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Light Bulb Ban

superdrove
I am passinig this information on:


Cellular Phone Task Force
To info@cellphonetaskforce.org
Dec 23, 2013

This is your last chance to stock up on ordinary light bulbs, because it
will be illegal to manufacture or import them into the United States as
of January 1, 2014.  Please remind everyone.

In case you think it will be easy to travel to another country and bring
some back with you, most countries in the world either have already
banned incandescent bulbs or are in process of doing so.

The U.S., Canada, Malaysia and South Korea are banning them as of next
week.  Cuba banned them in 2007, Australia in 2010, the UK in 2011. The
entire European Union banned them as of September 1, 2012, and Israel
banned bulbs over 60 watts in January 2012.  Tajikistan prohibited them
as of 2009, and Russia plans to complete its phase-out next year.
China, where most incandescents are now manufactured, is scheduled to
ban 60 watt bulbs as of October 1, 2014, and 15 watt bulbs two years
later.  Mexico and all other Central American countries have agreed to
end sales of incandescents by the end of 2016, and the Economic
Community of West African States plans a complete phase-out before 2020.

The only country I have discovered where a ban is not underway is New
Zealand, which returned to sanity in 2008 and scrapped plans to prohibit
the bulbs.  I hope that is still true.  Perhaps my New Zealand contacts
can update me.

Also, although India's official policy is to eventually get rid of
ordinary, cheap, safe bulbs that emit warm and friendly light, it is
finding it difficult to enforce a ban on a billion less-than-wealthy
people.

Although halogen replacements are being touted by some as a safe (though
more expensive) variation on the incandescent bulb that is still legal
in the United States (the European Union has plans to ban them too by
September 1, 2016), they produce a hotter, bluer light, emit more
ultraviolet, and contain iodine or bromine.

The war on traditional light bulbs is being driven by profit.  There is
no valid environmental reason to ban them.  All the alternatives are
much more energy-intensive (and therefore costly and polluting) to
manufacture, and even the waste heat given off by incandescents (at
least in middle and high latitudes) contributes to the heating of our
homes during large parts of the year and must be replaced by gas or oil.

I need not mention the violation of human rights that is occurring.
Large numbers of people with disabilities are unable to use any of the
alternatives.

If anyone has information or discussion to contribute on this subject,
please email or call me.

Arthur Firstenberg
phone: 1-505-471-0129
--
  Cellular Phone Task Force
  info@cellphonetaskforce.org
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Re: Light Bulb Ban

Marc Martin
Administrator
On January  5, "superdrove [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am passinig this information on:
>
>
> Cellular Phone Task Force
> To [hidden email]
> Dec 23, 2013
>
> This is your last chance to stock up on ordinary light bulbs, because it
> will be illegal to manufacture or import them into the United States as
> of January 1, 2014.  Please remind everyone.

This information is misleading, as incandescent lights are and will
still be available in the USA.  You can purchase "rough service" lights,
which are usually for commercial/industrial purposes, as these are
exempt from the ban and are still the same old incandescent lights
that everyone should be able to tolerate (assuming you tolerated
incandescents in the first place)

You can also buy the new halogen incandescent bulbs, which are
replacing the old bulbs.  Again, there are no transformers, so to
someone with ES, these should be just as tolerable as the old
bulbs.

You can also buy line-level halogens, which do not emit any dirty
electricity, but have special fixtures.

Just avoid the compact flourescents, and some people react to
some types of LED bulbs as well (due to transformers)

Marc
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Re: Light Bulb Ban

Hawk
Another attack on the population. this has nothing to do with money. it goes deeper than that.

I bought refrigerator bulb and made my own installation. they are the old type. smaller socket though E17.
I find flourescent light disturbing. They are not full spectrum light which i think is one of the reason they are stressing my system. and contains mercury.
they also must contain some sort of electronics. when i scan them with my radio i hear loud emf emitting from them.
I'm talking about this one http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/cfl_all2.jpg

i prefer to scan with radio so i can listen to the frequency. number does not tell me much. just a confirmation that here is lots of emf. something i already can feel.
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Fog Top
Here are some other good articles about those CFL bulbs.  My face begins to burn if I sit too close to one.  I cannot eat in a restaurant that is full of them.
 
