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Lily
Hello all you electrical beings!

Just read the last posts back through November, got lots of
great info, and was gratified to see that I have sisters and brothers in the same electrical buzz I am in.  

I have been extremely sensitive to cell phones for eight years,
and other emf's for 15 years. Get headaches (which I almost never
get otherwise) and muscle pain and spasm in along my spine, neck,
shoulders, sometimes nausea, and if it's a really bad zap, cognitive
dysfunction for a while. Must stay five or six feet away from all
cell phones. Makes shopping or going to the movies a fun little dance.

The worst pain of all though, has been the disbelief of other people,
especially friends, many of whom have just passed my ES off as a
psychological disturbance. Well, the only psychological disturbance
I now have has to do with them! But hey, I forgive them all, knowing
that I am certainly not free of intolerance myself.

After researching and studying this phenomenon for eight years, I
have come to the same conclusion as some others who posted on this group, that being that ES almost always is tied in with other conditions in the body. I am also (mildly) chemically sensitive.

I think about the honeybees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD); how large numbes of bees are dying these days. No one seems to be able to decide whatis killing them exactly; whether it is the pesticides or the electropollution. Well, maybe both. One could be a set-up to make their bee bodies more conducive to the other. No pesticide exposure, then maybe the electrosmog wouldn't bother them so much.

I have now met a number of folks who are hypersensitive to cell phones, andalmost every one of them is also chemically sensitive.
Tracing back my own history to see if I could uncover my ES etiology,
there was a two-year period when I was 10 and 11 that I lived in a
military housing tract surrounded by pineapple fields in Hawaii.
Heavily sprayed, I'm sure. Then in '87, I had an MRI with a mouthful
of mercury amalgams, which may have given me a big jolt with all of
that metal in me. Just conjecture, trying to put the pieces together.

Great suggestions by someone here about "grounding" oneself. Hug a tree, walk on the beach, Earth, even concrete (which will transmit the
Earth frequency). Barefoot though! Or shoes with leather soles.
There is a technology, Earth Tether pads, which are slept on and have some metal woven into them, and have a tether that goes outside into the ground.Many testimonials from people saying how it has dramatically reduced their pain and inflammation (the ES symptoms being an inflammatory response).

As far as the remedial gizmos and such, it sounds like some of them work for some people. I was tested for the Tesla watch I wore, and was told that it was neutral for me, not good or bad. The Qlink however, was overstimulating.  

According to Dr. George Carlo (at an Electro Magnetic Radiation weekend seminar in Feb. 2008), for an electrically-sensitive person,
these subtle energy devices can sometimes do more harm than good.
That is, they can potentially mask an ES person's symptoms so that
she feels protected, but is actually still being affected and being made worse. He did say that the de-tox foot baths were beneficial,
but not all of them. The ones that you put on at night and are brown in the morning have just turned color because of a chemical reaction,
not because it drew all sorts of toxins out of you.

He also explain what happens to an ES person on a physiological level.
When explosed to emf, the nervous system goes into a "sympathetic lock". That's where the red blood cells clump together (like in "rouleau", if anyoneknows about live blood microscopy). This makes the body a bit oxygen deficient, as you can imagine. So that is where the QiGung would come in handy-dancy at re-oxygenating the body. As well as food-grade hydrogen peroxide, I'm guessing (if you do this, be very careful and follow the directions that come with it carefully as it can be fatal).

And yes, he did disassociate himself from the Bio-Pro people. That was because when he first made his (informal) affiliation with them,
he believed them when they (Bio-Pro) told him that they had done their due diligence insofar as their research on their products. Dr. Carlo found outlater that in fact they had NOT done their due diligence, and that their products did not do all that they claimed.

I do know people who have sworn by the Bio-Pro cell phone chips.
Actually, one is a ES person who can (barely) tolerate cell phones,
but not TV's or computers. She put a Bio-Pro chip on her phone and
could talk on speakerphone for hours without getting a mirgraine.

The thing is, that apparently the chips have a lifespan, and who knows
how long lived it will actually be. I was a Bio-Pro distributor but gave it up since I couldn't be certain of their products.

Now the only therapy that I have found that will ameliorate (diminish or nullify) my ES symptoms when I get zapped is Emotional Freedom Technique. It's amazing! It really does get rid of the pain.
If you would like to know more, go to the website (not mine!):
www.emofree.com. There you can find an instruction manual which you
can download for FREE. What's the catch? There is none.

Anyone else out there have to use pay phones? What a life, huh?
Well, thanks for listening folks. I'm very interested in your comments/corrections.

Lily

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Healthgal
Hello Lilly,

I am new to this site too and trying to find some ways to manage this
sensitivity. I know that the insult to my body was living directly under HV
Power lines for eight years. At the time I didn't know what the consequences
would be. Since having Epstein Barr years ago, I have been somewhat
chemically sensitive but the electrical part only started after a Bau Biologist
told me what could happen and to move. Move I did but now I'm sensitive to
my computer mouse, and my cordless phone and maybe even my wired phone.
I'm rarely on my cell.

The grounding methods you have read about all work to some degree and one
must keep up with it. One you didn't mention is taking an all metal knife,
inserting into the ground and pouring water around it. Then you sit and
hold the knife for half hour or so. A friend just told me about this and I'm
going to do it tomorrow.

The jewelry didn't work for me. Over stimulated me.

So welcome to this bunch of people with what just might be a 21 century
disease.


