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electromagneticzoe
Hi from Oz!

I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a wired mouse and keyboard :)

Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any other suggestions you might have.

Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

Thanks so much!

Cheers,
Zoe

PUK
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Re: Hi from Oz

PUK
look at magdahavas.org or environmental health trust
Next-up.org or electrosensitivity.uk
 
Australia is putting out some good independent studies on cell phone  
dangers etc, are you sure that they do not recognise ES ?
 
Any how keep your living simple on the technology front, buy a meter such  
as an electrosmog detector, triefeild meter or acousticom to check out your  
living spaces, but dont go mad with the meters.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 18/04/2011 14:45:38 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Hi from Oz!

I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF  sensitivity became so
bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the  process of getting
electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the  meantime I shut
the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is  still not
great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in  normal society
although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got  a wired
mouse and keyboard :)

Anyway I would like to be able to  integrate more with normal society
without feeling so ill so quickly! I was  wondering if there are any personal
recommendations people have on say  clothing shielding products and other
useful items eg laptop shields, low emf  phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as I'd
like to place an order with lessemf  sometime soon.

Would really appreciate feedback on products you  actually have and any
other suggestions you might have.

Also I was  wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
with me as this  is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware of
any support  groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

Thanks so  much!

Cheers,
Zoe





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Re: Hi from Oz

helen
In reply to this post by electromagneticzoe
Also from Oz!

There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES
is not recognised here.
In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to
tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.
The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart
from the odd story.

Kind Regards,
Helen

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe
<[hidden email]>wrote:

>
>
> Hi from Oz!
>
> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so
> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting
> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut
> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not
> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal
> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a
> wired mouse and keyboard :)
>
> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal
> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other
> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as
> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.
>
> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any
> other suggestions you might have.
>
> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware
> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Cheers,
> Zoe
>
>
>



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Re: Hi from Oz

S Andreason
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Hi Zoe,
electromagneticzoe wrote:
> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without feeling so ill so quickly!

I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding
high-tech emitting toys.

And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster
for social-oriented extroverts.


So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)
Stewart


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Re: Hi from Oz

Loni Rosser
In reply to this post by helen
Where is Oz?

--- On Tue, 4/19/11, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 4:55 AM


Also from Oz!

There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES
is not recognised here.
In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to
tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.
The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart
from the odd story.

Kind Regards,
Helen

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe
<[hidden email]>wrote:

>
>
> Hi from Oz!
>
> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so
> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting
> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut
> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not
> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal
> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a
> wired mouse and keyboard :)
>
> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal
> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other
> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as
> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.
>
> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any
> other suggestions you might have.
>
> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware
> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Cheers,
> Zoe
>
>
>



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Environomics.com.au <http://environomics.com.au/>
0448 877 384
03 9376 6338


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Re: Hi from Oz

calmriver1@juno.com
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You took your name from Tin Man, that was a really good sci-fi show. Is it in Austrailia?

Maureen


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Re: Hi from Oz

Marc Martin
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> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
>> without feeling so ill so quickly!
>
> I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding
> high-tech emitting toys.

Well, if one is able to successfully cure themselves of ES (as some
people have), then they shouldn't have a problem being surrounding
by people with smart phones, etc.

The most common cure for ES that I've seen so far is successfully
completing a heavy-metal detox, with mercury being a likely suspect.

Marc
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Re: Hi from Oz

Rixta Francis
In reply to this post by Loni Rosser
Grin, Oz is the Australian abbreviation for Australia. We call ourselves
Aussies, or Ozzies. It has nothing to do with the famous Wizard.:-)

Rixta

> Where is Oz?
>
> --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Helen Murphy<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>
> From: Helen Murphy<[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 4:55 AM
>
>
> Also from Oz!
>
> There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES
> is not recognised here.
> In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to
> tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.
> The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart
> from the odd story.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Helen
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi from Oz!
>>
>> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so
>> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting
>> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut
>> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not
>> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal
>> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a
>> wired mouse and keyboard :)
>>
>> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
>> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal
>> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other
>> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as
>> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.
>>
>> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any
>> other suggestions you might have.
>>
>> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
>> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware
>> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Zoe
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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electromagneticzoe
Double Grin, just a guess...Loni...American? ;)

