Insights from Dr. Rea

Thanks, Tim,


You write:  "For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms."

Well, it wasn't enough for me either, Tim.  I am an old member here, so I sometimes assume people know more about me and the therapies I have done than they do; I'm not "cured", but very much improved (ill my entire life, I went from pretty much completely bed-bound for 13 years to a normal life, except for avoidance tactics.  I don't know how new you are here; you may have read this a dozen times by now.  lol)  I haven't needed meters to get here, tho my symptoms were immediate enough to make me at least as sensitive as a meter.  ;)  I would love a hand-held pH blood meter!  (As far as I know these don't exist.  pH saliva/ urine meters do, for hundreds of dollars.)


I didn't mean to imply that one could get by totally by pH fine-tuning alone.  Removing or shielding from sources of emfs in and around your home is at least as important as pH.  (You will not be able to maintain proper pH without doing it.)  Eating a healthy sugar-free, organic, gluten-free, fresh, unprocessed diet is (at least!) as important for me, personally, and possibly more important than avoiding all emfs.  [And, of course, I could not maintain proper pH without doing that, either.]  Detoxing was essential, and supplementing various nutrients has been necessary, as well.  I use supplementation in order to maintain proper pH/cell voltage when I am out and about soaking up all those "free" emf rays.  ;)


I contacted Dr. Rae 6+ years ago, btw.  I think very highly of him and his clinic.  It is great that you could go there!  I was never an actual patient (I live in Pennsylvania), but I spoke with his nurse, then, Carolyn Gorman, at length on various occasions and she gave me great advice, at the time.  She got funding for me to come to the clinic at half price (actually more like a fourth--they were going to arrange housing for me also with a local family there), but Dr. Rae didn't want to see me until I moved--I had a mast cell flare-up as a result of pesticide poisoning and he wanted me in a cleaner environment before I started detox.  By the time I finally found a suitable house, I was doing better on my own.  It was due to them, however, that I began walking a lot by a white-water river nearby where I lived to "ground" myself.  That was an extremely helpful therapy for me!  A caution: this is great to do only if you are sure the area you are
 walking in is, itself, free of ground currents.  Otherwise, you will take on emfs, instead of off-load them.  Also, I never recommend walking barefoot these days.  I use cotton socks with all leather moccasins.  Too many insects, ticks, fungi, bacteria, other things out there today to avoid. 


Blessings,
Diane




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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea
 
Hi Diane,


Thank you for the insight!  I love elegant simple solutions. In my many previous explorations, I worked with body pH for a good while and studied the curezone site. For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms. It was only until I invested in a very sensitive meter to figure out where my greatest exposure is at work and home, that I've been able to reduce symptoms. The Cornet meters are relatively inexpensive and are sensitive enough for testing. The body voltage meter might be a cheap feedback device, but I don't have much experience with it yet.  I got a spendy Acoustimeter because I'm still working in a high EMR IT environment, and I need a very sensitive meter. Of course the cheapest solution is to avoid Wifi and cells, keep electrical devices away from you, and turn off devices at night. Avoidance is working for me too...


It certainly is a complex issue, and each of us can learn from others experiences. PH is a part of the puzzle... Diet, endocrine health, environment, grounding, detox, all too seem to be parts as well... If regulating pH is helping your EHS symptoms, consider that a blessing!  :-) 


I look forward to looking into Dr. Tennant's work. Unfortunately our library doesn't have his books, DOH! 


Tim



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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea


 
Hi Paul and All,

Since I am relatively low tech, cannot afford all the pricey meters, would likely need a course in using most of them, etc.....  I learned to deal with this issue from another angle.  [If you knew me personally you would find I am always working to find the easiest way to do what others claim can only be done their difficult and costly way.  lol] 

Instead of measuring for voltage, I measure for pH.  Because *cell* voltage and cell pH correspond to one another, adjusting one's pH will automatically adjust one's cell
voltage.  Measuring *body* voltage is subjective--it depends on what the voltage of your environment is.  pH/ *cell* voltage is a measurement of what your body's cells are.  For the most accurate pH reading you can get, you should have a pH blood test, but you can also "work" on your pH, fine-tuning it up or down (usually, you need to get more alkaline, which is "up") by using saliva and urine pH readings.  You can use also water pH test strips to test the alkalinity of your drinking water, as drinking highly acid water will add to the acidity of your body (most water sources these days tend to more acidity, due to all the pollutants/emfs in them.  This is why, for 2 years, I drank filtered alkalized water at pH 7.5 to 7.8.  Make sure you are using the proper strips to read these (water, saliva, urine) pHes.  All pH strips are not the same.  The easy to find ones are for testing soil!