Some of them put out a huge magnetic field-measuring with a Trifield- and most cause massive dirty electricity on your home wiring. I've measured this  with a Stetzer meter and have seen a normal 25 go to to 815 and sometimes higher.
 
http://www.naturalhealth365.com/stop_cancer/cfl_light_bulbs.html
 
http://www.prevention.com/health/health-concerns/office-lightbulbs-may-increase-skin-cancer-risk#ixzz2HZBlBKzP


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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 05:31:56 -0800
From: [hidden email]

Another attack on the population. this has nothing to do with money. it goes deeper than that.

I bought refrigerator bulb and made my own installation. they are the old type. smaller socket though E17.
I find flourescent light disturbing. They are not full spectrum light which i think is one of the reason they are stressing my system. and contains mercury.
they also must contain some sort of electronics. when i scan them with my radio i hear loud emf emitting from them.
I'm talking about this one http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/cfl_all2.jpg

i prefer to scan with radio so i can listen to the frequency. number does not tell me much. just a confirmation that here is lots of emf. something i already can feel.


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Marc Martin
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Well, like I said, if you have control over the light bulbs in your house, there is no need to be using florescent bulbs, when there are still rough service incandescents, halogen incandescents, and maybe LED if you can stand them.

Marc


On January  6, "Fog Top [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Here are some other good articles about those CFL bulbs.  My face begins to burn if I sit too close to one.
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Aimee
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Could you expand a little about the meter you have? I think someone else has the filters as well... I would like to hear if they are worth it or not.

thanks

Aimee

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Sent: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:44:04 -0800 (PST)
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [ES] Re: Light Bulb Ban

Here are some other good articles about those CFL bulbs.  My face begins to burn if I sit too close to one.  I cannot eat in a restaurant that is full of them.
 
Some of them put out a huge magnetic field-measuring with a Trifield- and most cause massive dirty electricity on your home wiring. I've measured this  with a Stetzer meter and have seen a normal 25 go to to 815 and sometimes higher.
 
http://www.naturalhealth365.com/stop_cancer/cfl_light_bulbs.html
 
http://www.prevention.com/health/health-concerns/office-lightbulbs-may-increase-skin-cancer-risk#ixzz2HZBlBKzP


Sent from my hard wired computer.
 

Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 05:31:56 -0800
From: [hidden email]

Another attack on the population. this has nothing to do with money. it goes deeper than that.

I bought refrigerator bulb and made my own installation. they are the old type. smaller socket though E17.
I find flourescent light disturbing. They are not full spectrum light which i think is one of the reason they are stressing my system. and contains mercury.
they also must contain some sort of electronics. when i scan them with my radio i hear loud emf emitting from them.
I'm talking about this one http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/cfl_all2.jpg

i prefer to scan with radio so i can listen to the frequency. number does not tell me much. just a confirmation that here is lots of emf. something i already can feel.


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Aimee
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I'm looking at buying the Stetzer meter and filters.  Does anyone have any experience with them?  very expensive so I am doing my research :)
thanks and if I replied to the group before and it was a mess, I apologize.

Aimee
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Marc Martin
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On January  6, "Aimee [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I'm looking at buying the Stetzer meter and filters.  Does anyone have any
> experience with them?  very expensive so I am doing my research :)
> thanks and if I replied to the group before and it was a mess, I apologize.

Seems like the response to these have been mixed.  Some people said
they reduced symptoms, some say they didn't.  Some said they made
things worse.  Apparently these should not be used if your outlets are
wired incorrectly, which you can test with an outlet tester.

The meter measures noise on the power lines, and you can reduce that
reading with other filters besides the Stetzer filters.

Marc
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Aimee
WoW and disappointing .  I was hoping to hear better then that lol.   Thank you Marc for your prompt reply.
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Patricia
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i have a meter/filter - an emf powerpro.  
It only costs $150 and one or two will 
take care of the whole house, usually
it does a good job in normal spaces.  you 
have to hunt and peck around for THE outlet 
that makes the difference to the whole
line, but it does help with the excess output 
at the wall.  HOWEVER, what i found is that 
the filter - since it collects 'dirty electricity' - 
has a high EMF reading itself.  so???  if 
you can find THE outlet(s) that reduces the 
dirty electricity, that's good... and then 
avoid the filters... work/play/sleep on 
the opposite side of the room - then you've 
got it made.  but you don't really get rid of
the offending invisible non-substance - 
you just collect it in the filter.  the outlets 
here measure off the scale, so i just turn 
off the breakers where i can.  at night, i 
pull the plugs out at the wall.  my computer, 
fortunately, allows me to put it to 'sleep', 
unplug it, and when i get up in the morning, 
and plug it back in, it 'remembers' where i 
was the night before.  still, the other lines 
that have not been turned off at the breakers 
are so high that the room still is full of 
'dirty electricity'... but at least it is lower.  
and i place my surge protectors with all 
their transformers as far from my body 
as possible, for they measure in each little 
plug-in spot, again, off the scale.  i think 
that might have to do with out-of-control 
solar panels up there, somewhere on the 
other side of the ceiling, on the roof.  eek.  
we live in an out-of-control energy soup.
love, patricia


