Ipad

Yes I like to read particular books & there is something about an old fashioned book that emits no emf's but to each his own!  Loni

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From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Ipad
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Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 1:45 AM


 



Rixta wrote:
I suppose the iPad is made to be used with wi-fi and
most options can't be used without connection. The Kindle is much
simpler and you only need the wi-fi if you want to buy books from
Amazon.

Stephen replies:
Ipad is sth of a small touch-screen laptop. Emf-wise it will also be pretty much the same as a recent laptop...

Kindle will definitely emit less emf than iPad, but well you can't to do that much with Kindle, I rather buy books I want to read and don't have any emf during reading ;-) And what's handier than a book?

Although I must admit, I have put a quick glance on a Kindle, discretely on one of a subway passenger, and the screen seems rather comfortable on the eye!

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I haven't thrown out my library card and I even buy paper books now and
then. But I had a lot of e-books on my computers that I never read,
because I can't stare at a computer screen very long. With an e-reader
that problem got solved. So I use both, whatever I feel for at any moment.

Rixta

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From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Ipad
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Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 10:18 PM


 



No microwave radiation if you turn of the wi-fi. Don't ask me what e-ink
is, but the Kindle screen is definitely different from any other digital
screen. I find it very nice to the eyes and the print is very clear.

Rixta
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> Stephen replies:
> Ipad is sth of a small touch-screen laptop. Emf-wise it will also be pretty
> much the same as a recent laptop...
>

Do you think so, that it would emit no more than a laptop? Im not emf sensitive but my immune system is struggling. I seem to do better with an ipad as there are less chemicals bit concerned about the emfs. Would be good if it were no worse than a laptop.

> Do you think so, that it would emit no more than a laptop? Im not emf
> sensitive but my immune system is struggling. I seem to do better with an
> ipad as there are less chemicals bit concerned about the emfs. Would be
> good if it were no worse than a laptop.

It's probably comparable to a laptop, but note that there is a wide
range of laptops out there.  I find some laptops to be tolerable,
some not.

Marc

Here's what I can say about it:

- I have the last iPAD released, the Pro 10.5, 256 GB, wifi + cell.

Without a SIM card installed (so no 4G).

In iOS 10.3.2 (the version that is shipped with it) I measured this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAWPDMzkyD4&t=0s

As you can see the RF radiation is high, with both wi-fi and bluetooth.

Before iOS 11 we were able to turn off (for good) both wi-fi and bluetooth, after iOS 11 doing this from Control Center only disables temporarily.

To disable for good in iOS 11 and later you need to visit iOS internal settings. Otherwise it will continue with the RF radiation. For more info about this part please read this link:
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-really-turn-off-wi-fi-and-bluetooth-in-ios-11-1818655697

(The above is crucial information and it should never be forgotten. Disabling from control center does nothing as far as I remember, if the goal is to reduce radiation).

Another tip: don't use Airplane mode. Disable each thing manually, because with Airplane mode ON you'll get annoying warnings (to disable it), even if you don't want to use the internet. For example, nPlayer for iOS is a video player that also has a browser. If I open it with Airplane mode it will ask me to disable it. These warnings can't be turned off.


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I also noticed that cellular data is disabled by default in iOS 10. Maybe because I didn't have a SIM card.

The green circle with the lollipop and double parentheses (the icon) is missing in iOS 10.

When I updated to iOS 12 (from 10.3.2 - I didn't try 11 because it had battery issues) the icon was back there, and it was enabled by default.

This is the 3rd thing from the iPAD that can emit a lot of RF radiation.

I did further measures and discovered that cellular data (despite not having any SIM card installed) is the worst of the 3, since from time to time it scans for a signal, and this alone emits more than the rest.

I don't have a video of this, however I did the measure with the iPhone 7 Plus, already using iOS 11:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUufAygH5rA

As expected 4G (or cellular data) is extreme.

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By the way, if you want to continue using the internet with the iPAD and iPhone it's possible with two specific adapters:

a) This black one from Belkin, model: F4U047bt

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E9655LU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

b) Lightning to USB Camera Adapter, from Apple

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821AM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter

Pictures:

Belkin - Manual:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oOds0R5UeJ6f86RArXy1EQ-I3H0wmpZb

Belkin- package and contents, plus a picture of everything connected:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18CxwZAgs2VqOBooE4iW6IQCYfUQqs9_B

The Apple adapter:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-huLfKAvgiUU5JUESqbGmQY8gce2LnPA

Pros:

- It doesn't need to be powered. This is the only model in the world that works this way. If you buy another it will say "this device uses too much power".

Cons:

- The max upload speeds are never faster than 12 MB/s, which is very slow, for streaming in your own network or sending files (from PC to the iPAD, for example). It's not gigabit, even if you use a gigabit router and CAT 5-E/CAT-6 ethernet cables.