Rather than spend all day writing to
explain this, I am sending sites.  It is a bit of reading, but it is your health we are talking about here.  You should consider the reading as a good investment.  (Comment intended for All, not Paul.)  I did not come to this information thru Dr. Tennant, btw.  I stumbled and bumbled my way to it (over decades) on my own.  However, rather than taking you thru my convoluted path to healing, I thought I'd share a short-cut.  ;)

This is an article written about Dr. Jerry Tennant's work, called, "Voltage: The Key to Rebuilding your Health".  If you do not "see" this article, write me and I will send the text by copy/ paste.  (Perhaps not soon--I am only online these days once a week.)  The book referenced is one of Dr. Tennant's books in his, "Healing is Voltage" line.  I recommend reading all of Dr. Tennant's books (and his site) which you can get your hands on, but at least read "Healing is Voltage: The Handbook" and/or "Healing is Voltage: The Textbook".  (And yes, the books will be redundant, to a large extent, but each will share a little bit different info.)

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1609817

This site is about pH and how to measure it.  It is an easy
tutorial.  Make sure you read the entire site so you don't miss any important caveats, etc:

http://www.biomedx.com/pH/index.html

This is Dr. Tennant's site:

http://tennantinstitute.us/

Hope this knowledge blesses you greatly, Paul, (and All),
Diane

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Next question what is a good body voltage or bad one and if its bad what do
you do about it ?

puk

In a message dated 03/02/2012 14:26:31 GMT Standard Time, 
[hidden email] writes:

>As to the body voltage meters, sure, its fairly easy to modify a meter, 
get
>the wires and clamps, and make your own body voltage  meter.
Only tricky part is the grounding part. They recommend a rod in the 
ground.
This is a gray area...as some areas may be full of stray  current...so
literally hooking up your body to a grounding are that is  full of stray
current or voltage...they also recommend using a water pipe  to g
round....BAD IDEA> This could cause harm to you...in increasing  the inner
body voltage.

Please remember
this: body voltage is a 
measurement of the voltage in your
body RELATIVE to something. You can  measure it relative to anything you
want. In my opinion, it makes sense to  measure it relative to your
immediate
environment as that is what will be  acting on the electrons in your body.
In
a house or building, this usually  means measuring relative to the
building's
electrical ground EVEN IF that  ground is lousy. In a car, train, camper,
or
airplane, you could measure  relative to the metal frame of the vehicle.

If you measure relative to  something that is not in your immediate
environment, what good it that?  Imagine the silly extreme or measuring
relative to the bottom of the  ocean, or the moon. There is no point, as
those are not affecting the  electrons in your body.

Emil

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Ah...once again, EXCELLENT post!
Lizzie
 



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Thanks, Tim,

You write:  "For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms."

Well, it wasn't enough for me either, Tim.  I am an old member here, so I sometimes assume people know more about me and the therapies I have done than they do; I'm not "cured", but very much improved (ill my entire life, I went from pretty much completely bed-bound for 13 years to a normal life, except for avoidance tactics.  I don't know how new you are here; you may have read this a dozen times by now.  lol)  I haven't needed meters to get here, tho my symptoms were immediate enough to make me at least as sensitive as a meter.  ;)  I would love a hand-held pH blood meter!  (As far as I know these don't exist.  pH saliva/ urine meters do, for hundreds of dollars.)

