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C.a.b. Johnson
Hi Debbie4god,

Very interesting about the metallic contrast for
MRI's.  I have had at least 6 MRI's in my life, but I opted out of
having to use contrast.  So, I may have done myself a favor by not
using it.

But on the other hand, I think that the last two brain
MRi's I had are what put me over the edge to becoming
Electrosensitive.  At the time I did the MRI's, I was already being
exposed to cell tower radiation in my apartment. and I already had
Celiac Disease and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity.  So, my body was in a
weakened state, and then to be subjected to the strong magnets and RF
from the MRI was too much.  I am afraid that I may have gotten nerve
damage in my chin because I have a gold crown near there,  I am now
having chronic pain right under my chin. 

In fact, I feel that the MRI damaged me to
 such a degree that I will be very hesitant to have another one unless it is absolutely necessary. 

The
article below states that B fields in MRI are about 20,000 Gauss and
that the (CDRH) has established a guidance level for static B fields of
4 T or about 40,000 Gauss.  That is alot for a person who is sensitive to 3.0 milliGauss.

The MRI also beams Radio
Frequencies at cells.  The article below states that for RF: "CDRH
guidance levels for patient SARs during MRI scans are comparable to the
maximum permissible exposure levels for controlled areas recommended by
ANSI/IEEE C95.1 (1992), which are 0.4 W kg–1 averaged over the whole
body, 8 W kg–1 for any 1 g of tissue, and 20 W kg–1 averaged over any
10 g of tissue in the extremities."  

I am not sure what these levels really mean, but I know that they can be too high for some individuals like me whose bodies have become sensitized to RF.  

Don't forget, MRI stands for MAGNETIC Resonance Imaging.  The article below states:

"Any
metallic object in the scan room can become a hazard if it is
forcefully attracted to the scanner. Even outside the scan room,
fringing B fields can affect the operation of cardiac pacemakers."

http://hps.org/hpspublications/articles/mri.html
Magnetic Resonance Imaging
Gary Zeman, Sc.D., CHP

Maybe
a good guideline would be that if something has a bad effect on people
wearing cardiac pacemakers or certain implants, then it is not good for
an Electrosensitive person either.

Anyone else have input on MRI's?

C. Johnson
superdrove


--- On Mon, 9/26/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: MRI
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 3:06 AM


I
do know that the contrast agent is a very potent metal from the
lanthamide family, which are magnetic metals and can be worse than
others because of their magnetism.....I did a chelation 6 hr. urine
challenge collection and lo and behold my 3rd highest metal was from 2
full spine and head MRI's I had  had 19 years before!  Just never came
out!

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Re: MRI

Geoff Robinson
Hi

I had a severe adverse reaction to a fluroquinolone antibiotic last
November.
Ciprofloxacin was prescribed by mistake for what turned out to be a sports
injury.
As a result of the extreme nerve pain induced by the medication (this was
confirmed by a senior Clinical Pharmacologist) I had an MRI scan of my
pelvis.
I had another follow up scan 3 months later and xray.  After this I
developed electrosensitivity alongside the numerous ADR's from the extremely
toxic fluroquinolone.   I was then referred for MRI and MRA on my head which
I refused as I was fairly certain that the prior MRI's as made my general
symptoms and ES worse.

10 months on the ES has gone.   Apart from bizarrely if I eat soya (eg
soya/teriyaki sauce).  Which creates 3-4 days of buzzing, electric shocks
and spasms and electrical sensations across my body and face especially when
sitting near screens/computers, holding a mobile phone in use and in
supermarkets around refrigeration cabinets and low level flurescent
lighting.

Most of my Cipro induced problems are now minimal although my previously
super fit body is no where near recovered.

I believe that the MRI's made my symptoms - especially peripheral and
central nervous system dysfunction worse.

Fluroquinolones are the harshest class of antibiotics and are described as
'chemotherapeutic'.  I understand that ES occurs for some after chemotherapy
and would add FQ's and MRI to this list.

Prior to this experience I would not have believed ES existed outside of
hypochondriacs minds.   Once experienced first hand the reality becomes very
clear.

