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furstc0404-2


Can ES cause or trigger seizures?
Or could it be raw tumeric, which
brought on immediate reaction.

I had horrid neurological symptoms post reactions
to two meds and vaccines.

> > These subsided and although, never went away
> > completely, the seizures were not as acute.
> >
> > I have been taking Ayurvedic meds for a year now.
> > There was some improvement without suffering
> > any toxicity or side effects.
> >
> > Against the wishes of my Ayurvedic doctor, I
> > ate raw tumeric from the rhizome, uncooked.
> >
> > There were slight reactions, but I ate this for
> > a week, until, I could not longer do so.
> >
> > Since, I have many worsening symptoms, including
> > seizures. Today's seizure was quite severe,
> > as well as other sensation, such as floor and wall
> > moving, sensation of severe vertigo, as if brain swimming
> > in head, etc...
> >
> > I read that tumeric contains some polyphenols to which
> > I am very sensitive, and should avoid. It causes toxicity
> > if the liver is toxic (as in toxic hepatitis), crosses the
> > blood brain barrier and known to cause nasty symptoms.
> >
> > I also read that some compounds in foods can even
> > cause vasculitis, if the liver is not functioning.
> > Several liver pathways are dysfunctional already.
> >
> > I can eat very few foods as it is am ultra vigilant
> > about what I eat.
> >
> > I was also exposed to paint, carpet fumes and solvent
> > two weeks ago. Could this (I have severe MCS) and the
> > raw tumeric cause a relapse in seizures and other neurological
> > sensation?
> >
> > What can be done?

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Re: Help - seizures

BiBrun
You would not be the first to get seizures associated with EHS.

Very low AC fields (0.002 milligauss) may be helpful.
Probably have to be about a mile from the nearest power line,
and 5 miles from any transmission lines.

If you are chemically sensitive then a lot of things that help
others could be bad for you.

Bill

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:31 PM, furstc0404 <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Can ES cause or trigger seizures?
> Or could it be raw tumeric, which
> brought on immediate reaction.
>
> I had horrid neurological symptoms post reactions
> to two meds and vaccines.
> > > These subsided and although, never went away
> > > completely, the seizures were not as acute.
> > >
> > > I have been taking Ayurvedic meds for a year now.
> > > There was some improvement without suffering
> > > any toxicity or side effects.
> > >
> > > Against the wishes of my Ayurvedic doctor, I
> > > ate raw tumeric from the rhizome, uncooked.
> > >
> > > There were slight reactions, but I ate this for
> > > a week, until, I could not longer do so.
> > >
> > > Since, I have many worsening symptoms, including
> > > seizures. Today's seizure was quite severe,
> > > as well as other sensation, such as floor and wall
> > > moving, sensation of severe vertigo, as if brain swimming
> > > in head, etc...
> > >
> > > I read that tumeric contains some polyphenols to which
> > > I am very sensitive, and should avoid. It causes toxicity
> > > if the liver is toxic (as in toxic hepatitis), crosses the
> > > blood brain barrier and known to cause nasty symptoms.
> > >
> > > I also read that some compounds in foods can even
> > > cause vasculitis, if the liver is not functioning.
> > > Several liver pathways are dysfunctional already.
> > >
> > > I can eat very few foods as it is am ultra vigilant
> > > about what I eat.
> > >
> > > I was also exposed to paint, carpet fumes and solvent
> > > two weeks ago. Could this (I have severe MCS) and the
> > > raw tumeric cause a relapse in seizures and other neurological
> > > sensation?
> > >
> > > What can be done?
>
>  
>


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Re: Help - seizures

Andrew McAfee
No one will get seizures from ES. ES is the symptom of something else
going wrong (brain cancer, toxic load in brain or spine, MS, etc). You
will get seizures from that something else that we are all trying to
delineate.
A) toxic load on the cell, B) cells that have the wrong kind of fats
so can't process out toxins, C) vaccine induced auto-immune response
to the protective myelin sheath or other body part, D) a viral/
bacterial/fungi or other infection that leads to ES and E) all of the
above and more can lead to a condition that is ES.
Tumeric is a terrific herb that helps the body reduce inflammation and
increase detoxification. So if you are getting a horrible action from
tumeric, then you know you have a toxic load (at least).
I am an advocate of the Budwig Diet (Hemp Oil or Flax Oil with organic
cottage cheese, coffee enemas for liver cleansing, etc.) and other
cell supportive regimens to get your cells functioning again so you
can then do heavier detoxing and bug killing to get back to "normal."
Go slow!
All my best to you,
Andrew