I didn't mean to imply that one could get by totally by pH fine-tuning alone.  Removing or shielding from sources of emfs in and around your home is at least as important as pH.  (You will not be able to maintain proper pH without doing it.)  Eating a healthy sugar-free, organic, gluten-free, fresh, unprocessed diet is (at least!) as important for me, personally, and possibly more important than avoiding all emfs.  [And, of course, I could not maintain proper pH without doing that, either.]  Detoxing was essential, and supplementing various nutrients has been necessary, as well.  I use supplementation in order to maintain proper pH/cell voltage when I am out and about soaking up all those "free" emf rays.  ;)

I contacted Dr. Rae 6+ years ago, btw.  I think very highly of him and his clinic.  It is great that you could go there!  I was never an actual patient (I live in Pennsylvania), but I spoke with his nurse, then, Carolyn Gorman, at length on various occasions and she gave me great advice, at the time.  She got funding for me to come to the clinic at half price (actually more like a fourth--they were going to arrange housing for me also with a local family there), but Dr. Rae didn't want to see me until I moved--I had a mast cell flare-up as a result of pesticide poisoning and he wanted me in a cleaner environment before I started detox.  By the time I finally found a suitable house, I was doing better on my own.  It was due to them, however, that I began walking a lot by a white-water river nearby where I lived to "ground" myself.  That was an extremely helpful therapy for me!  A caution: this is great to do only if you are sure the area you are
walking in is, itself, free of ground currents.  Otherwise, you will take on emfs, instead of off-load them.  Also, I never recommend walking barefoot these days.  I use cotton socks with all leather moccasins.  Too many insects, ticks, fungi, bacteria, other things out there today to avoid.  

Blessings,
Diane

________________________________
From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Hi Diane,

Thank you for the insight!  I love elegant simple solutions. In my many previous explorations, I worked with body pH for a good while and studied the curezone site. For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms. It was only until I invested in a very sensitive meter to figure out where my greatest exposure is at work and home, that I've been able to reduce symptoms. The Cornet meters are relatively inexpensive and are sensitive enough for testing. The body voltage meter might be a cheap feedback device, but I don't have much experience with it yet.  I got a spendy Acoustimeter because I'm still working in a high EMR IT environment, and I need a very sensitive meter. Of course the cheapest solution is to avoid Wifi and cells, keep electrical devices away from you, and turn off devices at night. Avoidance is working for me too...

It certainly is a complex issue, and each of us can learn from others experiences. PH is a part of the puzzle... Diet, endocrine health, environment, grounding, detox, all too seem to be parts as well... If regulating pH is helping your EHS symptoms, consider that a blessing!  :-)  

I look forward to looking into Dr. Tennant's work. Unfortunately our library doesn't have his books, DOH!  

Tim

________________________________
From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

 
Hi Paul and All,

Since I am relatively low tech, cannot afford all the pricey meters, would likely need a course in using most of them, etc.....  I learned to deal with this issue from another angle.  [If you knew me personally you would find I am always working to find the easiest way to do what others claim can only be done their difficult and costly way.  lol]  

Instead of measuring for voltage, I measure for pH.  Because *cell* voltage and cell pH correspond to one another, adjusting one's pH will automatically adjust one's cell
voltage.  Measuring *body* voltage is subjective--it depends on what the voltage of your environment is.  pH/ *cell* voltage is a measurement of what your body's cells are.  For the most accurate pH reading you can get, you should have a pH blood test, but you can also "work" on your pH, fine-tuning it up or down (usually, you need to get more alkaline, which is "up") by using saliva and urine pH readings.  You can use also water pH test strips to test the alkalinity of your drinking water, as drinking highly acid water will add to the acidity of your body (most water sources these days tend to more acidity, due to all the pollutants/emfs in them.  This is why, for 2 years, I drank filtered alkalized water at pH 7.5 to 7.8.  Make sure you are using the proper strips to read these (water, saliva, urine) pHes.  All pH strips are not the same.  The easy to find ones are for testing soil!