G

On 26 September 2011 11:06, C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Debbie4god,
>
> Very interesting about the metallic contrast for
> MRI's.  I have had at least 6 MRI's in my life, but I opted out of
> having to use contrast.  So, I may have done myself a favor by not
> using it.
>
> But on the other hand, I think that the last two brain
> MRi's I had are what put me over the edge to becoming
> Electrosensitive.  At the time I did the MRI's, I was already being
> exposed to cell tower radiation in my apartment. and I already had
> Celiac Disease and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity.  So, my body was in a
> weakened state, and then to be subjected to the strong magnets and RF
> from the MRI was too much.  I am afraid that I may have gotten nerve
> damage in my chin because I have a gold crown near there,  I am now
> having chronic pain right under my chin.
>
> In fact, I feel that the MRI damaged me to
> such a degree that I will be very hesitant to have another one unless it is
> absolutely necessary.
>
> The
> article below states that B fields in MRI are about 20,000 Gauss and
> that the (CDRH) has established a guidance level for static B fields of
> 4 T or about 40,000 Gauss.  That is alot for a person who is sensitive to
> 3.0 milliGauss.
>
> The MRI also beams Radio
> Frequencies at cells.  The article below states that for RF: "CDRH
> guidance levels for patient SARs during MRI scans are comparable to the
> maximum permissible exposure levels for controlled areas recommended by
> ANSI/IEEE C95.1 (1992), which are 0.4 W kg–1 averaged over the whole
> body, 8 W kg–1 for any 1 g of tissue, and 20 W kg–1 averaged over any
> 10 g of tissue in the extremities."
>
> I am not sure what these levels really mean, but I know that they can be
> too high for some individuals like me whose bodies have become sensitized to
> RF.
>
> Don't forget, MRI stands for MAGNETIC Resonance Imaging.  The article below
> states:
>
> "Any
> metallic object in the scan room can become a hazard if it is
> forcefully attracted to the scanner. Even outside the scan room,
> fringing B fields can affect the operation of cardiac pacemakers."
>
> http://hps.org/hpspublications/articles/mri.html
> Magnetic Resonance Imaging
> Gary Zeman, Sc.D., CHP
>
> Maybe
> a good guideline would be that if something has a bad effect on people
> wearing cardiac pacemakers or certain implants, then it is not good for
> an Electrosensitive person either.
>
> Anyone else have input on MRI's?
>
> C. Johnson
> superdrove
>
> --- On Mon, 9/26/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: MRI
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 3:06 AM
>
> I
> do know that the contrast agent is a very potent metal from the
> lanthamide family, which are magnetic metals and can be worse than
> others because of their magnetism.....I did a chelation 6 hr. urine
> challenge collection and lo and behold my 3rd highest metal was from 2
> full spine and head MRI's I had  had 19 years before!  Just never came
> out!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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RE: MRI

Elizabeth thode

Hi,
Maybe not so bizarre if you take into consideration that Soy has an affinity for Aluminum.
New research into Aluminum points at Aluminum being even more toxic then Mercury.
 Lizzie
New Revelation - The Neurotoxin Far Worse than ... - Articles - Mercola