Maybe some of us do have magical powers though ;)...well that's how it looks when you are holding so much charge(?) in your hands that when you try and stuff a beanbag all the beans fly far in the opposite direction!!! *sigh

--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

>
> Grin, Oz is the Australian abbreviation for Australia. We call ourselves
> Aussies, or Ozzies. It has nothing to do with the famous Wizard.:-)
>
> Rixta
> > Where is Oz?
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 4:55 AM
> >
> >
> > Also from Oz!
> >
> > There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES
> > is not recognised here.
> > In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to
> > tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.
> > The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart
> > from the odd story.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Helen
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe
> > <mscherrylane@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi from Oz!
> >>
> >> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so
> >> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting
> >> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut
> >> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not
> >> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal
> >> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a
> >> wired mouse and keyboard :)
> >>
> >> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
> >> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal
> >> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other
> >> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as
> >> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.
> >>
> >> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any
> >> other suggestions you might have.
> >>
> >> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
> >> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware
> >> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
> >>
> >> Thanks so much!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Zoe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis
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electromagneticzoe
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not to mention can you believe the lack of emf level regulation here? Sweden and Russia safety limits are soooo low compared to ours. I spoke to an american college graduate who had written his thesis on the matter and apparently the way they calculate regulation safety levels is by population density which of course is so idiotic since everyone lives on the coast and the vast centre of our country is so empty nad laregely unliveable!

--- In [hidden email], Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@...> wrote:

>
> Also from Oz!
>
> There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES
> is not recognised here.
> In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to
> tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.
> The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart
> from the odd story.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Helen
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe
> <mscherrylane@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi from Oz!
> >
> > I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so
> > bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting
> > electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut
> > the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not
> > great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal
> > society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a
> > wired mouse and keyboard :)
> >
> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
> > without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal
> > recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other
> > useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as
> > I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.
> >
> > Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any
> > other suggestions you might have.
> >
> > Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
> > with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware
> > of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
> >
> > Thanks so much!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Zoe
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics.com.au <http://environomics.com.au/>
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9376 6338
>
>
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Re: Hi from Oz

electromagneticzoe
In reply to this post by S Andreason

hey I talk to my plants ;)

no the issue I'm more worried about is how does one make a living with ehs since most ways to earn one involve being able to integrate with normal society, use emf radiating equipment etc...the way I am going seems like that infamous pioneer of EHS, the Swede Per Segerback!!! Who has to bury his electricity cables 30m from his house...But at least he is an engineer and knows how to do it, plus he gets support from his country!
--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Zoe,
> electromagneticzoe wrote:
> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without feeling so ill so quickly!
>
> I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding
> high-tech emitting toys.
>
> And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster
> for social-oriented extroverts.
>
>
> So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)
> Stewart
>


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electromagneticzoe
In reply to this post by calmriver1@juno.com
Um, nope, never heard of that show! My name is cos I am the realdeal :p...I have even caused weekly power surges in places where the residents had it happen just twice in 7 years...

--- In [hidden email], "calmriver1@..." <calmriver1@...> wrote:

>
> You took your name from Tin Man, that was a really good sci-fi show. Is it in Austrailia?
>
> Maureen
>
>
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electromagneticzoe
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Thanks for that. That's a very likely factor for me. I'm going to arrange to be tested as soon as I can find somewhere in this country where I can get one done!!! I have heard of certain "foods"like zeolite which help detoxify heavy metals- if you or anyone has used this with success could you please let me know? I have also heard that zeolite is snake oil...but if I do test full of heavy metals I will probably try to rectify with appropriate foods...

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
> >> without feeling so ill so quickly!
> >
> > I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding
> > high-tech emitting toys.
>
> Well, if one is able to successfully cure themselves of ES (as some
> people have), then they shouldn't have a problem being surrounding
> by people with smart phones, etc.
>
> The most common cure for ES that I've seen so far is successfully
> completing a heavy-metal detox, with mercury being a likely suspect.
>
> Marc
>


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Re: Hi from Oz

Marc Martin
Administrator
Typically, the experienced heavy metal detoxers will tell you that most
lab tests for heavy metals are meaningless.  However, some think that
the Doctors Data hair mineral test is useful if you know how to read
it.  Basically, the idea is that if your good minerals are all messed
up, that is a sign of toxicity.

