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Thanks for the extra info Karen. Well it certainly sounds to me as if
something very major and strange happened in that mine. HF exposure is very
rare and just does not happen normally without you knowing about it, so it's
hard to see any other possible cause. Unfortunately it sounds like Canadian
legislation may be a bit different to UK on liability and compensation.
Over here, if I visit a customer site, they are liable for the consequences
of any accident or on-site activity they have that harms an employee,
contractor, consultant or other visitor. Insurance doesn't normally come
into it, except for possible adjustments between the company's insurance and
your own. Even so, of course, no amount of money can ever really compensate
for losing your health.

Best wishes, Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
tayloka_40
Sent: 15 March 2006 06:12
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Fluoride


You are welcome, Ian. My father was an engineer too, structural. Petroleum
engineering is
a new breed since my father went to school.

I put that "over" into quotes like that because although it was not said it
seemed to
translate back that way. I admit....after what I have been through...I am
pretty darn
amazed that all I am is just "oversensative" to this issue. Most would have
a target in the
crosshair and be bee spitting mad...if bees spit of course. Which I guess
they do when you
think they have to suck out that nectar and all.

*(Hey...we women do that...change subjects like that just to throw you boys
off. Just
adding a bit of brevity here, Ian.)

As for that coal company, I was NOT an employee, I was a private consultant
on contract
carrying my own insurance. Insurance in Canada, so I have learned, is a
complicated thing.

You know, being a chemical engineer, you can see where if that coal
mine...drag line
stripped was big enough, the contamination area from the exposed coal being
destabalized would be enourmous!

Maybe that is why kids are dropping dead up there. Right on the football
fields and ice
rinks. There is a rash of facial cancer here too...hmmmm....we are also
reporting incidents
of rare and almost unheard of autoimmune diseases such as Still's disease
and
Scleraderma.

There has been a rash of suicides, thyroid, multiple sclerosis, lymphoma,
liver cancers...in
fact, our local grocery store, Safeway, was offering FREE anemia screening
clinics.
Hmmmm...this is Canada here, Ian, NOT even Canada offers healthcare for
free. Becoming
anemic is classic symptom of radiation exposure.

Let me see, there are young women, my age falling asleep and not waking up.
Strange
drug interactions and reported deaths in hospital.

I don't know...call me silly.....call me a polly anna...but if I am mistaken
I am more than
willing to cough up a most humble apology...but my best professional opinion
is that was
a serious mine accident. One that affected more than just me.

Once they get over the radiation exposure consequences...the government here
might find
cause...oh in about 20 or 30 years when our death rate dramatically
increases and children
are still being born with rare bone diseases...maybe then they might figure
this out. But
then again maybe not.

Going through something like this changes a body, Ian....I approached the
coal mine, had
a long talk with the director....practically his whole family has died...his
wife, a colleague
who was at the mine also is suffering the cancer.

As for my symptoms, sadly, they are classic...right down to the brown
mottling on the
teeth and the lucency in my bones by x-ray. The teeth came rather quick. I
always had
good teeth and it bothers me. One thing I should point out, that mottling
only makes the
teeth strong for a short period of time, eventually the bone just goes away.
Like dust.

The extra fluoride zaps the water.

Oh well.....I appreciate the board for the expression of this information.
Be it ever so
controversial. Ian....you are a good sport.

No harm. No foul.

Warmy,

Karen

--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> Karen, thanks for the clarifications, I guess being a degree level
> chemist/chemical engineer myself, I like to be precise on the exact nature
> of chemicals and their effects - maybe too pedantic at times! Certainly I
> would never want to play down the dangers of hydrofluoric acid itself
which
> are well known (I remember my father, a chemistry teacher, showing us at
> school a picture of a lab worker who had had a pinhole in her rubber glove
> and whose finger was reduced inside a minute to a charred stump). I must
> admit I found it hard to understand (if I correctly interpreted your
> original posts some weeks back) how the company seemed to have managed to
> evade responsibility and compensation for the damage you were caused,
since in
> the form of
> hydrofluorosilicic acid). What is used in toothpaste is sodium fluoride.
>
> This being said, it is recognised by all industry reporting standards that
> hydrogen fluoride
> is regulated as a hazardous and toxic pollutant that requires special
> consideration for
> disposal and storage. The petroleum industry uses it pervasivly for
refining an every






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