Light at the end of the tunnel.

Hi Evie and All

What I used for treatment can be done two ways. The first is with a
PR who will do all of the work for his fee. I started out that way
and decided I could not afford the cost. How ever, along the way I
found out that all PR's are not created equal. I went to see three
different NAET PR's and each one had their own technique for doing
the treatment. The second PR was so different than the first one I
made him use the technique the first one had used because it seemed
to work. They all had taken the same training so why did each one
do it differently? Later on I found the first one did not follow
the protocol, either, and I had to do some re-clearing of his first
work!

The other method is to have the courage to learn to do it your
self. It is best to have had some treatments so you have some idea
of what this type of thing is all about. There are various courses
you could attend for training, if convenient. You can buy all the
course material from Allergy Antidotes and learn to do it on your
own. The web site is: http://www.allergyantidotes.com/ the course
material is less than $100.00. As you learn how to do it you will
have to get some other things for treatment but the cost should be
far less than going to a PR. Did I use this work for all of my
treatments? No, I did not. I had already been treating myself for
several years before I found this work. I did blend some of this
work into what I was already doing. Others had missed some items in
these books, and the inclusion made a difference for me.

All of the treatments are based on Muscle Testing. This is
something you must learn to do. A couple web sites are:
http://www.goodhealthinfo.net/herbalists/muscle_testing.htm and
http://johreiki.net/ARTICLES/muscle-testing.php . There are at
lease a half dozed ways of doing MT so anyone should be able to get
one of the methods to work.

It does take a special type of person to explore the do it yourself
option but for me it has been a wonderful journey. It is a lot of
work!!!

Bill E  

> You can buy all the
> course material from Allergy Antidotes and learn to do it on your
> own. The web site is: http://www.allergyantidotes.com/ the course
> material is less than $100.00. As you learn how to do it you will
> have to get some other things for treatment but the cost should be
> far less than going to a PR.

Thanks for the link to that site! I've never seen this site
before, and I see that in the list of practitioners, there
is someone who is a 10-minute drive from where I live.

Marc

> Thanks for the link to that site! I've never seen this site
> before, and I see that in the list of practitioners, there
> is someone who is a 10-minute drive from where I live.

I did some more searching, and see that there is an NMT
practitioner who is also a 10-minute drive from where
I live. It's been my impression that NMT may be
better or faster than NAET. Either way, I think
it's about time to try one of these (I've known about
NAET treatments for 5 years, and still have not tried
it!)

Marc

"Methods" that leave the ego-mind out of the equasion do work. I muscle tested most of the way out of the web. Developing intuition, listening to heart or true self, will find you your true self (I AM). Will bring you the things that help you flush out what you need to flush out and release what youneed to release.
   
The tunnel is really a bridge. Building a bridge to your heart.
   
Love
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Thanks, Bill!

I appreciate the info! I will check into this. I am a person who is well versed in helping myself, so I think I can do it ok! It would help if I could have a practitioner to go to a couple times, but I looked up NAET practitioners in my area and there are not any here. :( The closest is about 150 miles away.

You say you added other therapies to the muscle testing/NAET therapy. What did you keep as your protocol in the end, if this isn't too difficult to share? (It would be difficult for me to share my entire regimen as I do so many different things and not all, all the time.) My chiro does muscle testing, but I am guessing that the NAET muscle testing is different from what Marc said in his post.

Thanks again. I greatly appreciate your sharing.
Diane aka Evie
Ehrhart2h <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Evie and All

What I used for treatment can be done two ways. The first is with a
PR who will do all of the work for his fee. I started out that way
and decided I could not afford the cost. How ever, along the way I
found out that all PR's are not created equal. I went to see three
different NAET PR's and each one had their own technique for doing
the treatment. The second PR was so different than the first one I
made him use the technique the first one had used because it seemed
to work. They all had taken the same training so why did each one
do it differently? Later on I found the first one did not follow
the protocol, either, and I had to do some re-clearing of his first
work!

The other method is to have the courage to learn to do it your
self. It is best to have had some treatments so you have some idea
of what this type of thing is all about. There are various courses
you could attend for training, if convenient. You can buy all the
course material from Allergy Antidotes and learn to do it on your
own. The web site is: http://www.allergyantidotes.com/ the course
material is less than $100.00. As you learn how to do it you will
have to get some other things for treatment but the cost should be
far less than going to a PR. Did I use this work for all of my
treatments? No, I did not. I had already been treating myself for
several years before I found this work. I did blend some of this
work into what I was already doing. Others had missed some items in
these books, and the inclusion made a difference for me.