I've heard good and bad things about zeolite.  Personally, I do think
it binds onto something, but I also know that I have little tolerance
for it.

One ex-member of this group cured themselves of ES using the Andy
Cutler frequent dosing protocol using alpha lipoic acid.  I know
others are doing that here as well.  I've been doing this for at
least 2 years now, and have noticed a little progress, but I
can't say for sure what to attribute that to.  I think most
people would probably be discouraged by such little progress over
such a long period of time, but I already know that most heavy
metal treatments just make me worse, so at least this treatment
hasn't done that.  And besides, they say to expect it a heavy
metal detox to take about 5 years to complete for serious
cases, and I think anyone who has ES probably is a serious case.

Marc
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Re: Hi from Oz

Loni Rosser
In reply to this post by electromagneticzoe
Yes I am American! How did you guess? ha ha  Loni

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Hi from Oz
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 6:14 AM


 



Double Grin, just a guess...Loni...American? ;)

Maybe some of us do have magical powers though ;)...well that's how it looks when you are holding so much charge(?) in your hands that when you try and stuff a beanbag all the beans fly far in the opposite direction!!! *sigh

--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

>
> Grin, Oz is the Australian abbreviation for Australia. We call ourselves
> Aussies, or Ozzies. It has nothing to do with the famous Wizard.:-)
>
> Rixta
> > Where is Oz?
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 4:55 AM
> >
> >
> > Also from Oz!
> >
> > There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES
> > is not recognised here.
> > In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to
> > tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.
> > The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart
> > from the odd story.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Helen
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe
> > <mscherrylane@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi from Oz!
> >>
> >> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so
> >> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting
> >> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut
> >> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not
> >> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal
> >> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a
> >> wired mouse and keyboard :)
> >>
> >> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society
> >> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal
> >> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other
> >> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as
> >> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.
> >>
> >> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any
> >> other suggestions you might have.
> >>
> >> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail
> >> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware
> >> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
> >>
> >> Thanks so much!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Zoe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis
>








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Re: Hi from Oz

Christina Steils
In reply to this post by electromagneticzoe
Plenty of help here too!
Best
Giles

--- On Wed, 20/4/11, electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Hi from Oz
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 14:14















 
 



 


   
     
     
      Double Grin, just a guess...Loni...American? ;)



Maybe some of us do have magical powers though ;)...well that's how it looks when you are holding so much charge(?) in your hands that when you try and stuff a beanbag all the beans fly far in the opposite direction!!! *sigh



--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

>

> Grin, Oz is the Australian abbreviation for Australia. We call ourselves

> Aussies, or Ozzies. It has nothing to do with the famous Wizard.:-)

>

> Rixta

> > Where is Oz?

> >

> > --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>  wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>

> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz

> > To: [hidden email]

> > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 4:55 AM

> >

> >

> > Also from Oz!

> >

> > There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES

> > is not recognised here.

> > In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to

> > tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.

> > The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart

> > from the odd story.

> >

> > Kind Regards,

> > Helen

> >

> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe

> > <mscherrylane@...>wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> Hi from Oz!

> >>

> >> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

> >> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

> >> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

> >> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

> >> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

> >> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

> >> wired mouse and keyboard :)

> >>

> >> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> >> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

> >> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

> >> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

> >> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

> >>

> >> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

> >> other suggestions you might have.

> >>

> >> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

> >> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

> >> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

> >>

> >> Thanks so much!

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >> Zoe

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

> --

> Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis

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Re: Hi from Oz

Christina Steils
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Sorry didnt put the link in!
http://www.es-uk.info/forums/index.asp
Best
Giles

--- On Wed, 20/4/11, electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Hi from Oz
To: [hidden email]
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      Double Grin, just a guess...Loni...American? ;)



Maybe some of us do have magical powers though ;)...well that's how it looks when you are holding so much charge(?) in your hands that when you try and stuff a beanbag all the beans fly far in the opposite direction!!! *sigh



--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

>

> Grin, Oz is the Australian abbreviation for Australia. We call ourselves

> Aussies, or Ozzies. It has nothing to do with the famous Wizard.:-)

>

> Rixta

> > Where is Oz?

