>This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more
>experimentation I loved this comment. Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with these devices built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or aluminum shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower Buster"? Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting good energy everywhere possible. Here is sites that shows how to build: www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm www.cloud-busters.com At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not sure that following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite gas station is what I would do. I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit more reasearch about their true effectiveness. Glenn |
It has to do with orgone, the stuff described by Wilhelm Reich in the
1930-ies. I have build an orgone accumulator and orgone blankets. I know people who have build HHg's and cloudbusters. They all do something, but have nothing to do with elektrosmog. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Coleman" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 20:46 Subject: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster > > >This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more > >experimentation > > I loved this comment. > > Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with these devices > built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or aluminum > shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. > > Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower Buster"? > Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting good > energy everywhere possible. > > Here is sites that shows how to build: > > www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm > www.cloud-busters.com > > At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not sure that > following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite gas > station is what I would do. > > I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit more > reasearch about their true effectiveness. > > Glenn > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
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> Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower
> Buster"? Yes, I bought a couple of those a year or two ago from someone -- I found them agitating, and got rid of them. Of course, I find these rejuvenator products agitating in a similar way... Marc |
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I have ordered a number of the tower busters and the Holy Hand Grenade,
etc. I put a few under my bed and I woke up the next day feeling horrible. I moved them to the corners of the room and felt better. I have thrown a couple near the towers but still feel their effects. I can't say that they work. There is an orgone sensing device that you can buy on their website. I wonder if it will actually register on it if you put a few out around the house. I am not going to buy the orgone sensor. If you do, please let me know if the resin devices register a difference. Andrew On Oct 19, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Glenn Coleman wrote: > >> This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more >> experimentation > > I loved this comment. > > Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with these > devices > built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or aluminum > shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. > > Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower > Buster"? > Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting good > energy everywhere possible. > > Here is sites that shows how to build: > > www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm > www.cloud-busters.com > > At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not sure > that > following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite gas > station is what I would do. > > I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit more > reasearch about their true effectiveness. > > Glenn > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
Hello,
which *orgone sensor* are we talking about? Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 05:12 Subject: Re: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster > > I have ordered a number of the tower busters and the Holy Hand Grenade, > etc. I put a few under my bed and I woke up the next day feeling > horrible. I moved them to the corners of the room and felt better. > I have thrown a couple near the towers but still feel their effects. > I can't say that they work. There is an orgone sensing device that you > can buy on their website. I wonder if it will actually register on it > if you put a few out around the house. I am not going to buy the orgone > sensor. If you do, please let me know if the resin devices register a > difference. > Andrew > > On Oct 19, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Glenn Coleman wrote: > > > > >> This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more > >> experimentation > > > > I loved this comment. > > > > Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with these > > devices > > built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or aluminum > > shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. > > > > Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower > > Buster"? > > Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting good > > energy everywhere possible. > > > > Here is sites that shows how to build: > > > > www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm > > www.cloud-busters.com > > > > At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not sure > > that > > following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite gas > > station is what I would do. > > > > I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit more > > reasearch about their true effectiveness. > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
http://www.quebecorgone.com/
is where they have an orgone testing device. Andrew On Oct 20, 2004, at 2:58 AM, Charles wrote: > > Hello, > > which *orgone sensor* are we talking about? > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 05:12 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster > > >> >> I have ordered a number of the tower busters and the Holy Hand >> Grenade, >> etc. I put a few under my bed and I woke up the next day feeling >> horrible. I moved them to the corners of the room and felt better. >> I have thrown a couple near the towers but still feel their effects. >> I can't say that they work. There is an orgone sensing device that you >> can buy on their website. I wonder if it will actually register on it >> if you put a few out around the house. I am not going to buy the >> orgone >> sensor. If you do, please let me know if the resin devices register a >> difference. >> Andrew >> >> On Oct 19, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Glenn Coleman wrote: >> >>> >>>> This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more >>>> experimentation >>> >>> I loved this comment. >>> >>> Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with these >>> devices >>> built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or aluminum >>> shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. >>> >>> Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower >>> Buster"? >>> Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting >>> good >>> energy everywhere possible. >>> >>> Here is sites that shows how to build: >>> >>> www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm >>> www.cloud-busters.com >>> >>> At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not sure >>> that >>> following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite >>> gas >>> station is what I would do. >>> >>> I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit >>> more >>> reasearch about their true effectiveness. >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