All of the treatments are based on Muscle Testing. This is
something you must learn to do. A couple web sites are:
http://www.goodhealthinfo.net/herbalists/muscle_testing.htm and
http://johreiki.net/ARTICLES/muscle-testing.php . There are at
lease a half dozed ways of doing MT so anyone should be able to get
one of the methods to work.

It does take a special type of person to explore the do it yourself
option but for me it has been a wonderful journey. It is a lot of
work!!!

Bill E





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> My chiro does muscle testing, but I am guessing that the NAET
> muscle testing is different from what Marc said in his post.

NAET is primarily an allergy elimination technique. Note that
NAET does have it's detractors. Years ago, I did not do NAET
because my current practitioner warned me that although NAET
can eliminate hypersensitive reactions to things, the
damage is still occurring. Also, I was reading the NMT
discussion forums, and I found a message from someone who
had been made *more* sensitive from NAET, rather than less.
The response was that NAET was a suppressive therapy which
can mess people up. NMT on the other hand is supposed to
etrain the autonomic nervous system to correctly identify
things which should warrant an immune response and those
which should not.

Speaking of NMT, it's now been 3 days since my first NMT session.
There has been no miraculous elimination of any of my allergies,
but it is interesting that I am "spontaneously" detoxing.
That is, the symptoms that I would normally get from taking
chelation supplements are now occurring, but I'm not taking
any chelation supplements! So I'm now getting strong-smelling
urine, scalp eruptions, thirst, metallic taste, etc. Nothing
too terrible, but certainly out of the ordinary. I
assume that this is due to the NMT, but I guess it could be
some sort of coincidence, although I don't know what else
could be causing this. Also, my skin seems to be better
hydrated than usual -- that is, the extra water I'm drinking
seems to actually be hydrating me, when in the past it would
just "go through me" and not provide much noticeable hydration.

Marc

Hi, Marc,
   
Very interesting indeed!!! I see that I got the NAET and NMT mixed up--it is the NMT practitioner that was not in my area. Sounds very intriguing;now I cannot wait to see my chiro to ask him about it! lol You mentionedthat it was a "weird" treatment in another post. What did you mean? Whatdo they do?  
   
Thanks for keeping us updated on your progress. This is wonderful if it is actually creating detoxing!
   
Good health,
Diane
 

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> My chiro does muscle testing, but I am guessing that the NAET
> muscle testing is different from what Marc said in his post.

NAET is primarily an allergy elimination technique. Note that
NAET does have it's detractors. Years ago, I did not do NAET
because my current practitioner warned me that although NAET
can eliminate hypersensitive reactions to things, the
damage is still occurring. Also, I was reading the NMT
discussion forums, and I found a message from someone who
had been made *more* sensitive from NAET, rather than less.
The response was that NAET was a suppressive therapy which
can mess people up. NMT on the other hand is supposed to
etrain the autonomic nervous system to correctly identify
things which should warrant an immune response and those
which should not.

Speaking of NMT, it's now been 3 days since my first NMT session.
There has been no miraculous elimination of any of my allergies,
but it is interesting that I am "spontaneously" detoxing.
That is, the symptoms that I would normally get from taking
chelation supplements are now occurring, but I'm not taking
any chelation supplements! So I'm now getting strong-smelling
urine, scalp eruptions, thirst, metallic taste, etc. Nothing
too terrible, but certainly out of the ordinary. I
assume that this is due to the NMT, but I guess it could be
some sort of coincidence, although I don't know what else
could be causing this. Also, my skin seems to be better
hydrated than usual -- that is, the extra water I'm drinking
seems to actually be hydrating me, when in the past it would
just "go through me" and not provide much noticeable hydration.

Marc


         

 
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> Very interesting indeed!!! I see that I got the NAET and NMT mixed up--
> it is the NMT practitioner that was not in my area.

Not surprising. NAET was introduced in 1983. NMT was introduced
in 2002. I seem to have plenty of practitioners to choose from
here, but I live where there is a *lot* of alternative medicine.

> You mentioned that it was a "weird" treatment in another post. What
> did you mean? What do they do?

Well, that's just it -- to the casual observer, they don't appear
to do *anything*. They had a bunch of forms/questionnaires (in
a huge 3-ring binder) they go through, they do muscle testing
to get the answers, the answers direct them to what areas need
fixing, then they make "corrective statements" (rather
incomprehensible ones), then tap your spine while you take a deep
breath in/out, and that's it! Skeptics would have a great time
making fun of this, and I would be reluctant to recommend this
to friends just because it seems so ridiculous. However,
it certainly has its share of good testimonials, and the
practitioners who do this all seem to have abandoned NAET
in favor of this. It's my understanding that in order
to treat allergies, NAET requires multiple visits, vials
with samples of the allergens, and the patient must avoid
the allergen for the day after the treatment. With NMT,
they treated *all* of my allergies (about 90 of them) on
the first appointment, with no vials, and no avoidance
after the appointment.

