Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks

This is an absolute disaster , the press today has reported that all
bulbs of the incandescent variety are to be phased out by next year-
and the 100 watts are gone already. They estimate there are
approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
every one in the uk to start hoarding,.. I for one cannot bear to be
near , let alone in fluro energy efficient bulb lighting even when the
bulbs are off!. If i didnt know any better I would see this as a bit
of a NWO conspiracy , given the profound health effects asscociated
with the new bulbs and the fact that they are now being introduced
across the board in several countries including the USA , Australia
and Ireland.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7480958.stm

read the comments section of this article for peoples reactions to this move by the powers that be..
 
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5239&cp=all#comments


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From: betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to begone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 4:44 AM






This is an absolute disaster , the press today has reported that all
bulbs of the incandescent variety are to be phased out by next year-
and the 100 watts are gone already. They estimate there are
approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
every one in the uk to start hoarding,.. I for one cannot bear to be
near , let alone in fluro energy efficient bulb lighting even when the
bulbs are off!. If i didnt know any better I would see this as a bit
of a NWO conspiracy , given the profound health effects asscociated
with the new bulbs and the fact that they are now being introduced
across the board in several countries including the USA , Australia
and Ireland.

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 1/hi/magazine/ 7480958.stm

 














     

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What are the health effects of these new bulbs?

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From: betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to begone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:44 AM






This is an absolute disaster , the press today has reported that all
bulbs of the incandescent variety are to be phased out by next year-
and the 100 watts are gone already. They estimate there are
approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
every one in the uk to start hoarding,.. I for one cannot bear to be
near , let alone in fluro energy efficient bulb lighting even when the
bulbs are off!. If i didnt know any better I would see this as a bit
of a NWO conspiracy , given the profound health effects asscociated
with the new bulbs and the fact that they are now being introduced
across the board in several countries including the USA , Australia
and Ireland.

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 1/hi/magazine/ 7480958.stm

 














     

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Hi, Ada,
 
Thanks for the info you have given us.  Yes, it does seem that the "powers that be" are on a mission with all the changes they are constantly foisting upon us, recently.  You can scarcely get thru one hurdle before you have to arm for another.  If you can get past their appearance of utter stupidity, you begin to feel as if it is approaching an organized plot.  lol
 
My 2 cents.  Thanks again,
Diane

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From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 1:00 PM






read the comments section of this article for peoples reactions to this move by the powers that be..
 
http://www.infowars .com/?p=5239& cp=all#comments

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to begone in next 3 weeks
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 4:44 AM

This is an absolute disaster , the press today has reported that all
bulbs of the incandescent variety are to be phased out by next year-
and the 100 watts are gone already. They estimate there are
approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
every one in the uk to start hoarding,.. I for one cannot bear to be
near , let alone in fluro energy efficient bulb lighting even when the
bulbs are off!. If i didnt know any better I would see this as a bit
of a NWO conspiracy , given the profound health effects asscociated
with the new bulbs and the fact that they are now being introduced
across the board in several countries including the USA , Australia
and Ireland.

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 1/hi/magazine/ 7480958.stm

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This is an earlier post on this forum with regards to health effects of these new bulbs.
 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/11272


--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 5:09 AM






What are the health effects of these new bulbs?

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to begone in next 3 weeks
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:44 AM

This is an absolute disaster , the press today has reported that all
bulbs of the incandescent variety are to be phased out by next year-
and the 100 watts are gone already. They estimate there are
approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
every one in the uk to start hoarding,.. I for one cannot bear to be
near , let alone in fluro energy efficient bulb lighting even when the
bulbs are off!. If i didnt know any better I would see this as a bit
of a NWO conspiracy , given the profound health effects asscociated
with the new bulbs and the fact that they are now being introduced
across the board in several countries including the USA , Australia
and Ireland.

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 1/hi/magazine/ 7480958.stm

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenerliving/4128071/Traditional-100-watt-light-bulbs-to-be-phased-out-in-favour-of-low-energy-alternative.html

\medical charities in UK  campaigning aginst introduction ( and this does not even include the EMF implications) :-
 
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=33937
 
http://www.spectrumalliance.org.uk/index.php?id=5
 
from the founder of right to light :
 
http://www.nlmenetwork.org.uk/nlme-newsletters.php?article=507
 
 


--- On Wed, 7/1/09, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 5:12 AM






This is an earlier post on this forum with regards to health effects of these new bulbs.
 
http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ eSens/message/ 11272

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 5:09 AM

What are the health effects of these new bulbs?

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to begone in next 3 weeks
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:44 AM

This is an absolute disaster , the press today has reported that all
bulbs of the incandescent variety are to be phased out by next year-
and the 100 watts are gone already. They estimate there are
approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
every one in the uk to start hoarding,.. I for one cannot bear to be
near , let alone in fluro energy efficient bulb lighting even when the
bulbs are off!. If i didnt know any better I would see this as a bit
of a NWO conspiracy , given the profound health effects asscociated
with the new bulbs and the fact that they are now being introduced
across the board in several countries including the USA , Australia
and Ireland.