On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote:

On January  6, "Aimee [via ES]" <<a href="x-msg://589/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4027013&amp;i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
> I'm looking at buying the Stetzer meter and filters.  Does anyone have any
> experience with them?  very expensive so I am doing my research :)
> thanks and if I replied to the group before and it was a mess, I apologize.

Seems like the response to these have been mixed.  Some people said
they reduced symptoms, some say they didn't.  Some said they made
things worse.  Apparently these should not be used if your outlets are
wired incorrectly, which you can test with an outlet tester.

The meter measures noise on the power lines, and you can reduce that
reading with other filters besides the Stetzer filters.

Marc



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Ellen
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Marc,  
You said there are other ways to filter out the dirty electricity besides Stetzer filters.  Would you please let us know some of those other ways (and if they are more problem-free and cheaper then the Stetzers?)
Many thanks, Ellen
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Marc Martin
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On January  7, "Ellen [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> You said there are other ways to filter out the dirty electricity besides
> Stetzer filters.  Would you please let us know some of those other ways (and
> if they are more problem-free and cheaper then the Stetzers?)

I use Furman linear filtering power strips, which reduce the readings on the
Stetzer meters, but do not give me a sharp pain in my head that the Stetzer
filters do.  But there are a variety of power filters on the market -- I recall one
brand being mentioned here that sounded like a direct competitor, but
these are also popular in the audio/video world, as clean power can mean
better quality audio and video.

But the Furman power strips are not cheaper then the Stetzers -- just
more problem-free.

I also use Quantum power conditioners, but these do NOT reduce
the readings on the Stetzer meters, but rather reduce my symptoms,
which I consider to more important than the meter readings.  :-)

Marc
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Marc Martin
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On January  7, "Marc Martin [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On January  7, "Ellen [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > You said there are other ways to filter out the dirty electricity besides
> > Stetzer filters.  Would you please let us know some of those other ways (and
> > if they are more problem-free and cheaper then the Stetzers?)

Here is a competitor to the Stetzerizer filters, Greenwave:

  http://www.greenwavefilters.com/stetzerizer-gs-filters/

I have not personally tried these.

Marc
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Aimee
I called emf.ca today and the call didn't sit that well with me.  I asked her approx. how many filters would an average 1100 sq ft home need and she said 40!!  I said I didn't think we had 40 outlets in the whole house!  I then asked about returns and she said no one ever returned. On the site it states they will accept Unopened returns.

Then she told me that 2 autistic children were talking now after their mom used the filters , in my area no less!  about a minute later I asked if the inspector would come to my province or did he work only in Ontario and she asked where I was.  Oh my.

Then she said if I get a boat load of people in my town that want him to inspect homes, pay the flight / hotel.... he would come here.

So I checked out the site Marc posted, thank you , and I decided to get the meter and sample starter filters.....   30 day money back guarantee.  $300 as compared to $700 or $800 from emf.

Will keep you all posted.

Aimee
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charles
At http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina12c.html there is a chapter *Dirty Power*.

It is in German, and explains what to do.
It is no good in placing so many filters in the house, because so unwanted resonances may occur, which may disrupt electrican appliances.

First, one has to locate the sources of the dirty power, and resolve them.
For the rest, one can use filters, and normally 5 (=five) will do.

Be also aware, that the Stetzer stuff only works from 5kHz up to 150-200kHz.
On http://www.minderstraling.nl/Pagina050.html I have placed spectrumanalyses of the influence of Powerplugs. See figures 3 and 4. The dirty frequencies (green peaks) range from 5 kHz up to 20.000kHz or 20MHz.