But only time will tell if it actually works... from everything
I've read, I'm going to have to give it at least a few months
and at least 4 treatments...

Marc

Thanks, Marc!
   
This is interesting as I had a chiro several years ago do something similar with me but I got so ill afterwards I never returned. lol I think it was in 2001 or 2002 so it was not likely the same thing, but sounds like it was very similar. I was so ill I could barely drive home--weak, trembling,and in a sort of "shock", like you said! It affected me for 12 or more days later. The chiro was very upset, apologized to me, and said he should have gone slower but he had no idea I was so fragile (tho I told him I was only able to be up and about out of bed around 3 hours at the time.) I should give him a call and see what he was using on me! I did not realize whatdetoxing was at the time or what symptoms to expect from it, but looking back, I think now that I was detoxing after this treatment, too! I had terrific brainfog, chills, and sweats as I recall.
 
Thanks for the info. Keep us up on your progress and reactions to this!
My best to you,
Diane
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Very interesting indeed!!! I see that I got the NAET and NMT mixed up--
> it is the NMT practitioner that was not in my area.

Not surprising. NAET was introduced in 1983. NMT was introduced
in 2002. I seem to have plenty of practitioners to choose from
here, but I live where there is a *lot* of alternative medicine.

> You mentioned that it was a "weird" treatment in another post. What
> did you mean? What do they do?

Well, that's just it -- to the casual observer, they don't appear
to do *anything*. They had a bunch of forms/questionnaires (in
a huge 3-ring binder) they go through, they do muscle testing
to get the answers, the answers direct them to what areas need
fixing, then they make "corrective statements" (rather
incomprehensible ones), then tap your spine while you take a deep
breath in/out, and that's it! Skeptics would have a great time
making fun of this, and I would be reluctant to recommend this
to friends just because it seems so ridiculous. However,
it certainly has its share of good testimonials, and the
practitioners who do this all seem to have abandoned NAET
in favor of this. It's my understanding that in order
to treat allergies, NAET requires multiple visits, vials
with samples of the allergens, and the patient must avoid
the allergen for the day after the treatment. With NMT,
they treated *all* of my allergies (about 90 of them) on
the first appointment, with no vials, and no avoidance
after the appointment.

But only time will tell if it actually works... from everything
I've read, I'm going to have to give it at least a few months
and at least 4 treatments...

Marc


         

 
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> This is interesting as I had a chiro several years ago do something
> similar with me but I got so ill afterwards I never returned. lol I
> think it was in 2001 or 2002 so it was not likely the same thing, but
> sounds like it was very similar.

There have actually been several similar sorts of techniques developed
between NAET and NMT. For example, JMT was what my practitioner was
using immediately prior to NMT, but there has also been TBM, NET, JMT,
and BEST used by other practitioners.

But yes, it sounds like you had a big detox from whatever was done to
you. I suspect that if you kept on doing it, the detox reactions would
have eventually gone away, and you would have improved to some degree.

Marc

> The chiro was very upset,
> apologized to me, and said he should have gone slower but he had no
> idea I was so fragile

Oh, also note that during my NMT session, I was muscle tested to
first verify that I would be able to handle the treatment that
I was about to receive, and also tested as to how long I should
wait before doing any more treatments. So something like this
may have prevented the terrible reaction you had on your
treatment.

(I was actually hoping to come back sooner than a month,
but I was tested as not being ready to come back for a month)

Marc

Hi again, Marc,
   
This sounds likely. The BEST treatment rings a bell with me. I think itis time to give this chiro another call. lol Thanks for the info.
   
Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This is interesting as I had a chiro several years ago do something
> similar with me but I got so ill afterwards I never returned. lol I
> think it was in 2001 or 2002 so it was not likely the same thing, but
> sounds like it was very similar.

There have actually been several similar sorts of techniques developed
between NAET and NMT. For example, JMT was what my practitioner was
using immediately prior to NMT, but there has also been TBM, NET, JMT,
and BEST used by other practitioners.

But yes, it sounds like you had a big detox from whatever was done to
you. I suspect that if you kept on doing it, the detox reactions would
have eventually gone away, and you would have improved to some degree.

Marc


         

 
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