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 1/hi/magazine/ 7480958.stm

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> They estimate there are
> approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
> every one in the uk to start hoarding,..

Yes, hoarding is good... probably you can also find online sources
for "long life" incandescent bulbs (5000 hours? 20000 hours?).
Also, once the ban begins, I suppose you can import them from
other countries (assuming the bulbs are compatible).

Eventually LED bulbs should be inexpensive and acceptable. But
not at the moment...

Marc

Marc, I really cant really ever see  them  becoming acceptable..( at least for me)  but then Im probably a lot  more cynical  about the reasons behind their introduction than you are.
The EMF implications in particular  alarm me , especially the idea of dirty electricity being dumped into house wiring systems- things are bad enough as it is , once the ban is enforced we will have no other alternatives , and definitely no choice..( except for candles and kerosene). I cant imagine  the radio frequencies  will be addressed  in any seriousness  given  the selective deafness  governments have  already employed in coming to terms  with wi-fi, cell phones, masts and all the other accumulated nasties.
 
Ada
 


When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 5:50 AM






> They estimate there are
> approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
> every one in the uk to start hoarding,..

Yes, hoarding is good... probably you can also find online sources
for "long life" incandescent bulbs (5000 hours? 20000 hours?).
Also, once the ban begins, I suppose you can import them from
other countries (assuming the bulbs are compatible).

Eventually LED bulbs should be inexpensive and acceptable. But
not at the moment...

Marc
 














     

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> Marc, I really cant really ever see them becoming acceptable..

Note that I was not suggestion that florescent lights will ever be
acceptable, but rather LED lights -- big difference! LED lights
don't necessarily dump RF frequencies onto the power lines...

Marc

I havent seen the LED ones.. are they globes? The only ones I have seen  availablehouses are the swirly fluro ones. Please can you explain the difference.
 
Ada

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:20 AM






> Marc, I really cant really ever see them becoming acceptable..

Note that I was not suggestion that florescent lights will ever be
acceptable, but rather LED lights -- big difference! LED lights
don't necessarily dump RF frequencies onto the power lines...

Marc
 














     

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> I havent seen the LED ones.. are they globes? The only ones I have seen
> availablehouses are the swirly fluro ones. Please can you explain the
> difference.

You haven't seen the LED ones because they are still very expensive,
and they still don't put out much light. But the price has (and
will continue to) drop, and the light output should increase. So
you should only need to stock up on incandescents until LED lights
become more practical... and we figure out which brands are the good
ones!

The LED lights are not "swirly"... here are some examples of what
they currently look like:

http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/index.aspx

Marc

wow cheap.. arent they ?. But no mercury , or uv light.. and no EMF. I think most folks will adopt the swirly version en masse  though.me..? I will not touch them with a barge pole. For now I am buying incandescents  in bulk. Thanks for info..
 
Ada
 


unknown

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] LED bulbs
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:35 AM






> I havent seen the LED ones.. are they globes? The only ones I have seen
> availablehouses are the swirly fluro ones. Please can you explain the
> difference.

You haven't seen the LED ones because they are still very expensive,
and they still don't put out much light. But the price has (and
will continue to) drop, and the light output should increase. So
you should only need to stock up on incandescents until LED lights
become more practical... and we figure out which brands are the good
ones!

The LED lights are not "swirly"... here are some examples of what
they currently look like:

http://www.ccrane. com/lights/ led-light- bulbs/index. aspx

Marc
 














     

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--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > I havent seen the LED ones.. are they globes? The only ones I
have seen
> > availablehouses are the swirly fluro ones. Please can you explain
the Hello Marc

are you sure that LED ones don't produce any EMF ?
Have you any technical documentation ?

Thanks

Giorgio

PS about the price a friend of mine has been committed on
trading/importing from China, at very cheap price !  
If they don't affect ES people, it would be recommanded , at
reasonable price!

> are you sure that LED ones don't produce any EMF ?
> Have you any technical documentation ?

Well, anything electrical puts out some EMF -- even incandescent
lights can cause an ES person problems. And certainly there will
be LED lights that will cause people problems, as some of them
will use transformers or other electronics that cause people
problems. But it has already been reported here that there
are some LED light designs which do not emit significant
amounts of RF noise, so I suspect that when LED lights become
more popular, we will be able to identify some manufacturers
who make bulbs that are okay.

But in the meantime, use incandescents!

Marc

giorgio wrote:
> are you sure that LED ones don't produce any EMF ?
> Have you any technical documentation ?
>
Hi Giorgio,
The closest thing I have to technical documentation is this: My research
on one type of LED bulb by holding 2 meters at it and taking a picture :-)
http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/20090107_led_bulb_meters_1931-800.jpg

I am sure this one gives off zero EMF. It has no brand name, and is from
China, (but what isn't). It looks the same as the "VIVID LED Light Bulb"
at the C.Crane link Marc posted yesterday. 2nd row down from the top. 18
LEDs, 31 Lumens, 1 watt. Only difference is I got some for $7 each
after shipping 2 1/2 years ago on eBay.