Rather than spend all day writing to
explain this, I am sending sites.  It is a bit of reading, but it is your health we are talking about here.  You should consider the reading as a good investment.  (Comment intended for All, not Paul.)  I did not come to this information thru Dr. Tennant, btw.  I stumbled and bumbled my way to it (over decades) on my own.  However, rather than taking you thru my convoluted path to healing, I thought I'd share a short-cut.  ;)

This is an article written about Dr. Jerry Tennant's work, called, "Voltage: The Key to Rebuilding your Health".  If you do not "see" this article, write me and I will send the text by copy/ paste.  (Perhaps not soon--I am only online these days once a week.)  The book referenced is one of Dr. Tennant's books in his, "Healing is Voltage" line.  I recommend reading all of Dr. Tennant's books (and his site) which you can get your hands on, but at least read "Healing is Voltage: The Handbook" and/or "Healing is Voltage: The Textbook".  (And yes, the books will be redundant, to a large extent, but each will share a little bit different info.)

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1609817

This site is about pH and how to measure it.  It is an easy
tutorial.  Make sure you read the entire site so you don't miss any important caveats, etc:

http://www.biomedx.com/pH/index.html

This is Dr. Tennant's site:

http://tennantinstitute.us/

Hope this knowledge blesses you greatly, Paul, (and All),
Diane

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Next question what is a good body voltage or bad one and if its bad what do
you do about it ?

puk

In a message dated 03/02/2012 14:26:31 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

>As to the body voltage meters, sure, its fairly easy to modify a meter,  
get
>the wires and clamps, and make your own body voltage  meter.
Only tricky part is the grounding part. They recommend a rod in the  
ground.
This is a gray area...as some areas may be full of stray  current...so
literally hooking up your body to a grounding are that is  full of stray
current or voltage...they also recommend using a water pipe  to g
round....BAD IDEA> This could cause harm to you...in increasing  the inner
body voltage.

Please remember
this: body voltage is a
measurement of the voltage in your
body RELATIVE to something. You can  measure it relative to anything you
want. In my opinion, it makes sense to  measure it relative to your
immediate
environment as that is what will be  acting on the electrons in your body.
In
a house or building, this usually  means measuring relative to the
building's
electrical ground EVEN IF that  ground is lousy. In a car, train, camper,
or
airplane, you could measure  relative to the metal frame of the vehicle.

If you measure relative to  something that is not in your immediate
environment, what good it that?  Imagine the silly extreme or measuring
relative to the bottom of the  ocean, or the moon. There is no point, as
those are not affecting the  electrons in your body.

Emil

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Evie wrote:
> Instead of measuring for voltage, I measure for pH.  Because *cell* voltage and cell pH correspond to one another,
But, I doubt my pH goes up and down (immediately) with my proximity to
AC electric fields, which is what body voltage meters do reflect.

To measure the electric field of a building's wiring or equipment, it
still takes a meter.

Stewart

Elizabeth thode wrote:
> Yes, that's what it measures, electrical.
> I can pick up RF from people...I tend to get what I call a radiation burn if I touch
> someone who is a cell phone junkie. While some may think this is weird, it is what it is.
>  

Yes, you can actually have fun seeing what happens when you touch
others, or let them touch you, say like a hand on the shoulder.

Not dis-similar to touching electric cords which produce a much more
noticeable jump in measurements.

I still think there is a whole area here to study, as it remains
unexplained in my mind.

Stewart

 IF we could see the green glowing from radiation,
it might be easier for many to see the effects of touching something
literally radio active.
Me? I get a bad ache on whatever area of the body came into contact
with the source.  I also believe that the rate of sensitivity will be varied;
perhaps depending upon previous duration/proximity to radiation exposures.
Probably similiar to that of electrical pollution exposures.
 I still think there is a whole area here to study, as it remains
unexplained in my mind.
Like that nagging thought or red light, in the back of our minds,
we know there is something there, much like the police
using those chemicals to make visible dried blood- we just need
to find the tool to bring this out and make it visible/measurable.
 
Something tells me you will find a way to measure this.
Please keep us/me posted on what you find.
Lizzie



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:13:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea


 



Elizabeth thode wrote:
> Yes, that's what it measures, electrical.
> I can pick up RF from people...I tend to get what I call a radiation burn if I touch
> someone who is a cell phone junkie. While some may think this is weird, it is what it is.
>

Yes, you can actually have fun seeing what happens when you touch
others, or let them touch you, say like a hand on the shoulder.