articles.mercola.com/.../could-this-be-the-most-dangerous-aspect-of-...Cached-

> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:41:05 +0100
> Subject: Re: [eSens] MRI
>
> Hi
>
> I had a severe adverse reaction to a fluroquinolone antibiotic last
> November.
> Ciprofloxacin was prescribed by mistake for what turned out to be a sports
> injury.
> As a result of the extreme nerve pain induced by the medication (this was
> confirmed by a senior Clinical Pharmacologist) I had an MRI scan of my
> pelvis.
> I had another follow up scan 3 months later and xray. After this I
> developed electrosensitivity alongside the numerous ADR's from the extremely
> toxic fluroquinolone. I was then referred for MRI and MRA on my head which
> I refused as I was fairly certain that the prior MRI's as made my general
> symptoms and ES worse.
>
> 10 months on the ES has gone. Apart from bizarrely if I eat soya (eg
> soya/teriyaki sauce). Which creates 3-4 days of buzzing, electric shocks
> and spasms and electrical sensations across my body and face especially when
> sitting near screens/computers, holding a mobile phone in use and in
> supermarkets around refrigeration cabinets and low level flurescent
> lighting.
>
> Most of my Cipro induced problems are now minimal although my previously
> super fit body is no where near recovered.
>
> I believe that the MRI's made my symptoms - especially peripheral and
> central nervous system dysfunction worse.
>
> Fluroquinolones are the harshest class of antibiotics and are described as
> 'chemotherapeutic'. I understand that ES occurs for some after chemotherapy
> and would add FQ's and MRI to this list.
>
> Prior to this experience I would not have believed ES existed outside of
> hypochondriacs minds. Once experienced first hand the reality becomes very
> clear.
>
> G
>
> On 26 September 2011 11:06, C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Debbie4god,
> >
> > Very interesting about the metallic contrast for
> > MRI's. I have had at least 6 MRI's in my life, but I opted out of
> > having to use contrast. So, I may have done myself a favor by not
> > using it.
> >
> > But on the other hand, I think that the last two brain
> > MRi's I had are what put me over the edge to becoming
> > Electrosensitive. At the time I did the MRI's, I was already being
> > exposed to cell tower radiation in my apartment. and I already had
> > Celiac Disease and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. So, my body was in a
> > weakened state, and then to be subjected to the strong magnets and RF
> > from the MRI was too much. I am afraid that I may have gotten nerve
> > damage in my chin because I have a gold crown near there, I am now
> > having chronic pain right under my chin.
> >
> > In fact, I feel that the MRI damaged me to
> > such a degree that I will be very hesitant to have another one unless it is
> > absolutely necessary.
> >
> > The
> > article below states that B fields in MRI are about 20,000 Gauss and
> > that the (CDRH) has established a guidance level for static B fields of
> > 4 T or about 40,000 Gauss. That is alot for a person who is sensitive to
> > 3.0 milliGauss.
> >
> > The MRI also beams Radio
> > Frequencies at cells. The article below states that for RF: "CDRH
> > guidance levels for patient SARs during MRI scans are comparable to the
> > maximum permissible exposure levels for controlled areas recommended by
> > ANSI/IEEE C95.1 (1992), which are 0.4 W kg–1 averaged over the whole
> > body, 8 W kg–1 for any 1 g of tissue, and 20 W kg–1 averaged over any
> > 10 g of tissue in the extremities."
> >
> > I am not sure what these levels really mean, but I know that they can be
> > too high for some individuals like me whose bodies have become sensitized to
> > RF.
> >
> > Don't forget, MRI stands for MAGNETIC Resonance Imaging. The article below
> > states:
> >
> > "Any
> > metallic object in the scan room can become a hazard if it is
> > forcefully attracted to the scanner. Even outside the scan room,
> > fringing B fields can affect the operation of cardiac pacemakers."
> >
> > http://hps.org/hpspublications/articles/mri.html
> > Magnetic Resonance Imaging
> > Gary Zeman, Sc.D., CHP
> >
> > Maybe
> > a good guideline would be that if something has a bad effect on people
> > wearing cardiac pacemakers or certain implants, then it is not good for
> > an Electrosensitive person either.
> >
> > Anyone else have input on MRI's?
> >
> > C. Johnson
> > superdrove
> >
> > --- On Mon, 9/26/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: MRI
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 3:06 AM
> >
> > I
> > do know that the contrast agent is a very potent metal from the
> > lanthamide family, which are magnetic metals and can be worse than
> > others because of their magnetism.....I did a chelation 6 hr. urine
> > challenge collection and lo and behold my 3rd highest metal was from 2
> > full spine and head MRI's I had had 19 years before! Just never came
> > out!
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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RE: MRI

Marc Martin
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> Maybe not so bizarre if you take into consideration that Soy has an affinity for Aluminum.

Doesn't soy suppress the thyroid gland as well?  

Marc
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Re: MRI

Geoff Robinson
Interesting.

Re thyroid - I think using soy as a condiment is ok for majority of folks.
Its if you stuff yrself with it - eg vegan who devours tofu/soya milk.

Other theory re soya is the glutamates which mess with nervous system if
there is neurotoxity eg from pharmaceuticals that cross blood brain barrier
interfering with neurochemistry, or from environmental toxicities.



On 26 September 2011 17:58, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> > Maybe not so bizarre if you take into consideration that Soy has an
> affinity for Aluminum.
>
> Doesn't soy suppress the thyroid gland as well?
>
> Marc
>
>  
>


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Elizabeth thode
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Yup, soy does that too. And soy contaiins properties which mimic estrogen, so it screws up the body that way too....
now organic fermented soy is a different story. As a rule, I stay away from soy and all the names it hides behind.
Lizzie
 



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From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:58:07 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] MRI


 



> Maybe not so bizarre if you take into consideration that Soy has an affinity for Aluminum.

Doesn't soy suppress the thyroid gland as well?

Marc



     

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April R
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oh man, I had an MRI done of my brain.  It was easily the most  
painful/icky thing I've ever been exposed to!  I could feel it penetrating  the layers
of my brain and at the very end the resonance thing turned and it  felt like
it cut my brain in half!  It took ages to recover from  that.  I'm never
having another one done ever again unless my doctor thinks  I have brain
cancer or something.  Unless it's really really  necessary, don't do it!
 
-Glitter
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2011 8:36:48 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 

I don't know if this subject has been discussed previously on the  list.  

Anyone on the list have any opinion about whether it is  advisable to get
an MRI?

Are MRI's of certain parts of the body more  risky than other parts?

I have 3 gold crowns and I have heavy metals in  my body.  Would a brain
MRI be bad?

C.  Johnson
Superdrove

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onceagain
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I had a bad reaction to levaquin another fluroquinolone antibiotic about 3 years ago. It left all the tendons in my legs so tight and painful that I could barely walk. I did recover in about 1.5-2 months though with no apparent problems in my legs. Then I got ES sensitive late last year. I think the levaquin was related, but since the result was so delayed it is hard to tell. None of my present symptoms are similar to what it caused to me at the time either, so I can't make an association that way either. I just know from looking into it that those antibiotics are highly toxic to the nervous system.