> >

> > --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>  wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Helen Murphy<helenmurphybb@...>

> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz

> > To: [hidden email]

> > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 4:55 AM

> >

> >

> > Also from Oz!

> >

> > There are no groups in Oz that I am aware of Zoe and you are correct that ES

> > is not recognised here.

> > In fact most people believe you are just making up stories when you try to

> > tell them that their 3G phone is burning you.

> > The info from Europe and USA seems to not make it to the news here apart

> > from the odd story.

> >

> > Kind Regards,

> > Helen

> >

> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, electromagneticzoe

> > <mscherrylane@...>wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> Hi from Oz!

> >>

> >> I've just relocated out of the city because my EMF sensitivity became so

> >> bad...I've actually had to stop everything and am in the process of getting

> >> electrical and plumbing modifications on my house, in the meantime I shut

> >> the power down to the bedroom which has helped but my sleep is still not

> >> great. So I've become very isolated and not able to function in normal

> >> society although I am able to tolerate computer use better since I got a

> >> wired mouse and keyboard :)

> >>

> >> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society

> >> without feeling so ill so quickly! I was wondering if there are any personal

> >> recommendations people have on say clothing shielding products and other

> >> useful items eg laptop shields, low emf phones, antistatic mats etc etc...as

> >> I'd like to place an order with lessemf sometime soon.

> >>

> >> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any

> >> other suggestions you might have.

> >>

> >> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail

> >> with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware

> >> of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)

> >>

> >> Thanks so much!

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >> Zoe

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

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Re: Hi from Oz

johnlankes
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You might see if EMR Australia can do anything for you.
They have a good newsletter:

http://www.emraustralia.com.au/


John L.



--- In [hidden email], "electromagneticzoe" <mscherrylane@...> wrote:

>> Would really appreciate feedback on products you actually have and any other suggestions you might have.
>
> Also I was wondering if any sufferers would like to email or snail mail with me as this is not a recognised problem in Australia and I'm not aware of any support groups here. (If you know of any please let me know!)
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Cheers,
> Zoe



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Re: Hi from Oz

evie15422
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Hi, Zoe and Stewart,
 
I agree, Stewart.  However, I do find some companionship doing some things like bike riding, going hiking, picnicing in nature, and gardening.....  If I were younger (I am 60), I would do more sports activities like white water rafting, kiyacking, join an outdoor yoga group, team sports out doors....  But I found it easiest to join an art club (which paints outdoors in summer), a gardening group, and the like.  Once I made friends in the groups, they usually would turn their cell phones off if they were bothering me. 
 
Right now, I am too preoccupied with family needs to be active in anything or even keep up with my online friends!  (Of which I have many great and lasting friendships.)  BTW, I also have dietary restrictions which limit my friendships--I can only feed my friends, we cannot go out to a restaurant or they cannot cook for me.  So, it is doable, but you have to really think outside the box.
 
Good luck, Zoe.  If I were not up to my eyeballs in alligators, right now, I would welcome your friendship and snail mail. 

Diane

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From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hi from Oz
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 11:16 AM


 



Hi Zoe,
electromagneticzoe wrote:
> Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without feeling so ill so quickly!

I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding
high-tech emitting toys.

And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster
for social-oriented extroverts.

So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)
Stewart








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evie15422
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Zoe,
 
What are you good at?  I think most ESsers work from home in some capacity. 
 
Diane

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: electromagneticzoe <[hidden email]>
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hey I talk to my plants ;)

no the issue I'm more worried about is how does one make a living with ehs since most ways to earn one involve being able to integrate with normal society, use emf radiating equipment etc...the way I am going seems like that infamous pioneer of EHS, the Swede Per Segerback!!! Who has to bury his electricity cables 30m from his house...But at least he is an engineer and knows how to do it, plus he gets support from his country!
--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Zoe,
> electromagneticzoe wrote:
> > Anyway I would like to be able to integrate more with normal society without feeling so ill so quickly!
>
> I don't feel it is possible unless your friends are also avoiding
> high-tech emitting toys.
>
> And you still have to avoid public places, so having ES is a disaster
> for social-oriented extroverts.
>
>
> So says the introvert with a couple horses for friends :)
> Stewart
>








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