Not dis-similar to touching electric cords which produce a much more
noticeable jump in measurements.

I still think there is a whole area here to study, as it remains
unexplained in my mind.

Stewart




     

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I'm with you, Stewart and others who are trying to wrap our minds around this... So there's a physical effect to electrical fields that can be measured by body voltage. What's going on with RF then, since it's not reflected in body voltage?

I found this site that gives some insight into non-thermal effects on calcium and potassium and membranes...

http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/niemr/resonance1.php

Tim



________________________________
 From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea
 

 

IF we could see the green glowing from radiation,
it might be easier for many to see the effects of touching something
literally radio active.
Me? I get a bad ache on whatever area of the body came into contact
with the source.  I also believe that the rate of sensitivity will be varied;
perhaps depending upon previous duration/proximity to radiation exposures.
Probably similiar to that of electrical pollution exposures.
I still think there is a whole area here to study, as it remains
unexplained in my mind.
Like that nagging thought or red light, in the back of our minds,
we know there is something there, much like the police
using those chemicals to make visible dried blood- we just need
to find the tool to bring this out and make it visible/measurable.

Something tells me you will find a way to measure this.
Please keep us/me posted on what you find.
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:13:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Elizabeth thode wrote:
> Yes, that's what it measures, electrical.
> I can pick up RF from people...I tend to get what I call a radiation burn if I touch
> someone who is a cell phone junkie. While some may think this is weird, it is what it is.
>

Yes, you can actually have fun seeing what happens when you touch
others, or let them touch you, say like a hand on the shoulder.

Not dis-similar to touching electric cords which produce a much more
noticeable jump in measurements.

I still think there is a whole area here to study, as it remains
unexplained in my mind.

Stewart



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Right on sister!  :-)


I like the onion analogy too, and it's very true. This is a condition that took time to manifest, and it will take time to uncover and find out what it takes to heal the body... To bring balance to the "Force" again! 


Onward,

Tim



________________________________
 From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea
 

 

Think of all these as pieces of a giant puzzle Tim.
They will all fit together, one way or another. The key will be unique to the circumstances. Where PH plays a role in all health, is PH is sort of like an oxygen counter.
The more  oxygen that gets into the cells, the healthier the cells will be.
You are correct in that this is a multi factor issue. Finding the biggest offender/assaulters to your unique circumstances is key.
Then it's just a matter of filling in the other puzzle pieces. Because those seemingly little pieces?
Aren't so little as you will find out, if ya haven't already.
You've got a great attitude, and that right there, is your best tool.
I liken this to the layers of an onion, or stripping away layers of old wall paper.
EAch layer reveals a mystery to be solved.
And my thanks to EVERYONE on here for all your valuable contributions!
Keep em  coming in .....the old wallpapers coming off and we are finding answers and solutions.
Victories our are's for the taking!
Lizzie


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From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:30:18 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Hi Diane,

Thank you for the insight!  I love elegant simple solutions. In my many previous explorations, I worked with body pH for a good while and studied the curezone site. For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms. It was only until I invested in a very sensitive meter to figure out where my greatest exposure is at work and home, that I've been able to reduce symptoms. The Cornet meters are relatively inexpensive and are sensitive enough for testing. The body voltage meter might be a cheap feedback device, but I don't have much experience with it yet.  I got a spendy Acoustimeter because I'm still working in a high EMR IT environment, and I need a very sensitive meter. Of course the cheapest solution is to avoid Wifi and cells, keep electrical devices away from you, and turn off devices at night. Avoidance is working for me too...

It certainly is a complex issue, and each of us can learn from others experiences. PH is a part of the puzzle... Diet, endocrine health, environment, grounding, detox, all too seem to be parts as well... If regulating pH is helping your EHS symptoms, consider that a blessing!  :-)

I look forward to looking into Dr. Tennant's work. Unfortunately our library doesn't have his books, DOH!