On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:

> You would not be the first to get seizures associated with EHS.
>
> Very low AC fields (0.002 milligauss) may be helpful.
> Probably have to be about a mile from the nearest power line,
> and 5 miles from any transmission lines.
>
> If you are chemically sensitive then a lot of things that help
> others could be bad for you.
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:31 PM, furstc0404 <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Can ES cause or trigger seizures?
>> Or could it be raw tumeric, which
>> brought on immediate reaction.
>>
>> I had horrid neurological symptoms post reactions
>> to two meds and vaccines.
>>>> These subsided and although, never went away
>>>> completely, the seizures were not as acute.
>>>>
>>>> I have been taking Ayurvedic meds for a year now.
>>>> There was some improvement without suffering
>>>> any toxicity or side effects.
>>>>
>>>> Against the wishes of my Ayurvedic doctor, I
>>>> ate raw tumeric from the rhizome, uncooked.
>>>>
>>>> There were slight reactions, but I ate this for
>>>> a week, until, I could not longer do so.
>>>>
>>>> Since, I have many worsening symptoms, including
>>>> seizures. Today's seizure was quite severe,
>>>> as well as other sensation, such as floor and wall
>>>> moving, sensation of severe vertigo, as if brain swimming
>>>> in head, etc...
>>>>
>>>> I read that tumeric contains some polyphenols to which
>>>> I am very sensitive, and should avoid. It causes toxicity
>>>> if the liver is toxic (as in toxic hepatitis), crosses the
>>>> blood brain barrier and known to cause nasty symptoms.
>>>>
>>>> I also read that some compounds in foods can even
>>>> cause vasculitis, if the liver is not functioning.
>>>> Several liver pathways are dysfunctional already.
>>>>
>>>> I can eat very few foods as it is am ultra vigilant
>>>> about what I eat.
>>>>
>>>> I was also exposed to paint, carpet fumes and solvent
>>>> two weeks ago. Could this (I have severe MCS) and the
>>>> raw tumeric cause a relapse in seizures and other neurological
>>>> sensation?
>>>>
>>>> What can be done?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: Help - seizures

furstc0404-2


Hi Andrew

Fnx for your input.

Agree about toxic load.  Seizures started after
adverse reactions to two prescribed meds.

The problem here is that I can tolerate very few foods,
most compounds in foods now, in particular, polyphenols
are really toxic.

I can't tolerate any oils, but may give the flax seed oil
and cottage cheese a whirl.  Might be able to tolerate,

Likewise, can't tolerate foods with sulphur, etc...

Am taking Ayurvedic compounds, which are gentle
and no side effects for a year or so now.

I was told that tumeric is not advise if liver pathways
are not functioning.

The neurological symptoms are horrid and unpleasant.
I hope they dissipate soon.

Kooky

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Help - seizures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 8:32 AM







 



 


   
     
     
No one will get seizures from ES. ES is the symptom of something else  

going wrong (brain cancer, toxic load in brain or spine, MS, etc). You  

will get seizures from that something else that we are all trying to  

delineate.

A) toxic load on the cell, B) cells that have the wrong kind of fats  

so can't process out toxins, C) vaccine induced auto-immune response  

to the protective myelin sheath or other body part, D) a viral/

bacterial/fungi or other infection that leads to ES and E) all of the  

above and more can lead to a condition that is ES.

Tumeric is a terrific herb that helps the body reduce inflammation and  

increase detoxification. So if you are getting a horrible action from  

tumeric, then you know you have a toxic load (at least).

I am an advocate of the Budwig Diet (Hemp Oil or Flax Oil with organic  

cottage cheese, coffee enemas for liver cleansing, etc.) and other  

cell supportive regimens to get your cells functioning again so you  

can then do heavier detoxing and bug killing to get back to "normal."

Go slow!

All my best to you,

Andrew



On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Bill Bruno wrote:



> You would not be the first to get seizures associated with EHS.

>

> Very low AC fields (0.002 milligauss) may be helpful.

> Probably have to be about a mile from the nearest power line,

> and 5 miles from any transmission lines.

>

> If you are chemically sensitive then a lot of things that help

> others could be bad for you.