Only regret, was the blue tint might not be ideal, and it is not quite
adequate to read by.

Stewart

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:
>
> giorgio wrote:
> > are you sure that LED ones don't produce any EMF ?
> > Have you any technical documentation ?
> >  
> Hi Giorgio,
> The closest thing I have to technical documentation is this: My
research
> on one type of LED bulb by holding 2 meters at it and taking a
picture :-)
> http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/20090107_led_bulb_meters_1931-
800.jpg
>
> I am sure this one gives off zero EMF. It has no brand name, and is
from
> China, (but what isn't). It looks the same as the "VIVID LED Light
Bulb"
> at the C.Crane link Marc posted yesterday. 2nd row down from the
top. 18
> LEDs, 31 Lumens, 1 watt. Only difference is I got some for $7 each
> after shipping 2 1/2 years ago on eBay.
>
> Only regret, was the blue tint might not be ideal, and it is not
quite
> adequate to read by.
>
> Stewart
>
Thank you Stewart

this kind of information is what I was looking for when my friend
asked me to be involved in a new business opportunity to sell a 'new'
Chinese brand in Italy/Europe.

My regards

Hi Ada
 
You mentioned dirty electricity being dumped into house wiring - is that from CFLs? I am at my parents house at the minute and they have one CFL [thati know of] in the main hallway - could that be dumping dirty electricity into the wiring in their house??
 
I get awful migraines when I go to shopping centres or any shops - I am presuming that must be from the fluorescent lighting. Thanks for the link to the Spectrum alliance - reading the stuff there made my blood boil - the government really only does care about the survival of the fittest - but it was good to know about the existence of that organisation. Keep posting!!
 
Hope you are doing a bit better.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Tue, 6/1/09, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 7:08 PM






Marc, I really cant really ever see  them  becoming acceptable.. ( at least for me)  but then Im probably a lot  more cynical  about the reasons behind their introduction than you are.
The EMF implications in particular  alarm me , especially the idea of dirty electricity being dumped into house wiring systems- things are bad enough as it is , once the ban is enforced we will have no other alternatives , and definitely no choice..( except for candles and kerosene). I cant imagine  the radio frequencies  will be addressed  in any seriousness  given  the selective deafness  governments have  already employed  in coming to terms  with wi-fi, cell phones, masts and all the other accumulated nasties.
 
Ada
 

When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Incandescent bulbs to be phased out in UK.. 100watts to be gone in next 3 weeks
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 5:50 AM

> They estimate there are
> approximately 3 weeks worth of 100 watt left in stores. I suggest
> every one in the uk to start hoarding,..

Yes, hoarding is good... probably you can also find online sources
for "long life" incandescent bulbs (5000 hours? 20000 hours?).
Also, once the ban begins, I suppose you can import them from
other countries (assuming the bulbs are compatible).

Eventually LED bulbs should be inexpensive and acceptable. But
not at the moment...

Marc


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Ditto - and failing that candles - have even been known to use a battery powered torch when things get really bad
 
Steph

--- On Tue, 6/1/09, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] LED bulbs
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 7:43 PM






wow cheap.. arent they ?. But no mercury , or uv light.. and no EMF. I think most folks will adopt the swirly version en masse  though.me..? I will not touch them with a barge pole. For now I am buying incandescents  in bulk. Thanks for info..
 
Ada
 

unknown

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] LED bulbs
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:35 AM

> I havent seen the LED ones.. are they globes? The only ones I have seen
> availablehouses are the swirly fluro ones. Please can you explain the
> difference.

You haven't seen the LED ones because they are still very expensive,
and they still don't put out much light. But the price has (and
will continue to) drop, and the light output should increase. So
you should only need to stock up on incandescents until LED lights
become more practical... and we figure out which brands are the good
ones!

The LED lights are not "swirly"... here are some examples of what
they currently look like:

http://www.ccrane. com/lights/ led-light- bulbs/index. aspx

Marc


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In a message dated 1/11/2009 11:06:47 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

wow cheap.. arent they ?. But no mercury , or uv light.. and no EMF. I think
most folks will adopt the swirly version en masse though.me..? I will not
touch them with a barge pole. For now I am buying incandescents in bulk.
Thanks for info..

Ada



Dont forget that you can also buy long lasting incandescents also has anyone
seen the new dishwashable keyboards and mice ? could these be imersed in
water and you type with surgical gloves to the imersed keyboard ? I suppose the
water will not block the frequencies from the keyboard and mouse so this
would be a waste of time right ?

PUK


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> I am at my parents house at the minute and they have one CFL
> [that i know of] in the main hallway - could that be dumping dirty
> electricity into the wiring in their house??

Yes indeed -- if possible, you should replace all the CFLs with
incandescent lights.
 
Marc