Tim

________________________________
From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Hi Paul and All,

Since I am relatively low tech, cannot afford all the pricey meters, would likely need a course in using most of them, etc.....  I learned to deal with this issue from another angle.  [If you knew me personally you would find I am always working to find the easiest way to do what others claim can only be done their difficult and costly way.  lol]

Instead of measuring for voltage, I measure for pH.  Because *cell* voltage and cell pH correspond to one another, adjusting one's pH will automatically adjust one's cell
voltage.  Measuring *body* voltage is subjective--it depends on what the voltage of your environment is.  pH/ *cell* voltage is a measurement of what your body's cells are.  For the most accurate pH reading you can get, you should have a pH blood test, but you can also "work" on your pH, fine-tuning it up or down (usually, you need to get more alkaline, which is "up") by using saliva and urine pH readings.  You can use also water pH test strips to test the alkalinity of your drinking water, as drinking highly acid water will add to the acidity of your body (most water sources these days tend to more acidity, due to all the pollutants/emfs in them.  This is why, for 2 years, I drank filtered alkalized water at pH 7.5 to 7.8.  Make sure you are using the proper strips to read these (water, saliva, urine) pHes.  All pH strips are not the same.  The easy to find ones are for testing soil!

Rather than spend all day writing to
explain this, I am sending sites.  It is a bit of reading, but it is your health we are talking about here.  You should consider the reading as a good investment.  (Comment intended for All, not Paul.)  I did not come to this information thru Dr. Tennant, btw.  I stumbled and bumbled my way to it (over decades) on my own.  However, rather than taking you thru my convoluted path to healing, I thought I'd share a short-cut.  ;)

This is an article written about Dr. Jerry Tennant's work, called, "Voltage: The Key to Rebuilding your Health".  If you do not "see" this article, write me and I will send the text by copy/ paste.  (Perhaps not soon--I am only online these days once a week.)  The book referenced is one of Dr. Tennant's books in his, "Healing is Voltage" line.  I recommend reading all of Dr. Tennant's books (and his site) which you can get your hands on, but at least read "Healing is Voltage: The Handbook" and/or "Healing is Voltage: The Textbook".  (And yes, the books will be redundant, to a large extent, but each will share a little bit different info.)

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1609817

This site is about pH and how to measure it.  It is an easy
tutorial.  Make sure you read the entire site so you don't miss any important caveats, etc:

http://www.biomedx.com/pH/index.html

This is Dr. Tennant's site:

http://tennantinstitute.us/

Hope this knowledge blesses you greatly, Paul, (and All),
Diane

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Next question what is a good body voltage or bad one and if its bad what do
you do about it ?

puk

In a message dated 03/02/2012 14:26:31 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

>As to the body voltage meters, sure, its fairly easy to modify a meter,
get
>the wires and clamps, and make your own body voltage  meter.
Only tricky part is the grounding part. They recommend a rod in the
ground.
This is a gray area...as some areas may be full of stray  current...so
literally hooking up your body to a grounding are that is  full of stray
current or voltage...they also recommend using a water pipe  to g
round....BAD IDEA> This could cause harm to you...in increasing  the inner
body voltage.

Please remember
this: body voltage is a
measurement of the voltage in your
body RELATIVE to something. You can  measure it relative to anything you
want. In my opinion, it makes sense to  measure it relative to your
immediate
environment as that is what will be  acting on the electrons in your body.
In
a house or building, this usually  means measuring relative to the
building's
electrical ground EVEN IF that  ground is lousy. In a car, train, camper,
or
airplane, you could measure  relative to the metal frame of the vehicle.

If you measure relative to  something that is not in your immediate
environment, what good it that?  Imagine the silly extreme or measuring
relative to the bottom of the  ocean, or the moon. There is no point, as
those are not affecting the  electrons in your body.

Emil

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Hi Diane,


Thank you so much for sharing that!  I know it's been a hard road for many in this forum... How ironic that we meet using the same technology that causes us problems!  Gotta love irony!  Who says that God, The Universe, Yoda, or whatever you want to call it, doesn't have a sense of humor! 

Yes, I'm a newbie and am rapidly catching up!  Repetition is a good way to learn, so I think in sharing our stories and experiences, it helps to connect the dots.


