Kara, I was not allergic only to grains and dairy, but to MOST fruits and some vegetables.
Tomatoes, kiwi, banana, pineapple, all apples, all pears, pomegranate (I could only eat one, the next burned my mouth), oranges, some melons, etc etc. The only stuff I was not allergic were lemons, figs, some grapes (if ripe), watermelon, avocado, dates. That was the MAIN reason I tried Anthony's suggestion, as keeping NO gluten, no cow milk, no sugar, no processed foods was not enough. I was already doing that for many many years.... 10-15 years of losing weight, down to less than 40 kg last year! It was no good news... On top of food allergies, I still had the EHS that I think today, is 'a sort of allergy' to radiation (I mean, it feels like our nerves get so sensitive, and radiation cause an exacerbation of bad feelings). Same as allergies: the gut nerves are so bad and exacerbated with all food or toxin exacerbation that it keeps reacting, and increasing our reaction to fruits and other things (like my husband reacts even to cauliflower and broccoli, on top of many other VEGETABLES!!). It's not exactly ONLY staple foods, if you see what I mean. It's a sort of a chain reaction of sensitive nerves. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have you heard about master cell activation disorder (MCAD)? There are people who become so bad that they react to smell of people or their OWN HAIR! People's smells can lead them to an anaphylactic shock!!! Some have to live bunkered in houses, without any guests!! MCAD is serious, can cause death, and the sad thing: more and more people are labelled with this disease, and numbers are increasing! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- EHS goes worse with exposure to radiation, same way as food allergies goes worse with exposure to the foods that cause us allergy. I'm totally with you concerning nuts. That's why I'm FAR from veganism. I now can eat all nuts, but my consumption is very reduced, due to excess of oils. I was never attracted to nuts, and Anthony does not recommend them either in great amounts (only VERY moderate). Nuts are on the TOP list of allergenic foods, together with chocolate, dairy, wheat / gluten, etc... My husband cannot touch any type of nuts for decades... Whatever we did to agriculture before the Industrial Revolution is what allowed humans to spread all over. Staple crops, as you say. The problem after the Ind Revolution is that we added chemicals and GMOs to the equation, and that messed up even more with everything... Anthony says we react to apples because of pesticides on skin, and the body can't accept that and react with an allergy. Next ORGANIC apple you eat, the body remembers: oh, that poisonous thing, i don't want it... and may react even with the organic apple. Whatever I tried before, they did not work. Only his diet allowed me to get rid of ALL food allergies. And as 'side-effect', I got rid of EHS, meaning, the excessive reaction to electrosmog. As for raw food, I know few people who can do it. Most people don't have the bacteria to digest raw foods anymore... Without the correct bacteria, no way they can digest all that fiber. It may take years to build them back again. ------------------------------- I still react to radiation (like I think everybody does), but I can watch a 2 hour film through wifi in a smart phone (less than a meter away) without even feeling anything... And less than 2 meters away from the rooter sending the wifi!! A sort of UNIMAGINABLE thing in the past. Just the PRESENCE of a smart phone near me would cause me a sort of panic... Like a fight or flight reaction. I don't do it often, but I did it this week as I lost the last episode of Game of Thrones (which was bad, but anyway, I followed the whole season and did not want to miss the last episode!!). the computer could not stream it well, so I watched it in the smart phone of my daughter. I also lost the ability to spot smart phones ON in the house now. I can't even know if my own phone (not a smart phone, but the old model) is on or off in my bag, like I could do it easily in the past. It made me dizzy, feeling sick, now I even forget it on the whole day and night by accident. So whatever people say, I still follow what's working for me. And I give Anthony a lot of the credits! He wrote his 5th book: Celery Juice, that is on the way. I pre-ordered it months ago. |
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Yes, Earthworm, Anthony's not really vegan, nor anything... No fads, he said.
But I read all his books, and I know what is wrong with milk according to his view. The HORMONES in milk, that are there to make baby cows grow. Same as in eggs: hormones to make chicks grow. These hormones, he said, feed pathogens, such as viruses. Think about estrogen-like hormones in plastic, dioxins for example. They disrupt hormones in the body and he says they cause cancer to grow because they feed pathogens that cause cancer. Plastics are among the WORST chemicals made by man, he says, and we eat plastics every day, as they seep through food packed in plastics.... So raw milk or not raw milk, hormones are still there. Even dry milk. That's the problem. Same as with goat milk, any milk... If men had not played with toxins the way he did (pesticides, insecticides, fungicides, etc), milk, egg, corn, soya, everything would be still okay, he said. |
Concerning the hormones in milk you have a point.