--- In [hidden email], Geoff Robinson <geoffreyjohnrobinson@...> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I had a severe adverse reaction to a fluroquinolone antibiotic last
> November.
> Ciprofloxacin was prescribed by mistake for what turned out to be a sports
> injury.
> As a result of the extreme nerve pain induced by the medication (this was
> confirmed by a senior Clinical Pharmacologist) I had an MRI scan of my
> pelvis.
> I had another follow up scan 3 months later and xray.  After this I
> developed electrosensitivity alongside the numerous ADR's from the extremely
> toxic fluroquinolone.   I was then referred for MRI and MRA on my head which
> I refused as I was fairly certain that the prior MRI's as made my general
> symptoms and ES worse.
>
> 10 months on the ES has gone.   Apart from bizarrely if I eat soya (eg
> soya/teriyaki sauce).  Which creates 3-4 days of buzzing, electric shocks
> and spasms and electrical sensations across my body and face especially when
> sitting near screens/computers, holding a mobile phone in use and in
> supermarkets around refrigeration cabinets and low level flurescent
> lighting.
>
> Most of my Cipro induced problems are now minimal although my previously
> super fit body is no where near recovered.
>
> I believe that the MRI's made my symptoms - especially peripheral and
> central nervous system dysfunction worse.
>
> Fluroquinolones are the harshest class of antibiotics and are described as
> 'chemotherapeutic'.  I understand that ES occurs for some after chemotherapy
> and would add FQ's and MRI to this list.
>
> Prior to this experience I would not have believed ES existed outside of
> hypochondriacs minds.   Once experienced first hand the reality becomes very
> clear.
>
> G
>
> On 26 September 2011 11:06, C.a.b. Johnson <superdrove@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Debbie4god,
> >
> > Very interesting about the metallic contrast for
> > MRI's.  I have had at least 6 MRI's in my life, but I opted out of
> > having to use contrast.  So, I may have done myself a favor by not
> > using it.
> >
> > But on the other hand, I think that the last two brain
> > MRi's I had are what put me over the edge to becoming
> > Electrosensitive.  At the time I did the MRI's, I was already being
> > exposed to cell tower radiation in my apartment. and I already had
> > Celiac Disease and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity.  So, my body was in a
> > weakened state, and then to be subjected to the strong magnets and RF
> > from the MRI was too much.  I am afraid that I may have gotten nerve
> > damage in my chin because I have a gold crown near there,  I am now
> > having chronic pain right under my chin.
> >
> > In fact, I feel that the MRI damaged me to
> > such a degree that I will be very hesitant to have another one unless it is
> > absolutely necessary.
> >
> > The
> > article below states that B fields in MRI are about 20,000 Gauss and
> > that the (CDRH) has established a guidance level for static B fields of
> > 4 T or about 40,000 Gauss.  That is alot for a person who is sensitive to
> > 3.0 milliGauss.
> >
> > The MRI also beams Radio
> > Frequencies at cells.  The article below states that for RF: "CDRH
> > guidance levels for patient SARs during MRI scans are comparable to the
> > maximum permissible exposure levels for controlled areas recommended by
> > ANSI/IEEE C95.1 (1992), which are 0.4 W kg–1 averaged over the whole
> > body, 8 W kg–1 for any 1 g of tissue, and 20 W kg–1 averaged over any
> > 10 g of tissue in the extremities."
> >
> > I am not sure what these levels really mean, but I know that they can be
> > too high for some individuals like me whose bodies have become sensitized to
> > RF.
> >
> > Don't forget, MRI stands for MAGNETIC Resonance Imaging.  The article below
> > states:
> >
> > "Any
> > metallic object in the scan room can become a hazard if it is
> > forcefully attracted to the scanner. Even outside the scan room,
> > fringing B fields can affect the operation of cardiac pacemakers."
> >
> > http://hps.org/hpspublications/articles/mri.html
> > Magnetic Resonance Imaging
> > Gary Zeman, Sc.D., CHP
> >
> > Maybe
> > a good guideline would be that if something has a bad effect on people
> > wearing cardiac pacemakers or certain implants, then it is not good for
> > an Electrosensitive person either.
> >
> > Anyone else have input on MRI's?
> >
> > C. Johnson
> > superdrove
> >
> > --- On Mon, 9/26/11, debbie4god39@... <debbie4god39@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: debbie4god39@... <debbie4god39@...>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: MRI
> > To: superdrove@...
> > Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 3:06 AM
> >
> > I
> > do know that the contrast agent is a very potent metal from the
> > lanthamide family, which are magnetic metals and can be worse than
> > others because of their magnetism.....I did a chelation 6 hr. urine
> > challenge collection and lo and behold my 3rd highest metal was from 2
> > full spine and head MRI's I had  had 19 years before!  Just never came
> > out!
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>