Many moons ago I bought a pH meter for testing. It cost about $100, and it takes a bit of maintenance. I prefer pH paper for urine that's cheap and can be found at health food stores...  I think once you've figured out what's the dominant factor(s) causing your symptoms, pH, diet, detox and all these other important co-factors are imperative in healing and repair. What I found was that nothing I did helped my symptoms until I figured out Wifi was behind them. Well, Wifi's not going to be a factor in the equation for much longer, thank you!  I'll do what it takes to get my health back...


Yes, I believe Dr. Rae is doing some marvelous help for people, although I don't understand the antigen therapy... What a gift he offered you...


I went shopping for "grounded" shoes again this evening (second strike), and you should have seen the expression on the sales lady's face when I asked if they had a leather soled shoe!  It could have been a "priceless" Mastercard commercial. :-)

Tim






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Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 7:12 AM
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Thanks, Tim,

You write:  "For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms."

Well, it wasn't enough for me either, Tim.  I am an old member here, so I sometimes assume people know more about me and the therapies I have done than they do; I'm not "cured", but very much improved (ill my entire life, I went from pretty much completely bed-bound for 13 years to a normal life, except for avoidance tactics.  I don't know how new you are here; you may have read this a dozen times by now.  lol)  I haven't needed meters to get here, tho my symptoms were immediate enough to make me at least as sensitive as a meter.  ;)  I would love a hand-held pH blood meter!  (As far as I know these don't exist.  pH saliva/ urine meters do, for hundreds of dollars.)

I didn't mean to imply that one could get by totally by pH fine-tuning alone.  Removing or shielding from sources of emfs in and around your home is at least as important as pH.  (You will not be able to maintain proper pH without doing it.)  Eating a healthy sugar-free, organic, gluten-free, fresh, unprocessed diet is (at least!) as important for me, personally, and possibly more important than avoiding all emfs.  [And, of course, I could not maintain proper pH without doing that, either.]  Detoxing was essential, and supplementing various nutrients has been necessary, as well.  I use supplementation in order to maintain proper pH/cell voltage when I am out and about soaking up all those "free" emf rays.  ;)

I contacted Dr. Rae 6+ years ago, btw.  I think very highly of him and his clinic.  It is great that you could go there!  I was never an actual patient (I live in Pennsylvania), but I spoke with his nurse, then, Carolyn Gorman, at length on various occasions and she gave me great advice, at the time.  She got funding for me to come to the clinic at half price (actually more like a fourth--they were going to arrange housing for me also with a local family there), but Dr. Rae didn't want to see me until I moved--I had a mast cell flare-up as a result of pesticide poisoning and he wanted me in a cleaner environment before I started detox.  By the time I finally found a suitable house, I was doing better on my own.  It was due to them, however, that I began walking a lot by a white-water river nearby where I lived to "ground" myself.  That was an extremely helpful therapy for me!  A caution: this is great to do only if you are sure the area you are
walking in is, itself, free of ground currents.  Otherwise, you will take on emfs, instead of off-load them.  Also, I never recommend walking barefoot these days.  I use cotton socks with all leather moccasins.  Too many insects, ticks, fungi, bacteria, other things out there today to avoid. 

Blessings,
Diane

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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 6:30 PM
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Hi Diane,

Thank you for the insight!  I love elegant simple solutions. In my many previous explorations, I worked with body pH for a good while and studied the curezone site. For me, regulating pH and diet wasn't enough to reduce my symptoms. It was only until I invested in a very sensitive meter to figure out where my greatest exposure is at work and home, that I've been able to reduce symptoms. The Cornet meters are relatively inexpensive and are sensitive enough for testing. The body voltage meter might be a cheap feedback device, but I don't have much experience with it yet.  I got a spendy Acoustimeter because I'm still working in a high EMR IT environment, and I need a very sensitive meter. Of course the cheapest solution is to avoid Wifi and cells, keep electrical devices away from you, and turn off devices at night. Avoidance is working for me too...