Although these are not the same as these plastics. Basically cow's milk is not made for us of course. On the other hand, our bodies can handle a lot. For me beans are undigestible while raw milk feels fine. And you have to eat something unless you want to die soon. Grains and other seeds are full of so-called anti-nutrients. My teeth are too bad to chew up 5 kgs. of vegetables a day. And that would cost a lot of time and money as well. Meat and fish have a large ecological impact. And there are plenty of other reasons to cut down on them. So it ain't that easy these days, to figure out what to eat. Basically one has to stop the mind and follow the instincts. |
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Where can i find the anthony williams detox forum? Couldnt find it with a google search.
And jinna can you tolerante the harshest emf products now like high speed ac routers etc? |
https://www.facebook.com/groups/131026294174782/
Romana, this is one of the groups that have quite some people in. I post there too as Jinna Cat (you don't have to give your real name, photo etc) My photo is a tile star. I don't think I can tolerate harsh EMF products as I am still not someone that would go after these type of things, after all I read about. I just can say that I can't spot most EMF devices/ towers that I usually could easily spot, because it either gave me headache, stomach ache, nausea, cold sweats, and made that flight or fight mode turn on, so I had to run away. I suppose when 5G will come, I'll get that again, but for the moment, I barely feel my husband's car (I used to fall asleep 10 minutes after entering it and wake up not well after)... We went to Zurich yesterday, about 50 minutes in the car, and I wondered when was my 'fatigue' coming? It didn't. I suppose that if I travel many hours, I would feel it again, but before 10 minutes in the car turned my symptoms on... |
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Earthworm, yes, it's a difficult world we are in.
Anthony is the only guy that says that chicken eggs (or any egg) and any animal product (specially milk, because it has hormones for the cows to grow) have natural hormones that FEED low growing pathogens, which are at the ORIGIN of dozens of chronic diseases, possibly all chronic diseases.... No one ever said that, no one that I know. Plastics not only feed pathogens (as they are toxins and toxins need to be broken down by something, in order to go back to its natural state...), they cause hormone disruptions in anyone (according to science, not to Anthony), low fertility in man, cancer of breast in women and no one knows what else. Our bodies can handle a lot, you're right. 87000 new toxic chemicals that are loose in nature. Plus EMFs. The problem is that we are at the edge of what we can handle. Same as cows eating chicken bone. Yes, they not only can handle that, they live on that, and on corn, on soya that were NOT meant for them to eat. They don't thrive, they survive. Chicken bone powder as their food came to the public knowledge only after the scandal of the Kreuzfeld Jacob mad cow disease. Before, no one knew that cows were eating chicken bones!! We accept they eat soya and corn as their main food, even though they would NEVER eat that amount of corn and soya if left free in nature... But chicken bone was a bit too much! Yes, cows and us, we can handle a lot of things that were not meant for us to live on. But chronic diseases are increasing. No one can deny that. Not only we are sick, the animals too. And we EAT that milk produced by those cows that eat incorrectly. Plus all the soya and corn they eat are full of glyphosate and possibly atrazine, plus the OGM DNA from corn + soya. No wonder these cows die faster (but we kill them before they die because they are not productive anymore). And we eat their sick meat full of OGMs, their proteins fed by OGM and animal protein never meant to be in their diet. Plus the hormones, such as adrenaline and their hormones, that are in meat and milk. Adrenaline is the LAST thing you want in your body, I mean, the fight and flight adrenaline that they put in their bodies the moment they know they will be slaughtered. Most chronic sufferers (of many types of disease) have a problem with adrenaline, like not being able to sleep at night, waking up tired, or being in fight or flight mode anxiety the whole time, exhausting their immune system, not being able to digest food etc... If they knew that adrenaline feeds pathogens and contributes to enlarging blood vessels in cancer formation (angiogenesis of capilaries), they would at least, avoid meat, or diminish its consumption. I say that, but I do eat meat too, mostly now for social reasons. Adrenaline is also in milk, because milking cows are pushed to produced milk to their limit. They milk cows non-stop, as many times a day they are able to, then when milk production goes down, they inject sperm to make them pregnant again, and there is NO REST for them. Every single day counts, as we consumers want cheap milk, cheap cheese etc. If they don't deliver the amount farmers want, they are killed. As simple as that. So cows live their WHOLE LIVES in stress, constant stress as farmers milking them too. Farmers are working fully under stress to produce more and cheaper. It's pretty sad to see what goes on in France and in Europe (I mean, just listen to a farmer talk...) That's why supporting the organic production makes a bit of sense. At least, no OGM in their food! I ate a wonderful pizza napolitana yesterday, otherwise I can't even go out with friends. It's a pizza place, already with gluten, then cheese etc. Nothing organic. The quantity was not a lot, but I did eat. At least, they claim to get all their ingredients from few selected farms in Italy. The taste was amazing, i can't deny... I want to go on living, meeting friends, not being in a bunker too. that's the society we are living in, so I fully agree with you! Specially now that I don't react much to EMFs, I can go to big cities without feeling ill, so I refuse to still be in a bunker like before, during the worst years I suffered from so many conditions! |
Well, of course food should be as organic and natural as can be.