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Now, if you want gigabit speeds (up to 100, 120 MB/s) in your own network:

Buy these and forget the adapters mentioned before:

a) Anker.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC0H9IE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Anker - Manual:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Jgwoamzu5-3qMzwgkrQ8wPzEVl-KarTx

Anker - package and contents, plus a picture of everything connected:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ekDkqdbliQWpMAkmS_UnK7QaH20LU8wn

b) Apple USB 3 camera adapter:

https://www.apple.com/us_smb_83039/shop/product/MK0W2AM/A/lightning-to-usb-3-camera-adapter

Pictures:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=192G-gvirU07kw0aYQBmNP5Xppvg7CQzy

You'll also need your lightning cable and charger.

Pros:

- Much faster speeds in your own network. It's gigabit. Up to 100 MB/s.
- While you use the internet your device is charging, too.

Cons:

- Needs to be powered, which means = unnecessary electric field close to you. So of course it's not a good idea to use it all the time, only when necessary.

- A power cord extension will be certainly needed, since the lightning cable is often short. Or buy the 2m version.

And a warning:

- Facetime doesn't work in Ethernet mode (a bug never fixed by Apple). I use Skype/Telegram instead.

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As for the Kindle it's equally bad. I did another video about it:

Cornet ED88T+ measuring the Kindle Paperwhite (3rd gen, 2015):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYigMKxMnU

Acoustimeter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXy4k2O11NA

UHS2 (magnetic field - didn't notice anything unusual):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJHcypZJmj8

I always leave in Airplane mode.

BTW, I almost forgot:

- In an effort to reduce the magnetic field from these devices I recommend that owners buy a tablet stand.

Put yours in a table and sit comfortably (in good posture) in a chair. Putting some distance will help, of course. Even when I watch a video in my bed I put two pillows below the tablet.

Apple has announced today new iPADs that don't have a headphone jack. Now if someone wants to use wired headphones it needs to buy a USB-C to 3.5 mm headphone adapter. There are a few questions unanswered, as you can see from this link:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/has-anyone-tried-using-ethernet-on-ipad-pro.1974288/page-5#post-26723085

Among them:

- Can we have gigabit speeds? (probably - and I'll assume it will not need to be powered, so it's a good thing since the Anker + USB 3 camera adapter from Apple both generate EMF from electric field - the reason is that the iPAD is being charged at the same time we use ethernet with these adapters)

- Can we use two devices in the USB-C port at the same time? (read below: so far no one said this is possible)

- Will the current adapters work? (my guess: no, because they use "lightning" port/adapters)

I guess it's not possible to use 2 in the same port, so that means the following:

- Even if we use ethernet cable (so no wi-fi) we will not be able any longer to use a wired headphone while browsing the internet.

And that's a huge loss, not only for podcasts or Youtube videos (example), I also use apps like nPlayer/Infuse (video players) to stream from my Google Drive accounts (where I have in some cases HUGE files), or may use my PC (local network) for that.

What that means is this: we will need to download ALL contents we want to listen with our wired headphones. This can be done but it isn't acceptable, since even with a fast internet it takes TOO MUCH TIME. It would be very inconvenient, and in my view cripple everything.

Or use a bluetooth one, which is known to be one of the most toxic devices in terms of EMF (especially because it's close to the head).

I want you to take a good look into the link (it's another thread from Macrumors) I am going to post below:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/airpods-and-headache-ear-pain.2022765/

As you can see multiple users reported health issues with these headphones. A few even decided to do some research on the subject. I sold my Airpods a while ago.

I am not going to go into other details about the new iPADs such as the ridiculous prices or negligible changes (mostly cosmetic), since this is besides the point.

What has become clear to me is that Apple doesn't care about our health and ALL THE TIME is concerned about profits, which is why they for the 1st time removed the headphone jack from the iPAD. They did this with iPhones also recently, and even decided not to include the headphone adapter in the new models sold.

This isn't a recent link:
https://macintoshhowto.com/hardware/emf.html

However it says the following:

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- Apple are making it harder and harder to lower your EMF exposure by reducing the users choice to disable WiFi.

For example:

- In the latest release of iOS 11 you can no longer turn off WiFi or Bluetooth from the iPhone Control Centre.

- The new Apple Home Pod does not have an Ethernet port. It only works with wifi. (Google Home can be used with an Ethernet cable using the Chrome Ethernet adapter)

The Apple AirPods have extremely high EMF levels – see this article:
https://macintoshhowto.com/hardware/extreme-emf-exposure-from-apple-airpods.html
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Now to turn wi-fi, bluetooth and cellular data off we need to either use Airplane mode or go to iOS internal settings. Prior to iOS 10 we could disable each one of them manually from the Control Center. So they made things harder for no reason at all. Now from Control Center (since iOS 11) we only disable these things temporarily.

To sum things up Apple has took a stance against us and wants customers to receive as much EMF pollution as possible.

I'll be waiting for that user's input in the 1st thread, since I don't plan to buy from this company ever again.

I suggest for anyone that is reading me to invest in Samsung or a similar product from other companies, that decided not to ditch the headphone jack or allow us to turn off the things that emit RF radiation.

Apple is so stupid that even if I turn Airplane mode ON it will keep pestering me to disable, once I open apps that might require internet access (please note these apps work in offline mode, too - the internet is just for a few features). These warnings from iOS (Apple) can' be turned off in their devices. That's why I suggested disabling each thing manually.

