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richsurf77
About a month ago I stopped taking vitamin pills which had some metals
in them and I am almost certain that this has led to my symptoms
noticably improving. I am not using any electrical devices for any less
time than I was before stopping taking them so I think stopping the
pills has helped. It is not a spectacular improvement but there seems
to be some reduction in symptoms, mainly less sensitivity to the
brightness of the computer screen.

I don't know much about metals and which are likely to worsen symptoms,
but the pills contained magnesium stearate, manganese sulphate, zinc
oxide, titanium dioxide, iron oxide and copper. Just thought I'd make a
note of this. I'm going to get some pills without the metals in soon
because I think the antioxidants from the vitamins are important for
people with ES.

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Marc Martin
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> About a month ago I stopped taking vitamin pills which had some metals
> in them and I am almost certain that this has led to my symptoms
> noticably improving.

It's been my experience that most of the "vitamin pills" sold on the market
today actually seem to be *bad* for your health. There are certainly
people on the Internet who agree with this, and note that many of
these Vitamins are derived from coal, rocks, etc., and that there
is no way that the body can assimilate and use them in the same way
that it would get nutrients from foods. Instead, the liver/kidneys
has to process them as toxins, which may accumulate in your
body if you cannot excrete them fast enough.

I know in my own case, I was taking multi-vitamin pills for at least
a decade, and only saw my health get worse and worse during that
time. Then I switched to "natural vitamins", and my health has
improved. When I say natural vitamins, I mean that the ingredients
label lists concentrated foods and herbs, not chemical-sounding names
("ascorbic acid", etc.). Ideally, I think one should just get their
nutrition from eating healthy foods, but when ill, concentrated
foods, herbs, and "superfoods" can certainly help speed up one's
recovery.

Marc

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PUK
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MARC WROTE - About a month ago I stopped taking vitamin pills which had some
metals
> in them and I am almost certain that this has led to my symptoms
> noticably improving.

PAUL REPLIED -



If you study Roger Coghills book called "something in the air" which is a
very interesting read at the least, there is a small mention about a french
scientist that tells of the benefits of eating home grown food. When I say home
grown I mean that which is grown in your area as close to your home as
possible in essence, this is based on the fact that your body will be somewhat
attuned to the natural emfs in the area and so to the produce, so assimulation
of the nutrients is imporoved due to the synergy, a simple but somewhat
logical hypothesis. Basically If you need supplements then you should opt for the
least processed ones ie as natural as possible. While we talk about Metals,
I have queried this before - I have taken showers everyday for some 25 yrs I
notice that we have an orange scum/stain on the tiling, could this be iron
deposits from mains pipework condensing in the steam thus ending up rather
efficiently into my lungs and so on... I am aware of calcium and others getting
into the body inthis way ??

Happy christmas to one and all

Paul


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Re: Improved symptoms

Snoshoe
It sounds like there is iron in the water. It's in much of the areas
around here. It's not really a problem that I've ever found or heard,
except your white laundry tends to be not so white, and extra
cleaning of the bathroom is necessary.

However, there is a bacteria that likes the iron, that if it is in
the water can cause people problems. I've not had experience with it,
but it would be something to look into perhaps.

If it's from the pipes, it might be time to look at having them
replaced.

Merry Christmas!~!

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>  
> PAUL REPLIED -
>
While we talk about Metals,
> I have queried this before - I have taken showers everyday for
some 25 yrs I
> notice that we have an orange scum/stain on the tiling, could this
be iron
> deposits from mains pipework condensing in the steam thus ending
up rather
> efficiently into my lungs and so on... I am aware of calcium and
others getting
> into the body inthis way ??
>  
> Happy christmas to one and all
>  
> Paul
>

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Snoshoe
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Yeah, the unnatural "vitamins" are not actually vitamins, but
chemicals marketed as such, aggravating huh?

It makes particularly the B's hard to get. I've discovered that even
the nutritional yeasts have synthetic of some added to them, to up
the content of it.
They are however a mirror image of the real deal.

The ascorbic acid is only a portion of the vitamin C, although it's
what's mostly available, and largely synthesized from corn, which is
genetically engineered, unless it's labelled organic, which even is
now infected with the GMO corn germ.

So, that one can also be a toughie. Freshest, closest to homegrown
possible is truly the best you can get, but you gotta use what you
can till you find better, so don't let this get anyone down, just
keep looking.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

> It's been my experience that most of the "vitamin pills" sold on
the market
> today actually seem to be *bad* for your health. There are
certainly

> people on the Internet who agree with this, and note that many of
> these Vitamins are derived from coal, rocks, etc., and that there
> is no way that the body can assimilate and use them in the same way
> that it would get nutrients from foods. Instead, the liver/kidneys
> has to process them as toxins, which may accumulate in your
> body if you cannot excrete them fast enough.
>
> I know in my own case, I was taking multi-vitamin pills for at least
> a decade, and only saw my health get worse and worse during that
> time. Then I switched to "natural vitamins", and my health has
> improved. When I say natural vitamins, I mean that the ingredients
> label lists concentrated foods and herbs, not chemical-sounding
names
> ("ascorbic acid", etc.). Ideally, I think one should just get their
> nutrition from eating healthy foods, but when ill, concentrated
> foods, herbs, and "superfoods" can certainly help speed up one's
> recovery.
>
> Marc