I eat a bit of meat also these days, once or twice a week, as it feels that it provides some essential nutrients. One cow provides on average perhaps 300 kgs. of meat, thus if one eats 250 grams / 8 ounces a week, that would turn out to be 13 kgs. a year, or enough for 23 years. Provided that the animal had a reasonable life and appropiate food, eating its flesh does not seem to be such nasty and outrageous big thing to do as lots of vegans state. I would not eat the beef you talk about, nor pizzas, under no circumstances, certain recipes are simply too distasteful and greasy, on a serious note : Italians should simply never be allowed to prepare any food, it is a disgrace. |
earthworm said, "on a serious note : i do not think Italians should be allowed to prepare food. "
I am of Italian ancestory and find that statement a bit insulting. My Italian grandparents lived to be 98 and had a diet of mostly home-grown vegetables and farm animals. Neither my mother nor grandmother knew how to cook pizza or lasagne - although my mother
loves it.
Ten years ago, I tried veganism for a few years. When I see pictures of myself during that time it's hard to believe that I looked in mirror then and thought that I looked healthy. I was emaciated and looked much older than I do now.
Here's a Youtube video showing that some other vegans have experienced the same effects:
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i know these videos. the guy is exaggerating but has some points. the other side of the story is this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k92vBO-qaHU btw, i was talking about modern day italians. and exagerating a bit, if not just kidding. the whole idea of reducing someone to a nationality is of course utter nonsense to begin with. certainly lots of italians will agree that pizzas and pastas are horrendous. those people should be allowed to cook up recipes. |
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Meat-consumption has an environmental impact but many things have. It may be less extreme than often believed. https://sustainabledish.com/much-feed-take-produce-pound-beef/ I've read other statistics but these numbers do not seem too bad. And it seems that these numbers are not even adjusted for nutrition-density. I do not follow the news, do not know about farmers under stress, but they deserve honest prices. Organic free-range beef, what does it cost, 20 euro a kilogram ( 10 usd a pound ) or so ? If you eat 10 kgs. a year, what are we talking about ? It's just peanuts ! |
I LOVE Italian food, prepared in ITALY!
They do use local ingredients in smaller towns, at least, that's my impression. The tomatoes look amazing, tasty, not acid at all, for example. Such a variety of colors, shapes, sizes! You immediately taste a tomato sauce done locally and an industrial one. They are incomparable. Their buffalo muzzarelas are divine. Also loads of varieties, depending on the region. It's like each town has its own favorite recipes. Just go to next town, and everything is different again. The pizza dough of a traditional Napolitan pizza takes 48 hours to be raised, so that they become less heavy to digest. And they do have wonderful raw meats, just done like in the past (the Norcia wild pigs for example)... We eat only in small amounts as they are salty... and costly. So I also somehow disagree about the quality of their food. It's far from industrialized food, at least, when you go eat local food in small towns there. They eat loads of mushrooms, for example. Many types. The worst food of the planet is industrialized food, done to last months/ years in the shelves, full of chemical products and dead food. Italian restaurants there in Italy do not serve a lot of dead food, specially if you pay for a good restaurant. Even their tomato sauce is done locally, rarely industrialized. Of course in bigger cities or fast food chains, it's the same bad quality you find anywhere in the planet, but less when it's a family own business. Local Italians are very picky concerning food and most are allergic to industrial food! They hate the idea of food coming in a bag, and fast foods. Fast foods encountered a big resistance, even in cities like Rome, you can check that through history. they love eating, tasting wine, talking about food. It is truly part of their way of living. Unfortunately, I can't take gluten, eggs and dairy, so I only can eat a few things there - potato dishes and risottos, if they contain no dairy. Sad, because I love Italian food. Mediterranean food is known to be one of the healthiest foods in the planet, right? Well Italians and Greek eat Mediterranean food! |
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I also have to disagree that vegans are malnourished and ill.