>

> Bill

>

> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:31 PM, furstc0404 <[hidden email]>  

> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Can ES cause or trigger seizures?

>> Or could it be raw tumeric, which

>> brought on immediate reaction.

>>

>> I had horrid neurological symptoms post reactions

>> to two meds and vaccines.

>>>> These subsided and although, never went away

>>>> completely, the seizures were not as acute.

>>>>

>>>> I have been taking Ayurvedic meds for a year now.

>>>> There was some improvement without suffering

>>>> any toxicity or side effects.

>>>>

>>>> Against the wishes of my Ayurvedic doctor, I

>>>> ate raw tumeric from the rhizome, uncooked.

>>>>

>>>> There were slight reactions, but I ate this for

>>>> a week, until, I could not longer do so.

>>>>

>>>> Since, I have many worsening symptoms, including

>>>> seizures. Today's seizure was quite severe,

>>>> as well as other sensation, such as floor and wall

>>>> moving, sensation of severe vertigo, as if brain swimming

>>>> in head, etc...

>>>>

>>>> I read that tumeric contains some polyphenols to which

>>>> I am very sensitive, and should avoid. It causes toxicity

>>>> if the liver is toxic (as in toxic hepatitis), crosses the

>>>> blood brain barrier and known to cause nasty symptoms.

>>>>

>>>> I also read that some compounds in foods can even

>>>> cause vasculitis, if the liver is not functioning.

>>>> Several liver pathways are dysfunctional already.

>>>>

>>>> I can eat very few foods as it is am ultra vigilant

>>>> about what I eat.

>>>>

>>>> I was also exposed to paint, carpet fumes and solvent

>>>> two weeks ago. Could this (I have severe MCS) and the

>>>> raw tumeric cause a relapse in seizures and other neurological

>>>> sensation?

>>>>

>>>> What can be done?

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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>

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Re: Help - seizures

Marc Martin
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> Likewise, can't tolerate foods with sulphur, etc...

Can you tolerate taking molybdenum? That's supposed
to fix one of the problems with sulphur intolerance.

That is the problem when we become so intolerant of
EVERYTHING -- the standard advice that works for
most people becomes unacceptable.

Marc

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stephen_vandevijvere
Marc, thanks for the tip,

I've been diagnosed kinesiology-wise intolerant to sulfur, although I stilleat meat, because well you can't skip on everything! I'm also low on Molybdenum (blood and hair test) so there could be a link as you mention.

Stephen.




--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

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> > Likewise, can't tolerate foods with sulphur, etc...
>
> Can you tolerate taking molybdenum? That's supposed
> to fix one of the problems with sulphur intolerance.
>
> That is the problem when we become so intolerant of
> EVERYTHING -- the standard advice that works for
> most people becomes unacceptable.
>
> Marc
>

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Marc Martin
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> I've been diagnosed kinesiology-wise intolerant to sulfur, although I
> still eat meat, because well you can't skip on everything! I'm also low
> on Molybdenum (blood and hair test) so there could be a link as you
> mention.

Of course, if you are really low in molybdenum, you may not be able to
tolerate much of it in supplement form either (due to the detox it will
provoke). I'm using "Moly-B" from Carlson, but I only take 1/4 of a
tablet at a time (a full tablet will make me feel bad).

Note that Moly-B this is not an "organic" form of molybdenum, although
it is chelated to the amino acid glycine, so it should be absorbable.

Marc

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stephen_vandevijvere
Ok, thanks I see, yes I have Molybdenum suppl here since last week but haven't tried it yet, may try the Moly-B.

Have taken 1/2 daily pill of organic Manganese 2 days ago for the first time and from these organic suppl I don't get a headache but it seems to upsetmy pancreas, which is much worse probably!

Oh well, I should be more patient ;-)

Stephen.




--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > I've been diagnosed kinesiology-wise intolerant to sulfur, although I
> > still eat meat, because well you can't skip on everything! I'm also low
> > on Molybdenum (blood and hair test) so there could be a link as you
> > mention.
>
> Of course, if you are really low in molybdenum, you may not be able to
> tolerate much of it in supplement form either (due to the detox it will
> provoke). I'm using "Moly-B" from Carlson, but I only take 1/4 of a
> tablet at a time (a full tablet will make me feel bad).
>
> Note that Moly-B this is not an "organic" form of molybdenum, although
> it is chelated to the amino acid glycine, so it should be absorbable.
>
> Marc
>