Estelle


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PUK
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In a message dated 10/12/2009 06:06:09 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:

I think about the honeybees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD); how large
numbes of bees are dying these days. No one seems to be able to decide what
is killing them exactly; whether it is the pesticides or the
electropollution. Well, maybe both. One could be a set-up to make their bee bodies more
conducive to the other. No pesticide exposure, then maybe the electrosmog
wouldn't bother them so much


PUK replies - or perhaps true to form the Esmog slowly degrades thier
immune system and leaves them vunerable and pre-disposed to microorgansim attack
and pesticide damage ?


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Christina Steils
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Thank you! Fellow super hero!
Can i ask you are you still working? As im i would say 80% better after 18 months of detox as best i can. EMF is still a bit of a problem but, wifi and phones are not so much of a problem in on most days.
Best
Giles UK

--- On Thu, 10/12/09, lilylighthands <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: lilylighthands <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Just tapped into this group
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 5:16















 
 



 


   
     
     
Hello all you electrical beings!



Just read the last posts back through November, got lots of

great info, and was gratified to see that I have sisters and brothers in the same electrical buzz I am in.  



I have been extremely sensitive to cell phones for eight years,

and other emf's for 15 years. Get headaches (which I almost never

get otherwise) and muscle pain and spasm in along my spine, neck,

shoulders, sometimes nausea, and if it's a really bad zap, cognitive

dysfunction for a while. Must stay five or six feet away from all

cell phones. Makes shopping or going to the movies a fun little dance.



The worst pain of all though, has been the disbelief of other people,

especially friends, many of whom have just passed my ES off as a

psychological disturbance. Well, the only psychological disturbance

I now have has to do with them! But hey, I forgive them all, knowing

that I am certainly not free of intolerance myself.



After researching and studying this phenomenon for eight years, I

have come to the same conclusion as some others who posted on this group, that being that ES almost always is tied in with other conditions in the body. I am also (mildly) chemically sensitive.



I think about the honeybees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD); how large numbes of bees are dying these days. No one seems to be able to decide whatis killing them exactly; whether it is the pesticides or the electropollution. Well, maybe both. One could be a set-up to make their bee bodies more conducive to the other. No pesticide exposure, then maybe the electrosmog wouldn't bother them so much.



I have now met a number of folks who are hypersensitive to cell phones, andalmost every one of them is also chemically sensitive.

Tracing back my own history to see if I could uncover my ES etiology,

there was a two-year period when I was 10 and 11 that I lived in a

military housing tract surrounded by pineapple fields in Hawaii.

Heavily sprayed, I'm sure. Then in '87, I had an MRI with a mouthful

of mercury amalgams, which may have given me a big jolt with all of

that metal in me. Just conjecture, trying to put the pieces together.



Great suggestions by someone here about "grounding" oneself. Hug a tree, walk on the beach, Earth, even concrete (which will transmit the

Earth frequency). Barefoot though! Or shoes with leather soles.

There is a technology, Earth Tether pads, which are slept on and have some metal woven into them, and have a tether that goes outside into the ground.Many testimonials from people saying how it has dramatically reduced their pain and inflammation (the ES symptoms being an inflammatory response).



As far as the remedial gizmos and such, it sounds like some of them work for some people. I was tested for the Tesla watch I wore, and was told that it was neutral for me, not good or bad. The Qlink however, was overstimulating.  



According to Dr. George Carlo (at an Electro Magnetic Radiation weekend seminar in Feb. 2008), for an electrically- sensitive person,

these subtle energy devices can sometimes do more harm than good.

That is, they can potentially mask an ES person's symptoms so that

she feels protected, but is actually still being affected and being made worse. He did say that the de-tox foot baths were beneficial,

but not all of them. The ones that you put on at night and are brown in the morning have just turned color because of a chemical reaction,

not because it drew all sorts of toxins out of you.



He also explain what happens to an ES person on a physiological level.

When explosed to emf, the nervous system goes into a "sympathetic lock". That's where the red blood cells clump together (like in "rouleau", if anyoneknows about live blood microscopy). This makes the body a bit oxygen deficient, as you can imagine. So that is where the QiGung would come in handy-dancy at re-oxygenating the body. As well as food-grade hydrogen peroxide, I'm guessing (if you do this, be very careful and follow the directions that come with it carefully as it can be fatal).



And yes, he did disassociate himself from the Bio-Pro people. That was because when he first made his (informal) affiliation with them,

he believed them when they (Bio-Pro) told him that they had done their due diligence insofar as their research on their products. Dr. Carlo found outlater that in fact they had NOT done their due diligence, and that their products did not do all that they claimed.



I do know people who have sworn by the Bio-Pro cell phone chips.

Actually, one is a ES person who can (barely) tolerate cell phones,

but not TV's or computers. She put a Bio-Pro chip on her phone and

could talk on speakerphone for hours without getting a mirgraine.



The thing is, that apparently the chips have a lifespan, and who knows

how long lived it will actually be. I was a Bio-Pro distributor but gave it up since I couldn't be certain of their products.



Now the only therapy that I have found that will ameliorate (diminish or nullify) my ES symptoms when I get zapped is Emotional Freedom Technique. It's amazing! It really does get rid of the pain.

If you would like to know more, go to the website (not mine!):

www.emofree. com. There you can find an instruction manual which you

can download for FREE. What's the catch? There is none.



Anyone else out there have to use pay phones? What a life, huh?

Well, thanks for listening folks. I'm very interested in your comments/correction s.



Lily





   
     

   
   


 



 











     

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