For replacing an iPAD I would take a look into the Galaxy Tab S4. I'll investigate this one further, to see if I can use a gigabit ethernet adapter. If this is possible then I'll check if selling my 10.5 iPAD is a good idea.

There's also the S-Pen from this Tab S4, which doesn't use bluetooth like the Apple Pencil. The S-Pen works with a magnetic field, since it doesn't need to be recharged.

I measured the 1st Apple Pencil model (now they released a 2nd one, for the new iPADs) and it also generates a lot of EMF (RF radiation), as evidenced in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAWPDMzkyD4

With Apple this is the sort of thing we are exposed to. Every. Single. Day.

No more.

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Update: Samsung has just confirmed a gigabit ethernet adapter would work with the Tab S4. And Anker did the same.

Here's what Samsung said to me:

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I'm Praveen from Samsung Technical Support.

This is in response to your email about the Ethernet compatibility for Tab S4.

We can use Ethernet only instead of a Wi-Fi on the Tablet for internet and it supports Gigabit speed. As there are no Ethernet adapters available from Samsung, you can use any regular Type C to Ethernet cable for the Tablet. Regarding the speeds, they always vary on you network strength and the adapter you use with the Tablet.
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And Anker:

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Thanks for your interest.

Please know you could use the following link to the ethernet adapter to help your Galaxy Tab S4 get access to the Internet:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZZ6NW5E

Hope this helps
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Let's see if that is the case with the new iPAD Pro 11 (October 2018), and if this really works with the S4.

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Update: November 5, 2018:

This review has just confirmed ethernet works with the new IPP 11 (October, 2018):
https://mobilesyrup.com/2018/11/05/ipad-pro-2018-review/

It says: "To my surprise, a third-party Anker ethernet adapter I tested out worked perfectly with the Pro, giving the tablet wired internet access".

However it does not inform if this gigabit. Since I haven't find any non-gigabit model this is good news...

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Aluminum-1-Gigabit-Compatible-ChromeBook/dp/B00ZZ6NW5E

However that doesn't answer my question:

- Can we use this gigabit ethernet adapter AND the USB-C headphone adapter from Apple?

Or:

- Can we use this gigabit ethernet adapter AND the USB-C iPAD charger?

With some random USB-C hub? At the same time?

Also I want to check what are the gigabit speeds. The max was 100, 120 MB/s with the old gigabit adapter.

I was told there is a hub that can provide both gigabit ethernet and the use of a wired headphone, for the new iPADs (released October 2018).

Here's what the company said:

Why not get this instead and be done with all the dongles and adapters? It has gigabit ethernet, 3.5mm headphone jack, power delivery pass-through charging and 8 other ports!

https://www.hypershop.com/collections/usb-c-hubs/products/hyperdrive-ultimate-usb-c-hub-for-macbook-pc-usb-c-devices

From the looks of it it seems cumbersome... but it would solve my complaint about wanting to use a gigabit ethernet USB-C adapter and Apple's USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter.

However there are reports of wi-fi issues at least with Apple's USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter, and one user said it's draining too much battery:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ipad-pro-gen-3-usb-c-to-headphone-adapter-wifi-interference.2155178/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/usb-c-to-3-5mm-headphone-adapter-draining-a-lot-of-battery.2156206/

Look into these threads for further info. Since this has been reported (at least the wi-fi problem) by multiple users I think it would be wise to get the headphone adapter from another brand.

I have no idea if this hub would work with the new iPADs, yet no reason why it shouldn't.

And about the previous iPADs/iPhones not using USB-C, but lightning port instead, I discovered something interesting today:

https://i.imgur.com/ellQ1k4.png
(click to open image in another tab/window from your browser)

I left my iPAD Pro 10.5 (256 GB, wifi+cell) with the non-gigabit combo:

- The Belkin USB 2.0 Ethernet Adapter (F4U047bt). It can be seen here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E9655LU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

- The Lightning to USB Camera Adapter from Apple:

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821AM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter

They are both connected to a CAT-6 ethernet cable, and the router is also gigabit. And the iPAD doesn't have wi-fi, bluetooth or cellular data on. Airplane mode is disabled to avoid iOS warnings.

Well, here's the thing: I left my house at 9, 10 AM... the iPAD was fully charged or at least close to 100%. When I returned 4 or 5 PM it was down to 50%.

I also leave the iPAD with these settings:

- Auto sleep after 15 minutes
- Wake and sleep when the Smart Cover is open/closed.

I didn't left the iPAD doing anything. So that means it will continue to drain battery if we leave ethernet plugged. It doesn't need to be used, the mere fact it was plugged to the lightning port was enough to drain the iPAD's battery.

Of course that is not an issue with the gigabit "combo", since it will also charge the iPAD.

Since this is the case with these adapters I also wonder if with the new iPADs and any gigabit ethernet adapter it would behave the same. As you can see from the graph the battery was reduced to 50% without any use at all. So it was really the ethernet adapters that did this.