Hello Andrew,
thank you for the answer. You mean the Experimental Life Energy Meter. That is not an orgone sensor. That is ea meter for determining the bioenergy of *things, like plants, fruit and people if you have the special measuring sonde. It took me quite a few months to figure out how to shield it from drift, because it is very sensitive. I would not know how one can measure orgone energy; How to place orgone on the sensor?? I have measured orgone, coming from an orgone accumulator, but I did that with a frequency counter. My orgone accumulator (the rusty bins) are at http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina163.html Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 15:01 Subject: Re: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster > > http://www.quebecorgone.com/ > is where they have an orgone testing device. > Andrew > On Oct 20, 2004, at 2:58 AM, Charles wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > which *orgone sensor* are we talking about? > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 05:12 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster > > > > > >> > >> I have ordered a number of the tower busters and the Holy Hand > >> Grenade, > >> etc. I put a few under my bed and I woke up the next day feeling > >> horrible. I moved them to the corners of the room and felt better. > >> I have thrown a couple near the towers but still feel their effects. > >> I can't say that they work. There is an orgone sensing device that you > >> can buy on their website. I wonder if it will actually register on it > >> if you put a few out around the house. I am not going to buy the > >> orgone > >> sensor. If you do, please let me know if the resin devices register a > >> difference. > >> Andrew > >> > >> On Oct 19, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Glenn Coleman wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>> This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more > >>>> experimentation > >>> > >>> I loved this comment. > >>> > >>> Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with these > >>> devices > >>> built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or aluminum > >>> shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. > >>> > >>> Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower > >>> Buster"? > >>> Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting > >>> good > >>> energy everywhere possible. > >>> > >>> Here is sites that shows how to build: > >>> > >>> www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm > >>> www.cloud-busters.com > >>> > >>> At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not sure > >>> that > >>> following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite > >>> gas > >>> station is what I would do. > >>> > >>> I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit > >>> more > >>> reasearch about their true effectiveness. > >>> > >>> Glenn > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
Thank you for clarifying the information on the Quebec Orgone website
for me. This is not my area of expertise and I would like some help with the difference between "energy content of humans" vs. orgone/chi etc. I will check out your website. Andrew On Oct 20, 2004, at 11:18 AM, Charles wrote: > > Hello Andrew, > > thank you for the answer. > You mean the Experimental Life Energy Meter. > > That is not an orgone sensor. > That is ea meter for determining the bioenergy of *things, like plants, > fruit and people if you have the special measuring sonde. > It took me quite a few months to figure out how to shield it from > drift, > because it is very sensitive. > I would not know how one can measure orgone energy; How to place > orgone on > the sensor?? > > I have measured orgone, coming from an orgone accumulator, but I did > that > with a frequency counter. > My orgone accumulator (the rusty bins) are at > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina163.html > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 15:01 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster > > >> >> http://www.quebecorgone.com/ >> is where they have an orgone testing device. >> Andrew >> On Oct 20, 2004, at 2:58 AM, Charles wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> which *orgone sensor* are we talking about? >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Charles Claessens >>> member Verband Baubiologie >>> www.milieuziektes.nl >>> www.hetbitje.nl >>> checked by Norton Antivirus >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> >>> To: <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 05:12 >>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Holy Hand Gernade & Tower Buster >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have ordered a number of the tower busters and the Holy Hand >>>> Grenade, >>>> etc. I put a few under my bed and I woke up the next day feeling >>>> horrible. I moved them to the corners of the room and felt better. >>>> I have thrown a couple near the towers but still feel their effects. >>>> I can't say that they work. There is an orgone sensing device that >>>> you >>>> can buy on their website. I wonder if it will actually register on >>>> it >>>> if you put a few out around the house. I am not going to buy the >>>> orgone >>>> sensor. If you do, please let me know if the resin devices register >>>> a >>>> difference. >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Glenn Coleman wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> This just gets weirder & weirder... Stay tuned... more >>>>>> experimentation >>>>> >>>>> I loved this comment. >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday I learned of another approach to EMF protection with >>>>> these >>>>> devices >>>>> built in your own basement, using quartz crystals, copper or >>>>> aluminum >>>>> shavings, and fibreglass or ployester resin. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone else had experience with "Holy Hand Gernade" or "Tower >>>>> Buster"? >>>>> Both are used for what they call "gifting with Orgone"; putting >>>>> good >>>>> energy everywhere possible. >>>>> >>>>> Here is sites that shows how to build: >>>>> >>>>> www.proliberty.com/observer/20030512.htm >>>>> www.cloud-busters.com >>>>> >>>>> At least it seems like a potentially low cost solution. I'm not >>>>> sure >>>>> that >>>>> following the authors method of placing these units at my favourite >>>>> gas >>>>> station is what I would do. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to try building one for my home & car, after I do a bit >>>>> more >>>>> reasearch about their true effectiveness. >>>>> >>>>> Glenn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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