and one
> > > outlet for my fridge.
> > > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't
> need the
> > > Quantum Home?
> > >
> > > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in
> your
> > > pocket or the Auto Clear?
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin
> <marc@ufoseries.
> > > com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
> com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:27 PM
> > > > > How does this plan sound? Any
> > > > opinions?
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you're more than covered in the
> > > power-strip
> > > > area... :-)
> > > >
> > > > Do you have an outlet tester? Might be
> worthwhile
> > > to
> > > > check and
> > > > see if any of your outlets are
> mis-wired. When I
> > > > moved into my
> > > > current house, several of the outlets were
> > > mis-wired.
> > > > You can find a
> > > > tester at a local hardware store, or LessEMF
> sells
> > > them.
> > > >
> > > > Also, if you're as sensitive as I used to
> be, you'll
> > > get a
> > > > detox
> > > > reaction when you start living with more
> than 2
> > > Quantum
> > > > power
> > > > conditioners in your apartment. If
> that happens,
> > > just
> > > > back
> > > > off and allow yourself to get used them over
> time
> > > > (weeks/months) .
> > > >
> > > > Marc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > eSens-fullfeatured@
> yahoogroups. com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

steve

Re: Meter Readings

In reply to this post by evie15422

Yes, its the same thing just for a smaller area. Thats the explanation she gave me. I can't think of another reason why they would also sell the strips/outlets, unless its for people who don't want to spend at least $390 for the Quantum Home.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Evie <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 4:07 PM
> Can't speak to the Q home, since I
> have the Pro, but the Pro definitely works with the wiring
> in the house, too. I thought the Home was the same as the
> Pro tho, only for a smaller area.
>
> Diane
>
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 6:14 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> According to Margi at Quantum, the strips act more to calm
> the electronics themselves and prevent them from interfering
> with the wiring, while the Quantum Home acts to protect the
> home from outside interference.
> Interesting about the companion. I'm definitely not in the
> country so maybe it would help me. Good thing they have a
> money back guarantee
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:42 PM
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > You ask:
> > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need
> the
> > Quantum Home?
> >
> > (me:)
> > Actually it would more likely be the other way
> around.
> > With the Q Home, you might not need strips and
> outlets.
> >
> > (you:)
> > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> > pocket or the Auto Clear?
> >
> > (me:)
> > I personally tried the Q Companion, but it did not
> work for
> > me. I think that is because where I live is more in
> the
> > country--you are either in very high emfs or in none,
> and in
> > the car you are constantly travelling in and out of
> them.
> > I couldn't set the Q Companion to work for that
> situation
> > while in a car. It was either set too high or too
> low.
> > It didn't seem to compensate for this situation. I
> think
> > it would work, however, in a city setting where emfs
> are
> > more constant.
> >
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Steve G <torch369@yahoo.
> com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Steve G <torch369@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:32 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just bought an Entech Meter that plugs into the
> outlets,
> > if I just knew how to use it! The Stezterizer also
> tests the
> > outlets.
> > Good to know about overdoing the Quantums. Maybe I'll
> start
> > off slowly, by buying one strip for my bedroom and
> one
> > outlet for my fridge.
> > I guess with all these strips/outlets, i won't need
> the
> > Quantum Home?
> >
> > Have you tried the Quantum personal that fits in your
> > pocket or the Auto Clear?
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
> > com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Meter Readings
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 5:27 PM
> > > > How does this plan sound? Any
> > > opinions?
> > >
> > > Sounds like you're more than covered in the
> > power-strip
> > > area... :-)
> > >
> > > Do you have an outlet tester? Might be
> worthwhile
> > to
> > > check and
> > > see if any of your outlets are mis-wired. When
> I
> > > moved into my
> > > current house, several of the outlets were
> > mis-wired.
> > > You can find a
> > > tester at a local hardware store, or LessEMF
> sells
> > them.
> > >
> > > Also, if you're as sensitive as I used to be,
> you'll
> > get a
> > > detox
> > > reaction when you start living with more than 2
> > Quantum
> > > power
> > > conditioners in your apartment. If that
> happens,
> > just
> > > back
> > > off and allow yourself to get used them over
> time
> > > (weeks/months) .
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>

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