It certainly is a complex issue, and each of us can learn from others experiences. PH is a part of the puzzle... Diet, endocrine health, environment, grounding, detox, all too seem to be parts as well... If regulating pH is helping your EHS symptoms, consider that a blessing!  :-) 

I look forward to looking into Dr. Tennant's work. Unfortunately our library doesn't have his books, DOH! 

Tim

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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

 
Hi Paul and All,

Since I am relatively low tech, cannot afford all the pricey meters, would likely need a course in using most of them, etc.....  I learned to deal with this issue from another angle.  [If you knew me personally you would find I am always working to find the easiest way to do what others claim can only be done their difficult and costly way.  lol] 

Instead of measuring for voltage, I measure for pH.  Because *cell* voltage and cell pH correspond to one another, adjusting one's pH will automatically adjust one's cell
voltage.  Measuring *body* voltage is subjective--it depends on what the voltage of your environment is.  pH/ *cell* voltage is a measurement of what your body's cells are.  For the most accurate pH reading you can get, you should have a pH blood test, but you can also "work" on your pH, fine-tuning it up or down (usually, you need to get more alkaline, which is "up") by using saliva and urine pH readings.  You can use also water pH test strips to test the alkalinity of your drinking water, as drinking highly acid water will add to the acidity of your body (most water sources these days tend to more acidity, due to all the pollutants/emfs in them.  This is why, for 2 years, I drank filtered alkalized water at pH 7.5 to 7.8.  Make sure you are using the proper strips to read these (water, saliva, urine) pHes.  All pH strips are not the same.  The easy to find ones are for testing soil!

Rather than spend all day writing to
explain this, I am sending sites.  It is a bit of reading, but it is your health we are talking about here.  You should consider the reading as a good investment.  (Comment intended for All, not Paul.)  I did not come to this information thru Dr. Tennant, btw.  I stumbled and bumbled my way to it (over decades) on my own.  However, rather than taking you thru my convoluted path to healing, I thought I'd share a short-cut.  ;)

This is an article written about Dr. Jerry Tennant's work, called, "Voltage: The Key to Rebuilding your Health".  If you do not "see" this article, write me and I will send the text by copy/ paste.  (Perhaps not soon--I am only online these days once a week.)  The book referenced is one of Dr. Tennant's books in his, "Healing is Voltage" line.  I recommend reading all of Dr. Tennant's books (and his site) which you can get your hands on, but at least read "Healing is Voltage: The Handbook" and/or "Healing is Voltage: The Textbook".  (And yes, the books will be redundant, to a large extent, but each will share a little bit different info.)

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1609817

This site is about pH and how to measure it.  It is an easy
tutorial.  Make sure you read the entire site so you don't miss any important caveats, etc:

http://www.biomedx.com/pH/index.html

This is Dr. Tennant's site:

http://tennantinstitute.us/

Hope this knowledge blesses you greatly, Paul, (and All),
Diane

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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Insights from Dr. Rea

Next question what is a good body voltage or bad one and if its bad what do
you do about it ?

puk

In a message dated 03/02/2012 14:26:31 GMT Standard Time, 
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>As to the body voltage meters, sure, its fairly easy to modify a meter, 
get
>the wires and clamps, and make your own body voltage  meter.
Only tricky part is the grounding part. They recommend a rod in the 
ground.
This is a gray area...as some areas may be full of stray  current...so
literally hooking up your body to a grounding are that is  full of stray
current or voltage...they also recommend using a water pipe  to g
round....BAD IDEA> This could cause harm to you...in increasing  the inner
body voltage.

Please remember
this: body voltage is a 
measurement of the voltage in your
body RELATIVE to something. You can  measure it relative to anything you
want. In my opinion, it makes sense to  measure it relative to your
immediate
environment as that is what will be  acting on the electrons in your body.
In
a house or building, this usually  means measuring relative to the
building's
electrical ground EVEN IF that  ground is lousy. In a car, train, camper,
or
airplane, you could measure  relative to the metal frame of the vehicle.

If you measure relative to  something that is not in your immediate
environment, what good it that?  Imagine the silly extreme or measuring
relative to the bottom of the  ocean, or the moon. There is no point, as
those are not affecting the  electrons in your body.

Emil

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