Juicer - what to get?

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earthworm
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The words "psychopathological entitlement mentality" are probably not picked well, let me narrow it down into "psychopathic entitlement mentality", although this will also lead to confusion, just already because most people believe that merely a few "evil" lowlifes are psychopaths and certainly not the great majority of humans.
The whole common definition of "psychopath" makes of course no sense, it's lacking depth, unconscious academics and angry youtubers have projected the phenomenon into their flat-land non-reality, and we have to deal with such idiocy.
Language remains a highly problematic means of communication, especially when few are aware of that fact.

I did not say that Antony is a christian ( in case it looked that way ), believe that "surviving" will not be an issue for him, and do not resonate with his marketing approach in the least.
Nevertheless on the whole we appear to "agree" , you make a whole bunch of good points.
Also we will share the impression that, in order to heal from diseases, following Medical Medium protocols is in general a far better bet than submitting oneself to the practices of the established medical industry.

 
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Re: Juicer - what to get?

Jinna
Yes, earthworm, I also think we funnily do agree in most things!!!!

Our current medical practices are really bad, taking us nowhere, but in a deeper hole.

Celery juice alone is doing more to me than most treatments I did in the past, both internally and in drops inside my sinuses.

I guess I also will need to invest in a better juicer one day.

I wonder how others are doing with celery juice?
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Marc Martin
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> I wonder how others are doing with celery juice?

Well I'm still trying to build a tolerance to it.  Anything more than 6 - 8 ounces per day and I get a nasty pain in my left side.

But I do see that my skin looks better (moister, more evenly colored, less acne).  And I do see that my nasal passages are more open (so breathing is easier).

I've been giving some of my leftover celery juice to my wife, who started quickly complaining about a metallic taste in her mouth.  Certainly with years of detoxing behind me, I remember that symptom from others things I've tried in the past.  But I'm not getting that now with the celery juice.

On the Celery Juice Facebook group, I am a bit concerned about a number of people who say that continued usage of celery juice has caused them new health problems that they did not have before. Not sure if they are simply drinking too much (as 16oz seems way too much for me, at least for now) or they are using non-organic celery, or maybe this isn't a good thing to do for many people.

Marc
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Fog Top
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Jinna, I appreciate how you share what has helped you regain your health.  I am somewhat confused about celery juice and nitrates/nitrites.  I stay away from food products with added nitrates/nitrites since research showed nitrates/nitrites which, form nitrosamine when in contact with saliva, to be implicated with gastrointestinal tumors.

Some lunch meats and bacons are claiming to be "uncured" with no added nitrates followed by an asterisk saying that celery juice powder is used instead.  Celery is high in sodium nitrite as are many other vegetables, but there aren't any warnings about consuming them.  This article indicates that nitrates are OK if consumed with Vitamin C or E, and that the USDA requires these vitamins to be added to bacon - hmm, they care?  I'll have to check labels. 



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Yes, earthworm, I also think we funnily do agree in most things!!!!

Our current medical practices are really bad, taking us nowhere, but in a deeper hole.

Celery juice alone is doing more to me than most treatments I did in the past, both internally and in drops inside my sinuses.

I guess I also will need to invest in a better juicer one day.

I wonder how others are doing with celery juice?


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Jinna
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Thanks Marc, for your feedback.

I was taking almost 24oz, but had such a bad crash that I had to go back to 8oz.
Now I'm on about 10-12 oz.

don't push up, it brings nothing to suffer.
I see it as a disinfectant, mostly, and if you take too much, you get over reactions of die off, loads of toxins, etc

Yes, skin!! It's amazing how it changes skin.

But don't be over-happy: in another future phase, you'll probably see many things popping out through the skin, mostly herpes family viruses can come out and cause symptoms.

It's short lived, usually. My explanation would be: the celery will go after mucus, dissolve it, expose pathogens behind to both celery juice AND the immune system.

AS long as pathogens hide behind something (heavy metals, mucus, toxins), the immune system has no access, they are happy and quiet (sometimes, not too quiet, but most times, they only reproduce slowly there, without being bothered).

The moment they get exposed, they never die without a fight. Sometimes, it's THE fight of their lives, and you may get a SUPER reaction. People usually back off treatments thinking they are causing the problem.

As I have fought lyme and several infections for so many years, I only can say one thing: if you stop treating in that case, when microbes fight because they are afraid of being doomed by your immune system, they MAY win.

That's when some type of energy testing helped. I used to be worried when new infectious symptoms showed up, but since I started measuring all my herbs, etc, I started to see a pattern.

It was always the same pattern: clean heavy metals -> get rise in an infection.
Clean some other toxins -> infection awakens again.

Attack a chronic infection -> it may get mad and fight back with violence.

It all depends on the way you attack it : violence brings little in chronic treatment (like you take super combos of antibiotics -> chronic infections will win!, almost 98% of certainty...).

The new health problems arising from celery or any natural treatment is usually not true.
I can't say 100% certainty, but as I said, I've been using energy testing, and in this way you can see things before symptoms arise.

Ex: heavy metals and toxins love joints and nerves. They bind there due to electrical charge or so.
They do not create troubles immediately. It takes months, years of weakening the area's immune system, and breeding pathogens.

When symptoms come, it's already late stage chronic infections.

If they had fought lyme disease, like I had, they would know that a good antimicrobial (like celery, cats claw, ginger, licorice, etc) will necessarily CREATE new symptoms, because it will attack low grade chronic infections.

That's when they think: I never had pain in that elbow but after celery, the pain started!!

Or, I never had pain in that nerve, after celery, it started!

And of course, it takes months to heal, because the infection WAS chronic.

Same way people here with EHS do not know their nerves are fully infected, or full of heavy metals and G-knows what other toxins, that their gut is in super bad shape, etc

The moment you treat correctly, it can be a roller coaster.

People may get the metallic taste and blame celery to have heavy metals.
Or they may get tinnitus and blame celery to have caused that.

Or get LOADS of inflammation, skin symptoms, confusion, tiredness (I got extremely tired on my 24zo dose), but I blamed my stupidity, because I wanted fast healing.
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Jinna
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Fog Top, if you got the Celery book, Anthony explains the story of nitrates very well.

Celery does not contain any nitrates that are activated or harmful unless it's oxidized.
Natural nitrates do not exist in celery when fresh.

Not only celery, but any herb, vegetable or fruit juice, when oxidized, develops a natural occurring nitrate, that is never harmful in any way.

Not all nitrates are the same, just as not all water is the same (glacier water and pool water are different).
While glacier water is extremely healthy, almost magic, if you drink it... pool water has only hazardous things inside it.

The water in fruits such as water melon is not the same water from your tap, nor the same water from a stream.

... like not all sugar is the same (fruit sugar, table sugar, glucose syrup from GMO corn etc)

... like not all proteins are the same (animal proteins, veggie protein, grain protein, supplement protein, etc)

... like not all fats are the same (pork fat, butter, avocado, fats in grass, in cold pressed oils, salmon fat, in hot pressed oils, rancid oils etc)

Natural concurring nitrates that can develop from oxidized celery (or in celery powder) are not the same nitrates that are ADDED to meat and industrial products.

An example he gave: try to add celery powder containing nitrates to cure meat, it won't work! The meat will rot. This is because it does not contain nitrites.

Don't drink celery with ADDED NITRATES because that will give you bad reactions.
I mean, if you buy an industrial product, they may add the chemical nitrate to preserve it.
That IS harmful!

but natural occuring nitrates in celery won't harm, so he writes.
And anyway, you are eating these nitrates with any veggie or fruit the moment you cut them open, because all create such nitrates due to oxidation.
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