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MCS - more accurate term is MES (brief excerpts)

Minni
Subject: Multiple Environmental Sensitivity
Excerpts from online PDF book "black on white" linked to the FEB.SE
site:

Page 46

"Accordingly, we have those who are hypersensitive to chemicals in
the USA who primarily consider themselves to be hypersensitive to
chemicals...
but in part, they are also hypersensitive to electricity...
We have those who are hypersensitive to electricity in Sweden and
Germany who consider themselves to be hypersensitive to electricity,
but at times they are also hypersensitive to chemicals.
Similar symptoms - but different names?"

Page 48

It seems to me that the activators or so-called triggers can be
chemicals or electromagnetic fields. Perhaps one should instead make
a general referral to "environmental hypersensitivity" (MES, Multiple
Environmental Sensitivity, as suggested by the German engineer
Gerhard Nieman, who works for a German association for the electro-
hypersensitive in Munich). Those who are afflicated name their
hypersensitivity after the triggering factor. If it is electricity,
one becomes "electro-hypersensitive". If it is chemicals, one
becomes "chemically hypersensitive". If it is mercury, one develops
amalgam illness and so on.
But once one has "opened the doorway" to hypersensitivity (become
sensitized), the boundaries seem to be erased and a general
hypersensitivity sets in. It can then at times be difficult to
distinguish whether it is a chemical or an electromagnetic field that
causes the problem; for example...

Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog
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Re: MCS - more accurate term is MES (brief excerpts)

Marc Martin
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> It seems to me that the activators or so-called triggers can be
> chemicals or electromagnetic fields. Perhaps one should instead make
> a general referral to "environmental hypersensitivity"

There is already a term used in the USA called "environmental illness",
which means the same thing.

Marc

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Re: MCS - more accurate term is MES (brief excerpts)

Minni
--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > It seems to me that the activators or so-called triggers can be
> > chemicals or electromagnetic fields. Perhaps one should instead
make
> > a general referral to "environmental hypersensitivity"
>
> There is already a term used in the USA called "environmental
illness",
> which means the same thing.
>
> Marc

But the following website classifies all of them separately:

http://www.ctaz.com/~bhima/

Bottom line: The semantic verbal gymnastics (especially
classifications & sub-classifications) that the English language
specializes in creates for alot of obfuscation.

An example is Soma and Neurontin, both of which have practically the
same effects on me - btw, Neurontin sorta relieves EMF symptoms - so
why the need for classifications & fancy words?
The American Indian way would be to simplify:
"See these herbs? They both relieve pain and sleeplessness in a
similar way.

Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog
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Re: MCS - more accurate term is MES (brief excerpts)

randolf_everywhere-3
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Hello,

on which url is this book?

Randolf Weinand


--- In [hidden email], "minnimall" <minnimall@y...> wrote:

> Subject: Multiple Environmental Sensitivity
> Excerpts from online PDF book "black on white" linked to the FEB.SE
> site:
>
> Page 46
>
> "Accordingly, we have those who are hypersensitive to chemicals in
> the USA who primarily consider themselves to be hypersensitive to
> chemicals...
> but in part, they are also hypersensitive to electricity...
> We have those who are hypersensitive to electricity in Sweden and
> Germany who consider themselves to be hypersensitive to electricity,
> but at times they are also hypersensitive to chemicals.
> Similar symptoms - but different names?"
>
> Page 48
>
> It seems to me that the activators or so-called triggers can be
> chemicals or electromagnetic fields. Perhaps one should instead make
> a general referral to "environmental hypersensitivity" (MES, Multiple
> Environmental Sensitivity, as suggested by the German engineer
> Gerhard Nieman, who works for a German association for the electro-
> hypersensitive in Munich). Those who are afflicated name their
> hypersensitivity after the triggering factor. If it is electricity,
> one becomes "electro-hypersensitive". If it is chemicals, one
> becomes "chemically hypersensitive". If it is mercury, one develops
> amalgam illness and so on.
> But once one has "opened the doorway" to hypersensitivity (become
> sensitized), the boundaries seem to be erased and a general
> hypersensitivity sets in. It can then at times be difficult to
> distinguish whether it is a chemical or an electromagnetic field that
> causes the problem; for example...

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Re: MCS - more accurate term is MES (brief excerpts)

charles-4
Hello Randolf Weinand,

at: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina114e.html
you may find:

Schwarz auf Weiss. a short german summary.

Blackonwhite , the complete book in english as PDF file.


Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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----- Original Message -----
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> Hello,
>
> on which url is this book?
>
> Randolf Weinand
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "minnimall" <minnimall@y...> wrote:
> > Subject: Multiple Environmental Sensitivity
> > Excerpts from online PDF book "black on white" linked to the FEB.SE
> > site:
> >
> > Page 46
> >
> > "Accordingly, we have those who are hypersensitive to chemicals in
> > the USA who primarily consider themselves to be hypersensitive to
> > chemicals...
> > but in part, they are also hypersensitive to electricity...
> > We have those who are hypersensitive to electricity in Sweden and
> > Germany who consider themselves to be hypersensitive to electricity,
> > but at times they are also hypersensitive to chemicals.
> > Similar symptoms - but different names?"
> >
> > Page 48
> >
> > It seems to me that the activators or so-called triggers can be
> > chemicals or electromagnetic fields. Perhaps one should instead make
> > a general referral to "environmental hypersensitivity" (MES, Multiple
> > Environmental Sensitivity, as suggested by the German engineer
> > Gerhard Nieman, who works for a German association for the electro-
> > hypersensitive in Munich). Those who are afflicated name their
> > hypersensitivity after the triggering factor. If it is electricity,
> > one becomes "electro-hypersensitive". If it is chemicals, one
> > becomes "chemically hypersensitive". If it is mercury, one develops
> > amalgam illness and so on.
> > But once one has "opened the doorway" to hypersensitivity (become
> > sensitized), the boundaries seem to be erased and a general
> > hypersensitivity sets in. It can then at times be difficult to
> > distinguish whether it is a chemical or an electromagnetic field that
> > causes the problem; for example...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: MCS - more accurate term is MES (brief excerpts)

Minni
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--- In [hidden email], "randolf_everywhere" <walkingthe@a...>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on which url is this book?
>
> Randolf Weinand
>
>

The direct PDF link is below.
You need Adobe Acrobat to open it:

http://www.feb.se/feb/blackonwhite-complete-book.pdf

Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog