Inflammation Connection

>
> > Anyhow, I wish one could know whether the bad feeling from these
> > protective things were short term detox or not good long run.
>
> Yes, that is often a hard decision to make -- is the device causing
> a (good) detox reaction, or is it harmful?
>
> Sometimes, I find that a detox reaction is preceding by briefly
> feeling unusually good.  Or I may have nausea or a headache
> (detox) while simultaneously feeling more strong/energetic.
>
> Detox reactions tend to diminish over time, so if you can increase
> your tolerance to something over time, then the initial reaction
> was likely a detox reaction.
>
> Harmful items just seem to get more and more harmful, and your
> tolerance for them decreases to zero.
>
> But certainly in the past I have NOT followed my own advice, and
> have had terrible initial reactions to items and immediately got
> rid of them before determining if I could ever build a tolerance
> to them.
>
> Marc
>

>
> > Also I'm in SA, so anything I want to try, I have to import (including
> > those supplements).
>
> Ahh, well I once was importing compounded Alpha Lipoic Acid in tiny
> doses from an online place in South Africa, so at least you have
> easy access to that.  :-)
>
> Marc
>

>
> Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
>
> I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -  
>
> Inflammation Connection
>
> Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
> remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
>
> I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
>
> I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
> controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
>
> While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
>
> I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
> neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
>
> Take a look at some of the links below.  (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.)  These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
>
> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
> Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
> Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
> This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system – bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier – to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
> -------------------
>
> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
> Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
> ======
> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
> burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
> ========
>
> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
>
> ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
>
> Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione—the brain's master antioxidant. ...
>
> ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
> ---------------------
>
> If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
>
> I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
>
> Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
>
> Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
> www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf  
>
> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
> Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
>
> What else do any of you use for inflammation?
> I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
>
> ~ Snoshoe
>

>
> Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
>
> I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -  
>
> Inflammation Connection
>
> Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
> remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
>
> I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
>
> I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
> controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
>
> While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
>
> I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
> neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
>
> Take a look at some of the links below.  (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.)  These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
>
> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
> Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
> Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
> This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system – bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier – to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
> -------------------
>
> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
> Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
> ======
> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
> burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
> ========
>
> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
>
> ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
>
> Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione—the brain's master antioxidant. ...
>
> ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
> ---------------------
>
> If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
>
> I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
>
> Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
>
> Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
> www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf  
>
> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
> Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
>
> What else do any of you use for inflammation?
> I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
>
> ~ Snoshoe
>

>
> Hi, Kooky,
>  
> Thanks for this info.  I appreciate your writing it.  I don't know if it was Stephen or who?  Someone recently wrote that one cannot have inflammation if their voltage/pH is correct.  I've been mulling this over since reading that post.  I don't think this was true of me!  I showed signs of inflammation even when my pH has been in the correct zone.  According to doctors I have seen, I literally always show inflammation markers on various blood tests (just not as bad sometimes).  And I have been this way my entire life, no matter what my state of health has been.  Of course, it could be said my body has been in a constant state of repair.  [Cd could cause a condition of constant disease and repair.]  According to the pH and voltage theory, tho, my pH should have constantly been 7.5 or above--too alkaline.  But I know this was not the case. 
>  
> I understand the pH and voltage connection to inflammation in theory, but I can think of times in my life when I doubt this theory holded true.  I am not sure I wrote this in a way others will understand what I mean.  If it doesn't make sense, ask and I will try to write it more coherently.  lol  My blood tests fluctuate, but I never show NO inflammation.  Are all people like this here?  Yet sometimes I am ill and I am aware it is not good inflammation (I imagine what you eluded to, Kooky, is taking place--pro-oxidants, etc.)  But am I right that blood tests do not show the entire story: whether the inflammation that exists is healing which is festering rather than doing the entire job of healing, and other times the healing is on-going healing which is actually working (still reading as inflammation)? 
>  
> Thanks again, Kooky
> --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Kooky <furstc0404@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kooky <furstc0404@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 6:02 PM
>
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>  
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>
> Came across a paper a couple of days ago.  It was about abherant response to external stimuli, toxins, meds, etc.  even at very low safe level.  Its worrying because I react to everything around me,  airpollution of all kinds, insect bites, chemicals, meds, foodsc - very low threshold of tolerance, manifesting in various severe symptoms.
>
> It could be that concerning EMF/ES, we are having the same type of abherant reactions, even to low level exposure.
>
> In regards to inflammation, its not the type of cutaneous reaction we get with a cut, or fever fighting off an infection. The mechanism starting with oxidization of endothelial cells, through various mechanism,  to cause inflammation.  It can manifest in various ways and differs for each person. 
>
> From all I read, slow detoxing with chelators such as charcola, over a long period of time, and anti-oxidants are suppose to help.  Unfortunately for many, anti-oxidants turn into pro-oxidants and can cause even more damage with free radicals.
>
> Methylation is important, to start before detoxing if possible.  Or detoxing may not be achievable for some.
>
> For instance, to get rid of excess amonia, Arginine is supposed to help taken with ornithine, but then, if you have a problem with urea, those are contraiindicated, in which case, citrulline would help first with excess uric acid.  Its complicated, because, health issues are individual, even though it culminates in inflammation. 
>
> Info on how to halt or reverse inflammation much appreciated.
>
> Kooky
>
> --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 4:04 PM
>
>  
>
> Hey Steph!  And Steve,
>
>  
>
> I had/ have these, too.  I should think the majority of people with ES would also have these.  I have mainly conquered the fibro dragon successfully.  I still deal some with the lymph congestion, but detoxing over time has been really helpful.  Especially, last year, detoxing my bone marrow thru homeopathy helped a lot (but, as always, I caution on this because most homeopaths have no comprehension how much we will detox with a particular remedy.  (too much detox=trouble)  I used one drop only of bone marrow remedy.  I was really ill from detoxing for nearly 2 months.
>
>  
>
> Snoshoe has mentioned inflammation in the past as being a particular problem for her.  I know I have it, but don't have a good handle on what is its underlying cause.  [Stored metals, toxins, aberrant flora, liver damage/ all of the above???]  I know I have it because my cholesterol is thru the roof and always has been.  For me personally, tho, I have been improving with time, with slight ongoing setbacks.  I know that something could knock me back at any time (and has many times), but hopefully I will learn how to overcome the setbacks, as well as I have in the past.  But we (especially as a group) tend to balance somewhat precariously, even those of us who have had alot of success dealing with ES.  My hope is the longer we can personally accomplish maintaining a better healthful balance, the better we will come at overcoming setbacks.  Can we do this quickly enough to adapt to all the new toxins/ emfs/ parasites/ stressors thrown at us by
>
> modern living?  I hope we can learn to. 
>
>  
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Diane
>
> --- On Sat, 10/9/10, Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
>
> From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@...>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
>
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 8:15 AM
>
>  
>
> Hi Steve
>
> I also have inflammation, problems with lymph glands and fibromyalgia - what
>
> luck (not) LOL!!
>
> Thanks for posting these remedies - I will check them out and see if they might
>
> also help me. I am taking fish oils, but do you think the Wobenzym N helps much
>
> with drainage and where do you get it from? Have you tried dry skin brushing for
>
> lymphatic drainage?
>
> BW
>
> Steph
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
>
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Sent: Fri, 8 October, 2010 23:16:32
>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
>
>  
>
> Inflammation is definitely a problem, The last week has been hell because added
>
> to my inflammation (I have fibromyalgia) my lymph glands got all congested and
>
> my hand and wrist swelled up very painfully. A hand doc also said I had a
>
> calcium deposit there. I had to resort to a cortisone shot and took aleve for a
>
> few days (and I hate taking drugs).
>
> For inflammation and also supposedly good for drainage I take Wobenzym N, which
>
> is sytemic enzymes. Fish Oils help somewhat also. I am trying to drain my lymph
>
> glands with an herb called cleavers, and I will add golden seal tonight.
>
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>
> Hi, Kooky,
>  
> Thanks for this info.  I appreciate your writing it.  I don't know if it was Stephen or who?  Someone recently wrote that one cannot have inflammation if their voltage/pH is correct.  I've been mulling this over since reading that post.  I don't think this was true of me!  I showed signs of inflammation even when my pH has been in the correct zone.  According to doctors I have seen, I literally always show inflammation markers on various blood tests (just not as bad sometimes).  And I have been this way my entire life, no matter what my state of health has been.  Of course, it could be said my body has been in a constant state of repair.  [Cd could cause a condition of constant disease and repair.]  According to the pH and voltage theory, tho, my pH should have constantly been 7.5 or above--too alkaline.  But I know this was not the case. 
>  
> I understand the pH and voltage connection to inflammation in theory, but I can think of times in my life when I doubt this theory holded true.  I am not sure I wrote this in a way others will understand what I mean.  If it doesn't make sense, ask and I will try to write it more coherently.  lol  My blood tests fluctuate, but I never show NO inflammation.  Are all people like this here?  Yet sometimes I am ill and I am aware it is not good inflammation (I imagine what you eluded to, Kooky, is taking place--pro-oxidants, etc.)  But am I right that blood tests do not show the entire story: whether the inflammation that exists is healing which is festering rather than doing the entire job of healing, and other times the healing is on-going healing which is actually working (still reading as inflammation)? 
>  
> Thanks again, Kooky
> --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Kooky <furstc0404@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kooky <furstc0404@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 6:02 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Came across a paper a couple of days ago.  It was about abherant response to external stimuli, toxins, meds, etc.  even at very low safe level.  Its worrying because I react to everything around me,  airpollution of all kinds, insect bites, chemicals, meds, foodsc - very low threshold of tolerance, manifesting in various severe symptoms.
>
> It could be that concerning EMF/ES, we are having the same type of abherant reactions, even to low level exposure.
>
> In regards to inflammation, its not the type of cutaneous reaction we get with a cut, or fever fighting off an infection. The mechanism starting with oxidization of endothelial cells, through various mechanism,  to cause inflammation.  It can manifest in various ways and differs for each person. 
>
> From all I read, slow detoxing with chelators such as charcola, over a long period of time, and anti-oxidants are suppose to help.  Unfortunately for many, anti-oxidants turn into pro-oxidants and can cause even more damage with free radicals.
>
> Methylation is important, to start before detoxing if possible.  Or detoxing may not be achievable for some.
>
> For instance, to get rid of excess amonia, Arginine is supposed to help taken with ornithine, but then, if you have a problem with urea, those are contraiindicated, in which case, citrulline would help first with excess uric acid.  Its complicated, because, health issues are individual, even though it culminates in inflammation. 
>
> Info on how to halt or reverse inflammation much appreciated.
>
> Kooky
>
> --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 4:04 PM
>
>  
>
> Hey Steph!  And Steve,
>
>  
>
> I had/ have these, too.  I should think the majority of people with ES would also have these.  I have mainly conquered the fibro dragon successfully.  I still deal some with the lymph congestion, but detoxing over time has been really helpful.  Especially, last year, detoxing my bone marrow thru homeopathy helped a lot (but, as always, I caution on this because most homeopaths have no comprehension how much we will detox with a particular remedy.  (too much detox=trouble)  I used one drop only of bone marrow remedy.  I was really ill from detoxing for nearly 2 months.
>
>  
>
> Snoshoe has mentioned inflammation in the past as being a particular problem for her.  I know I have it, but don't have a good handle on what is its underlying cause.  [Stored metals, toxins, aberrant flora, liver damage/ all of the above???]  I know I have it because my cholesterol is thru the roof and always has been.  For me personally, tho, I have been improving with time, with slight ongoing setbacks.  I know that something could knock me back at any time (and has many times), but hopefully I will learn how to overcome the setbacks, as well as I have in the past.  But we (especially as a group) tend to balance somewhat precariously, even those of us who have had alot of success dealing with ES.  My hope is the longer we can personally accomplish maintaining a better healthful balance, the better we will come at overcoming setbacks.  Can we do this quickly enough to adapt to all the new toxins/ emfs/ parasites/

>
> modern living?  I hope we can learn to. 
>
>  
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Diane
>
> --- On Sat, 10/9/10, Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
>
> From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@...>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
>
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 8:15 AM
>
>  
>
> Hi Steve
>
> I also have inflammation, problems with lymph glands and fibromyalgia - what
>
> luck (not) LOL!!
>
> Thanks for posting these remedies - I will check them out and see if they might
>
> also help me. I am taking fish oils, but do you think the Wobenzym N helps much
>
> with drainage and where do you get it from? Have you tried dry skin brushing for
>
> lymphatic drainage?
>
> BW
>
> Steph
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
>
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Sent: Fri, 8 October, 2010 23:16:32
>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
>
>  
>
> Inflammation is definitely a problem, The last week has been hell because added
>
> to my inflammation (I have fibromyalgia) my lymph glands got all congested and
>
> my hand and wrist swelled up very painfully. A hand doc also said I had a
>
> calcium deposit there. I had to resort to a cortisone shot and took aleve for a
>
> few days (and I hate taking drugs).
>
> For inflammation and also supposedly good for drainage I take Wobenzym N, which
>
> is sytemic enzymes. Fish Oils help somewhat also. I am trying to drain my lymph
>
> glands with an herb called cleavers, and I will add golden seal tonight.
>
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> Some thoughts here on inflammation, I'm definitely not a specialist on this matter,
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> What I've read in Tennant's book, inflammation is always a high (local) pH (or too much negative voltage). Inflammation is necessary for healing. For instance when you hit your thumb with a hammer, your thumb will be inflamed. Your thumb will become more alkaline = more negative voltage = more oxygen = more cells to recover your thumb...
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> Althus I suppose short term inflammation can be perfect for healing, long term inflammation of a body part/... could be a problem.
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> I'm wondering when or how somebody diagnoses himself as having inflammation?!
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> For instance joint pains, headaches,... These are not always causes of inflammation. According to Tennant pain is always related to a not-perfect pH (or voltage). So 2 possibilities:
> -inflammation = too alkaline = too much negative voltage
> -degeneration = too acid = too little negative voltage
>
> Stephen.
>
>
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>
> --- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
> >
> > I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -  
> >
> > Inflammation Connection
> >
> > Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
> > remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
> >
> > I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
> >
> > I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
> > controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
> >
> > While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
> >
> > I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
> > neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
> >
> > Take a look at some of the links below.  (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.)  These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
> >
> > http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
> > Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
> > Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
> > This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system – bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier – to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
> > -------------------
> >
> > http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
> > Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
> > ======
> > http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
> > burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
> > ========
> >
> > http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
> >
> > ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
> >
> > Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione—the brain's master antioxidant. ...
> >
> > ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
> > ---------------------
> >
> > If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
> >
> > I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
> >
> > Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
> > http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
> >
> > Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
> > www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf  
> >
> > http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
> > Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
> >
> > What else do any of you use for inflammation?
> > I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
> >
> > ~ Snoshoe
> >
>

>
>
> Hello,
>
> I've been looking up some inflammation stuff lately, and I came across this post from last year from snoshoe. Immune dysfunction and inflammation has been mentioned in several EMF and health papers, such as this one on EMFs and the central nervous system/immune cells in brain:
> www.jneuroinflammation.com/content/pdf/1742-2094-7-54.pdf
>
> and this one from Olle Johansson:
> www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf
>
> I was just wondering if any people here have had intensive immune system tests, that for example check the levels of cytokines (immune system messengers), which could show if there are a pro-dominance of proinflammatory cytokines and thus inflammation problems. Some examples I came across online, but haven't looked into:
>
> http://neuroendoimmune.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/134/
>
> http://www.randox.com/cytokines.php 
>
> I'd be interested if electrosensitive people have chronic low level inflammation and how EMFs impact on things.
>
> Sean.
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote:
>>
>> Some thoughts here on inflammation, I'm definitely not a specialist on this matter,
>>
>> What I've read in Tennant's book, inflammation is always a high (local) pH (or too much negative voltage). Inflammation is necessary for healing. For instance when you hit your thumb with a hammer, your thumb will be inflamed. Your thumb will become more alkaline = more negative voltage = more oxygen = more cells to recover your thumb...
>>
>> Althus I suppose short term inflammation can be perfect for healing, long term inflammation of a body part/... could be a problem.
>>
>> I'm wondering when or how somebody diagnoses himself as having inflammation?!
>>
>> For instance joint pains, headaches,... These are not always causes of inflammation. According to Tennant pain is always related to a not-perfect pH (or voltage). So 2 possibilities:
>> -inflammation = too alkaline = too much negative voltage
>> -degeneration = too acid = too little negative voltage
>>
>> Stephen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
>>>
>>> I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -  
>>>
>>> Inflammation Connection
>>>
>>> Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
>>> remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
>>>
>>> I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
>>>
>>> I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
>>> controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
>>>
>>> While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
>>>
>>> I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
>>> neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
>>>
>>> Take a look at some of the links below.  (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.)  These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
>>>
>>> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
>>> Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
>>> Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
>>> This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system – bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier – to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
>>> -------------------
>>>
>>> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
>>> Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
>>> ======
>>> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
>>> burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
>>> ========
>>>
>>> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
>>>
>>> ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
>>>
>>> Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione—the brain's master antioxidant. ...
>>>
>>> ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
>>>
>>> I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
>>>
>>> Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
>>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
>>>
>>> Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
>>> www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf  
>>>
>>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
>>> Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
>>>
>>> What else do any of you use for inflammation?
>>> I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
>>>
>>> ~ Snoshoe
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> I am with you on this. I believe there is an immune response associated with my ES. I am going through a total redo of my diet (no-gluten, little to no grain, low-no sugar) to heal the gut/brain relationship and stop the auto-immune/inflammation reaction.
> DNA tests came back that I was celiac and will be taking another test soon regarding auto-immune responses. Test isn't available yet. When it is, I'll let you know.
> Aluminum and other crap screws up the histamine response/immune system as well as vaccine ingredients (squaline adjuvants, etc.)
> Chicken and egg sometimes as to the original causative factor.
> Just trying to pull out of the nose drive.
> It seems like I get more sensitive when I reintroduce some factors back into the equation. My body is trying to tell me something but I don't know what other than get away from everything.
> Andrew
>
> On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:12 PM, seandaly33 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've been looking up some inflammation stuff lately, and I came across this post from last year from snoshoe. Immune dysfunction and inflammation has been mentioned in several EMF and health papers, such as this one on EMFs and the central nervous system/immune cells in brain:
> > www.jneuroinflammation.com/content/pdf/1742-2094-7-54.pdf
> >
> > and this one from Olle Johansson:
> > www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf
> >
> > I was just wondering if any people here have had intensive immune system tests, that for example check the levels of cytokines (immune system messengers), which could show if there are a pro-dominance of proinflammatory cytokines and thus inflammation problems. Some examples I came across online, but haven't looked into:
> >
> > http://neuroendoimmune.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/134/
> >
> > http://www.randox.com/cytokines.php 
> >
> > I'd be interested if electrosensitive people have chronic low level inflammation and how EMFs impact on things.
> >
> > Sean.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some thoughts here on inflammation, I'm definitely not a specialist on this matter,
> >>
> >> What I've read in Tennant's book, inflammation is always a high (local) pH (or too much negative voltage). Inflammation is necessary for healing. For instance when you hit your thumb with a hammer, your thumb will be inflamed. Your thumb will become more alkaline = more negative voltage = more oxygen = more cells to recover your thumb...
> >>
> >> Althus I suppose short term inflammation can be perfect for healing, long term inflammation of a body part/... could be a problem.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering when or how somebody diagnoses himself as having inflammation?!
> >>
> >> For instance joint pains, headaches,... These are not always causes of inflammation. According to Tennant pain is always related to a not-perfect pH (or voltage). So 2 possibilities:
> >> -inflammation = too alkaline = too much negative voltage
> >> -degeneration = too acid = too little negative voltage
> >>
> >> Stephen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
> >>>
> >>> I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -  
> >>>
> >>> Inflammation Connection
> >>>
> >>> Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
> >>> remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
> >>>
> >>> I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
> >>>
> >>> I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
> >>> controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
> >>>
> >>> While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
> >>>
> >>> I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
> >>> neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
> >>>
> >>> Take a look at some of the links below.  (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.)  These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
> >>>
> >>> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
> >>> Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
> >>> Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
> >>> This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system – bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier – to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
> >>> -------------------
> >>>
> >>> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
> >>> Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
> >>> ======
> >>> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
> >>> burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
> >>> ========
> >>>
> >>> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
> >>>
> >>> ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
> >>>
> >>> Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione—the brain's master antioxidant. ...
> >>>
> >>> ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
> >>> ---------------------
> >>>
> >>> If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
> >>>
> >>> I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
> >>>
> >>> Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
> >>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
> >>>
> >>> Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
> >>> www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf  
> >>>
> >>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
> >>> Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
> >>>
> >>> What else do any of you use for inflammation?
> >>> I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
> >>>
> >>> ~ Snoshoe
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> I am with you on this. I believe there is an immune response associated with my ES. I am going through a total redo of my diet (no-gluten, little to no grain, low-no sugar) to heal the gut/brain relationship and stop the auto-immune/inflammation reaction.
> DNA tests came back that I was celiac and will be taking another test soon regarding auto-immune responses. Test isn't available yet. When it is, I'll let you know.
> Aluminum and other crap screws up the histamine response/immune system as well as vaccine ingredients (squaline adjuvants, etc.)
> Chicken and egg sometimes as to the original causative factor.
> Just trying to pull out of the nose drive.
> It seems like I get more sensitive when I reintroduce some factors back into the equation. My body is trying to tell me something but I don't know what other than get away from everything.
> Andrew
>
> On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:12 PM, seandaly33 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've been looking up some inflammation stuff lately, and I came across this post from last year from snoshoe. Immune dysfunction and inflammation has been mentioned in several EMF and health papers, such as this one on EMFs and the central nervous system/immune cells in brain:
> > www.jneuroinflammation.com/content/pdf/1742-2094-7-54.pdf
> >
> > and this one from Olle Johansson:
> > www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf
> >
> > I was just wondering if any people here have had intensive immune system tests, that for example check the levels of cytokines (immune system messengers), which could show if there are a pro-dominance of proinflammatory cytokines and thus inflammation problems. Some examples I came across online, but haven't looked into:
> >
> > http://neuroendoimmune.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/134/
> >
> > http://www.randox.com/cytokines.php 
> >
> > I'd be interested if electrosensitive people have chronic low level inflammation and how EMFs impact on things.
> >
> > Sean.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some thoughts here on inflammation, I'm definitely not a specialist on this matter,
> >>
> >> What I've read in Tennant's book, inflammation is always a high (local) pH (or too much negative voltage). Inflammation is necessary for healing. For instance when you hit your thumb with a hammer, your thumb will be inflamed. Your thumb will become more alkaline = more negative voltage = more oxygen = more cells to recover your thumb...
> >>
> >> Althus I suppose short term inflammation can be perfect for healing, long term inflammation of a body part/... could be a problem.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering when or how somebody diagnoses himself as having inflammation?!
> >>
> >> For instance joint pains, headaches,... These are not always causes of inflammation. According to Tennant pain is always related to a not-perfect pH (or voltage). So 2 possibilities:
> >> -inflammation = too alkaline = too much negative voltage
> >> -degeneration = too acid = too little negative voltage
> >>
> >> Stephen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
> >>>
> >>> I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -
> >>>
> >>> Inflammation Connection
> >>>
> >>> Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
> >>> remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
> >>>
> >>> I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
> >>>
> >>> I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
> >>> controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
> >>>
> >>> While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
> >>>
> >>> I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
> >>> neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
> >>>
> >>> Take a look at some of the links below. (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.) These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
> >>>
> >>> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
> >>> Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
> >>> Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
> >>> This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system – bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier – to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
> >>> -------------------
> >>>
> >>> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
> >>> Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
> >>> ======
> >>> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
> >>> burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
> >>> ========
> >>>
> >>> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
> >>>
> >>> ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
> >>>
> >>> Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione—the brain's master antioxidant. ...
> >>>
> >>> ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
> >>> ---------------------
> >>>
> >>> If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
> >>>
> >>> I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
> >>>
> >>> Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
> >>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
> >>>
> >>> Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
> >>> www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf
> >>>
> >>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
> >>> Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
> >>>
> >>> What else do any of you use for inflammation?
> >>> I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
> >>>
> >>> ~ Snoshoe
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> Leaky Gut is autoimmune and for sure it is a big issue with EHS ers. There is a test for this through alternative docs. Loni
>
> --- On Tue, 8/30/11, seandaly33 <seandaly33@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: seandaly33 <seandaly33@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Inflammation Connection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 8:30 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> I have come across some stuff on autoimmune research this past while; it seems that there is a lot still to be understood about the workings of autoimmunity. It is a complex area. I have type 1 diabetes, which is now recognised as an autoimmune condition. I wouldn't be surprised if autoimmunity has some role to play in electrosensitivity. I would be interested to know what type of autoimmunity test you are getting exactly.
>
> Sean.
>
> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> >
> > I am with you on this. I believe there is an immune response associated with my ES. I am going through a total redo of my diet (no-gluten, little to no grain, low-no sugar) to heal the gut/brain relationship and stop the auto-immune/inflammation reaction.
> > DNA tests came back that I was celiac and will be taking another test soon regarding auto-immune responses. Test isn't available yet. When it is, I'll let you know.
> > Aluminum and other crap screws up the histamine response/immune system as well as vaccine ingredients (squaline adjuvants, etc.)
> > Chicken and egg sometimes as to the original causative factor.
> > Just trying to pull out of the nose drive.
> > It seems like I get more sensitive when I reintroduce some factors back into the equation. My body is trying to tell me something but I don't know what other than get away from everything.
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:12 PM, seandaly33 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've been looking up some inflammation stuff lately, and I came across this post from last year from snoshoe. Immune dysfunction and inflammation has been mentioned in several EMF and health papers, such as this one on EMFs and the central nervous system/immune cells in brain:
> > > www.jneuroinflammation.com/content/pdf/1742-2094-7-54.pdf
> > >
> > > and this one from Olle Johansson:
> > > www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf
> > >
> > > I was just wondering if any people here have had intensive immune system tests, that for example check the levels of cytokines (immune system messengers), which could show if there are a pro-dominance of proinflammatory cytokines and thus inflammation problems. Some examples I came across online, but haven't looked into:
> > >
> > > http://neuroendoimmune.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/134/
> > >
> > > http://www.randox.com/cytokines.php 
> > >
> > > I'd be interested if electrosensitive people have chronic low level inflammation and how EMFs impact on things.
> > >
> > > Sean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Some thoughts here on inflammation, I'm definitely not a specialist on this matter,
> > >>
> > >> What I've read in Tennant's book, inflammation is always a high (local) pH (or too much negative voltage). Inflammation is necessary for healing. For instance when you hit your thumb with a hammer, your thumb will be inflamed. Your thumb will become more alkaline = more negative voltage = more oxygen = more cells to recover your thumb...
> > >>
> > >> Althus I suppose short term inflammation can be perfect for healing, long term inflammation of a body part/... could be a problem.
> > >>
> > >> I'm wondering when or how somebody diagnoses himself as having inflammation?!
> > >>
> > >> For instance joint pains, headaches,... These are not always causes of inflammation. According to Tennant pain is always related to a not-perfect pH (or voltage). So 2 possibilities:
> > >> -inflammation = too alkaline = too much negative voltage
> > >> -degeneration = too acid = too little negative voltage
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> > >> Stephen.
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> > >> --- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@> wrote:
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> > >>> Hi all, tired out, but if I don't get this up now, it may not happen as I'm pretty busy the next couple weeks, or I'll forget something by then.
> > >>>
> > >>> I said some time ago I was working up a theory. -
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> > >>> Inflammation Connection
> > >>>
> > >>> Besides our need to get heavy metals, etc. out of our bodies, repair myelin sheath,
> > >>> remineralize, limit radiation exposure, I believe we need to manage inflammation.
> > >>>
> > >>> I know many of us are taking things that help reduce that, such as turmeric, vit. D, etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think however we would do well to work towards some kind of loose formula that actually
> > >>> controls the symptomatic problems, especially for the problems in our heads.
> > >>>
> > >>> While continuing to endevor getting well, some symptom relief would be wonderful don't you think? I also believe it would help speed healing.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've found that not only do these metals in the brain change the electrical charge and rate of
> > >>> neuron firing, but it truly is inflammatory, such as with cytokines.
> > >>>
> > >>> Take a look at some of the links below. (A large part of my problem was caused by inhaling through the nose mercury vapor from having a filling drilled and improperly removed. I didn't learn till too late that this causes it to go directly to the brain, and I would've been better off breathing through my mouth had I known.) These first couple links talk about that pathway, and going in not just through the regular routes, but the nerve pathways as well. -
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> > >>> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/02/gis-brains-fried-by-military-dispensed-nose-candy/
> > >>> Radioactive uranium that is inhaled by soldiers on the battlefield and by workers in factories may bypass the brain's protective barrier by following nerves from the nose directly to the brain.
> > >>> Nerves can act as a unique conduit, carrying inhaled uranium from the nose directly to the brain, finds a study with rats. Once in the brain, the uranium may affect task and decision-related types of thinking.
> > >>> This study provides yet another example of how some substances can use the olfactory system â€" bypassing the brain's protective blood barrier â€" to go directly to the brain. Titanium nanoparticles and the metals manganese, nickel, and thallium have been shown to reach the brain using the same route.
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> > >>> http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/nanoparticles-damage-brain-cells/ 
> > >>> Finally, to determine if TiO2 exposure caused chemical changes in the brain, the authors measured levels of certain molecules called cytokines that indicate increased inflammation and cell stress.
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> > >>> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/burning.html 
> > >>> burning brain, finding a good dentist, detox. (Marie's story is a bit similar to mine.)
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> > >>> http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml 
> > >>>
> > >>> ...Both the brain and the blood of autistic individuals show evidence of ongoing chronic inflammation and oxidative stress. That is, the autistic disease process is progressive and probably increasingly destructive. If this ongoing inflammation could be interrupted, the symptoms might improve. Hope for a vitamin D treatment effect lies in activated vitamin D's powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Its administration decreases production of inflammatory cytokines in the brain, which have consistently been associated with brain impairment.
> > >>>
> > >>> Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathioneâ€"the brain's master antioxidant. ...
> > >>>
> > >>> ...Vitamin D's role in increasing glutathione levels may explain the link between mercury and other heavy metals, oxidative stress, and autism. For example, activated vitamin D lessens heavy metal induced oxidative injuries in rat brain. The primary route for brain toxicity of most heavy metals is through depletion of glutathione...
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> > >>> If anyone gets into trying a combination of antiinflammatories, please keep track of your combination, approx. doses, and let us all know!
> > >>>
> > >>> I also found a couple months back that the amino acid glycine is antiinflammatory to the hippocampus - short term memory, and mine surely needs help, but I have to figure a good dose.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also GABA - good article here on that, and it does make me feel calmer:
> > >>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2989138/gaba_supplement_and_the_blood_brain.html?cat=5 
> > >>>
> > >>> Glucocorticoids help close the blood brain barrier, and has anyone been on these and noticed a difference, (cortizone allergy shot for instance) or nsaids even? Natural alternatives I think would be better, but GC's are a starting place to close what is opened by emf.
> > >>> www.physoc.org/publications/pn/issuepdf/61/34-35.pdf
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2788610/important_differences_between_synthetic.html?cat=71 
> > >>> Important Differences Between Synthetic and Natural Glucocorticoids
> > >>>
> > >>> What else do any of you use for inflammation?
> > >>> I also use bromelain and yucca, besides vit. D, gaba, and now the glycine, and histidine.I just need to figure out a dose/combination I think.
> > >>>
> > >>> ~ Snoshoe
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