What about the BILLIONS of meat eaters that are chronically sick in the planet?? Are they well nourished too?!? No one will point fingers if a meat eater falls ill, gets diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer etc, saying that it's his meat eating that is causing him all diseases. No one will point fingers to his meat eating habit, right? Billions are ill or becoming ill. Cancer is only getting higher, infertility etc. How many from them are vegans?? Certainly a minority, because vegans are a minority. I'm not a vegan, but I find it outrageous that anything bad that happens to someone who eats vegan is blamed on their vegan eating habits. Look at me: I went down to 38 kg eating meat EVERY DAY my whole life. Only occasionally I got a day without meat, when I was fasting or so due to extreme disease. Yes, extreme disease WHILE eating meat. I bet that most people here are MEAT EATERS. Do you guys blame your meat eating habits or you JUST blame EMFs? Well, vegans are also under EMFs, unfortunately. why not blaming EMFs for their loss of health? You guys just want to finger point what does not fit your beliefs concerning diet, but just look at your own image in the mirror!!! I looked like a starving person most of my life being a MEAT EATER. And I tried to eat organic as much as I could. And recently, of course I looked for pasture raised meats and eggs. Many in Anthony William forum are as thin as myself or suffering with low body weight and they are just shifting to more vegan to try to see if that solves the problem. that was the MAIN health problem that MADE ME turn from my normal eating habits to ANOTHER way of eating. And that is more vegan, less meat eating. I was eating like a queen, and STARVING daily. Last 15 years, I only lost weight eating cheese practically daily, many eggs a week, and meat every single day (just a small piece, but I never missed it because I thought it NOURISHED ME). It was purely FEAR of dying, disappearing that made me change. It wouldn't take me long to go down to 35 kg, but that I think would have been my death certificate. And yes, I was eating MEAT DAILY. Malnourished is not the right term: the food nutrients were UNABLE to reach my cells and tissues. I was starving eating all those things, rich varieties, veggies and meat, organic fruits, no added sugar my whole life, no sodas for about 40 years (if I take one glass a year is too much). And I was starving, my cells were starving due to FOOD ALLERGIES!!! Or because I was feeding pathogens (that is the idea of Anthony). In my case, I think the problem was eggs and dairy, more than meat. Cutting eggs and dairy solved the EHS problem and all my FOOD ALLERGIES in about 4 months. I had been gluten free for more than a decade, so it was not gluten, but it was a total cut in eggs, dairy and a strong reduction of oils and meat that solved my problem. Now I'm back to 43 kg. I just need more 0.5 kg to reach my previous weight of 20 years ago. so yes, I'm GAINING weight on eating LESS MEAT AND OILS!! finally, after the catastrophe of the last 10-15 years of loosing weight and UNABLE to get even 100 grams!!! I'm not vegan because I don't eat soy nor corn either now. and I do eat bits of meat still, but it's in ridiculous amounts!! SUPPOSE Anthony is right and soy, corn, gluten, dairy and eggs feed pathogens and cause inflammation and disease. Well, being a vegan won't keep you healthy either because vegans eat loads of soy and corn and gluten. So I think the question is not vegan is good or bad, or meat eater is good or bad: just look around you, and see who is really healthy after 40 years old?!? You'll find meat eaters and vegans who are ill. You can be a meat eater your whole life and be TOTALLY malnourished like I was, only losing weight because of inflammation that is coming from OTHER things than meat. You can be a vegan eater and be malnourished due to inflammation, if you eat inflammatory foods such as corn, gluten and soya. That's my opinion only... |
Well, concerning italian food, it's not that interesting and anyway not es-related, so i'll won't say much more on it.
Of course it is great when old kitchen traditions are not discarded and replaced by progressed processed meals. There is a silly war going on between modern hardcore vegans and ( mostly raw ) meat eaters. Both make some sensible points and together they put up a good show. I am grateful for experiencing such spectacles, which are still allowed, and that can nourish our minds and help to find what works on a personal level. Fakebook already censors low carb / high fat proponents, wikipedia turned into a madhouse run by inmates according to a founder and google has started to heavily manipulate search results. Within 10 years we may not be able to look at many angles of a matter and information might be another word for straightforward brainwashing. In that respect china could be considered one of the most "advanced" countries right now. Even this es-forum could perhaps become regulated in other to protect citizens against "misinformation". And everything we write here could be used against us one day, as the world is getting more serious, corrupted and political. This does not need to be of any concern as it is non of our business nor responsibility what others do. But it sounds like a sensible plan to never forget that intuition and instincts are old friends while information is often tricky. "You guys just want to finger point what does not fit your beliefs concerning diet, but just look at your own image in the mirror!!!" Markus Rothkranz states about the same in the video i linked above, plus a lot of reasons why "some" ( read : lots of ) vegans are not doing fine. Apart from that, general rules are not to be trusted. Some people thrive on one diet, others on other diets. This is part of the fun, one has to find out what fits while being bombarded with all kinds of often contradictory points of view. In addition, the internet is such a sick medium that it dumbs down its users to unbelievable silly levels of mental degradation. Staring in a state of hypnosis at a flickering unnatural light and emfs emitting 2D screen people rarely read what is written and intended, and become less capable to use their already limited brains. So all in all, the devil has created a fabulous challenge, which is widely appreciated, however mostly in a disastrous manner by so-called "consumers". |
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