Okay so I am just curious about the approximate ages of people on here that have EHS.
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Not sure. I think i became aware around 22 that something was wrong (but it took a few years to find out EMR was the cause, since dokters are useless for this), but i might have been sensitive much earlier, it's possible i was slightly sensitive my entire life and it became worse over time. I had pain from the first cellphone i got for sure. But computers became painful later, of coarse they became stronger over the years and since i loved computers i changed hardware every 1-2 years. Now i'm almost 40. It took me too long to fully believe and fully accept it myself (partly because everybody around me kept fighting the idea that it could be harmful and partly because of addiction to using technology (dokters failed to help me with this as well)) and it took too long to find the correct answer for me since there are currently no safe products available for me, hence the build. And so the damage done is extensive and might be irreversible.
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Wow it took a long time for you to really figure out what it was!!! It took me about 3 years to actually figure out the problem and as soon as I found it I stopped using wifi and my phone.
Yeah I think I might have been sensitive much earlier too, but I know the exact tipping point for me when it became a permanent problem (instead of something coming and going and being able to tolerate it pretty easily). Could have actually started 10 years earlier when I got my first phone and the first cell towers were going up and just took time to get worse and really noticeable. I do believe the body can heal and I think it's something we have to figure out now and heal now before things get much worse... :/ |
no it didn't take long to know what i was, it took me only a couple of years as well,
but it took too long to accept it and find a solution. |
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I was 38. I think it took around 6 months for me to figure out what the problem was (prior to that, I was blaming all sorts of other things).
But I'm almost 55 now, so I've been dealing with this for 17 years! Although I am much better now than I was then. Marc |
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Think about it, many people never figure it out.. It took 6 years here. Most people do not realize that EMFs can cause something other than cancer... myself included, if you asked me a year ago. The news on TV and everywhere else is all about cell phones, and cancer. There is absolutely no mass media information about Wifi possibly causing Anxiety for example. How is anybody supposed to relate something invisible with their symptoms.. it's almost impossible. Most people think these devices work by magic.. and those that know they radiate, think that 2 meters away you are 100% safe. |
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Of course, there is a show on TV now, "Better Call Saul", where a main character has ES, so that could help raise awareness.
Although, I think most people just consider that character to be crazy (same as most people would with anyone with ES). Marc |
I think it discredits ES more than helping it.... People just think he's crazy and have a pre-set crazy idea when you tell them you have it because they have seen this crazy character on TV. Hopefully it's not like that, but this is how I see it. I find it *very* odd how so many people are extremely stubborn and think it's crazy, without ever doing one minute of research, or reading even ONE of the 1000's of Pubmed scientifically done and published articles showing hundreds of different effects on plants, mice, people, sperm, embryos, and so so many other effects. It is pure ignorance on their part to dismiss something as crazy while they have zero knowledge about it. |
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"Of course, there is a show on TV now, "Better Call Saul", where a main character has ES, so that could help raise awareness.
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I caught what I think was the last show of the season of "Better Call Saul". The setting was in a courtroom before a judge because
Chuck, the ES brother, has basically set up and filed charges on his brother, the likeable main character Jimmy/Saul, who has for years done all he can to protect Chuck from EMF. To defend himself, Jimmy plants what I think is a cell phone battery -
not the phone- on Chuck, and in front of the judge he tells Chuck that its in his pocket. Stunned and horrified Chuck pulls the battery out, and Jimmy then portrays Chuck as a liar/faker for his ES claims because he didn't even know the battery was on him.
In the very last scene, Chuck is seen by himself freaking out and forcing himself to hold the battery - because - just ask Hollywood and AT&T - it's just a psychological thing he can get over.
It was disgusting and does anyone here have problems holding a battery? I not saying it's not possible, but I haven't noticed a problem holding them unless they're in operational mode producing electricity. So my guess is that
the producers of the show consulted with one of their wireless sponsors instead of a real ES person.
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There are some more episodes after that one, but yes, the show doesn't seem to distinguish between things that most ES people don't react to (e.g. holding a battery) and things that most people do react to (e.g. using a cellphone). I've listened to the behind-the-scenes podcasts, and at first they didn't even know that there was such an illness, they came up the character being "allergic to electricity", and later learned that there was something called "electromagnetic hypersensitivity", and even use that term in the show. Although I'm not sure if that term was common at the time that episode took place (around 2002, I think).
And although in the podcasts they tend to describe it as a real condition that the character is suffering from, from the show it seems to be a mental condition (especially if you've seen all of the episodes to date) Marc |
Speaking of onscreen characters with EHS, Frank Parnell (the crazed yet lovable nuclear physicist/scientist from Repo Man) could be listed as an extreme case. Nobody really knew what was in trunk, but we don't know if it was radioactive or electromagnetic. It certainly didn't have a detrimental effect on either Otto or Miller.
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Wow thats a LONG time to have had to deal with this! Sorry!
You did seem to figure it out faster than most people though |
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Yes I bet there are tons of people who think they have certain "diseases" such as chronic fatigue and other illnesses and its actually EHS. But yeah who would know! I had no idea wifi was so bad until I got the meters.
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If you tell them, they don't even bother trying to turn the thing off, because it's so crazy and impossible.. that's the odd part. People are very stubborn,.. and not just about this, but most things that are not on CNN must be crazy somehow.. TV news is the only source of information for a lot of people. |
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When I was 6 years old.
in retrospect I think it was a vaccine that kickstarted it. my theory is that the vaccine made my body grew to quick.got in puberty at the age of 7. didnt get enough minerals(calcium) so I remember having lots of bone pain as well. growing pains they call it. I think its the body not having enough building blocks. the vaccine also filled me with metals. "for you we got This vaccine" remember the doc told me. and my intuition was "A big NO" when my dad drove me to the doc. so basicly feeling those aweful rf's/microwaves/fluorescent lights radios/tv's/computers my whole life. when we got the cordsless phone in our house i didnt like to be at home anymore. that was a huge mistake, but i didnt understand what was happening to me and i just thought i was put together that way(sensitive). glad "they" didnt have all the cell phone towers back int he nineties. doing good now though. woooo Peace |
Oh man thats a shame, at such a young age. That will probably be the case as well with many of the new generation. I wonder what the world will look like when the bulk of kids and teenagers get really sick from this stuff...
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If I remember it correctly, I was already 28 when I realized I suffered from EHS.
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This is such an elusive question, since we are all sensitive and it's hard to know when we pass over the threshold into hypersensitive because the info on this toxin is held like a huge secret. I was an incubator baby, and do have higher sensitivity by nature (RH Negative blood, which is a bloodline) and did suffer problems that could be explained by electrosmog since childhood, so I guess I'd say since I was a baby. The sad thing is that since this is kept secret, when we suffer in those early years, we are so vulnerable to demeaning and devaluing inputs from the so-called adults in the room that blame us/our character for what we are struggling with or can't do due to the effects of the involutary toxin.
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