Liver and bile issues

hi evervody,

I seemed to develop liver problemes and a pain in the right side just ubder
the ribs. My doctoer ran some tests and could not find anything realy wrong.
Did any body here had somthing like this happen to him or her? can this be
EHS related?

Hillel

> I seemed to develop liver problemes and a pain in the right side just
> under the ribs. My doctoer ran some tests and could not find anything
> really wrong. Did any body here had somthing like this happen to him
> or her? can this be EHS related?

Medical tests aren't always that useful. I remember when a doctor
couldn't find anything wrong with my liver, so I switched to a
naturapathic doctor (ND) who ran some new tests which showed that
my liver was having a LOT of problems!

And yes, this certainly could all be related to EHS, just as liver
problems can lead to toxicities, chronic fatigue, chemical
sensitivities, etc.

A lot of people suggest doing "liver cleanses" or "liver flushes",
which involve drinking epsom salts, citrus juice, and olive oil.
I find these rather harsh, though. Drinking apple cider vinegar
(or regular apple juice) may help dissolve something that's in your
liver (gallstones, liver stones, etc.) and help relieve the pain.

Marc

Under your liver is the gall bladder which of course everyone has gall
stones. It is very easy and inexpensive to do a gall bladder flush. I
recommend everyone doing one twice a year.
I believe the ES can be caused by exposure to chemicals like
pesticides, plastic fumes, etc. and the liver has a big part in
removing them from our system.
Now, the important part (to me) is to get your colon cleansed before
and after so the stones don't decide to stay around. There are a lot of
parasites, bad bacteria, etc. in and around the stones.
There are numerous protocols for taking care of the bacteria/parasites
in addition to the stone flush. In which ever one you choose, please do
at least 4 days of Apple juice with Ortho Phos drops or some other
stone softener so when you do the Oil they will be soft as putty and
you won't get any of them stuck in your bile ducts.
You should get at least 25-50 stones the size of peas all the way up to
grapes.
If you need a reference for a recipe, you can get many on the web or on
this esens list.
all my best,
Andrew
On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Hillel Wahrman wrote:


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Well, besides the "toxic connection" that Andrew already mentioned,
regarding liver and ES I have in mind also the Epstein Barr virus.
Surprisingly many of us had reported being tested positive = virus active
to some extent... And that virus ruins liver... I had a very good experience
with homeopathic treatment against EBV (I slept all the day due to
homeopathic "drugs"), but I believe once you get a tendency to develop EBV,
it becomes more or less chronic, like with Herpes and some other viruses.

Drasko


> hi evervody,
>
> I seemed to develop liver problemes and a pain in the right side just
ubder
> the ribs. My doctoer ran some tests and could not find anything realy
wrong.

Liver cleansing according to the Hulda Clark method (takes 24 hours) works
fine.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 09:48
Subject: Re: [eSens] Liver and bile issues


>
> Well, besides the "toxic connection" that Andrew already mentioned,
> regarding liver and ES I have in mind also the Epstein Barr virus.
> Surprisingly many of us had reported being tested positive = virus active
> to some extent... And that virus ruins liver... I had a very good
experience
> with homeopathic treatment against EBV (I slept all the day due to
> homeopathic "drugs"), but I believe once you get a tendency to develop
EBV,
> it becomes more or less chronic, like with Herpes and some other viruses.
>
> Drasko

I too have been clinically diagnosed with full blown EBV and have been
taking Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver from my own generator to kill
it. I don't have the deep down days any more. My energy is more level
and I actually have days where I feel joy.
Of course, I am doing tons of other therapeutic things in addition to
the silver which I believe also contributes to my wellbeing.
All my best to you and your search,
Andrew

On Jul 15, 2005, at 3:48 AM, Drasko Cvijovic wrote:


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