Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? He is very very sensitive. 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? Many thanks Kooky |
Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives.
In that case a piezo telephones can be advised. Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic fields. In that case a radio with batteries can be advised. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "furstc0404" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: [eSens] Help - Two Questions > > > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. > > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? > He is very very sensitive. > > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? > > Many thanks > > Kooky > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
Charles, What is a piezo telephone?? He is using a tiny 2 cm radio, with batteries, and even this, he only tolerate for a few mins? Any suggestions?? --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives. > In that case a piezo telephones can be advised. > > Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic > fields. > In that case a radio with batteries can be advised. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:25 PM > Subject: [eSens] Help - Two Questions > > > > > > > > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. > > > > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? > > He is very very sensitive. > > > > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion > > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to > > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Kooky > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo element,
without a strong magnet. Like http://www.vitalitools.nl/nl/communicatie/litefon.php That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression. Which country are yoy from ? I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body. Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "furstc0404" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions > > > Charles, > > What is a piezo telephone?? > > He is using a tiny 2 cm radio, with batteries, > and even this, he only tolerate for a few mins? > > Any suggestions?? > > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: >> >> Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives. >> In that case a piezo telephones can be advised. >> >> Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic >> fields. >> In that case a radio with batteries can be advised. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Norton >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:25 PM >> Subject: [eSens] Help - Two Questions >> >> >> > >> > >> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. >> > >> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? >> > He is very very sensitive. >> > >> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion >> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to >> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? >> > >> > Many thanks >> > >> > Kooky >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
Thanks Charles, I live in London, UK. Kooky --- On Sun, 2/28/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:09 PM A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo element, without a strong magnet. Like http://www.vitalito ols.nl/nl/ communicatie/ litefon.php That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression. Which country are yoy from ? I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body. Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes. nl www.milieuziektes. be www.hetbitje. nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@yahoo. com> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions > > > Charles, > > What is a piezo telephone?? > > He is using a tiny 2 cm radio, with batteries, > and even this, he only tolerate for a few mins? > > Any suggestions? ? > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@... > wrote: >> >> Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives. >> In that case a piezo telephones can be advised. >> >> Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic >> fields. >> In that case a radio with batteries can be advised. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes. nl >> www.milieuziektes. be >> www.hetbitje. nl >> checked by Norton >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@ ...> >> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:25 PM >> Subject: [eSens] Help - Two Questions >> >> >> > >> > >> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. >> > >> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? >> > He is very very sensitive. >> > >> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion >> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to >> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? >> > >> > Many thanks >> > >> > Kooky >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
There are some speakerphones that don't plug into the AC power that may be
OK. Filtering the phoneline may help. A paper cup with a hole over the bottom may be taped to the phone so it is not so close to the ear. You could also try mu metal around the phone's speaker... Bill On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Charles, > > I live in London, UK. > > Kooky > > --- On Sun, 2/28/10, charles <[hidden email]<charles%40milieuziektes.be>> > wrote: > > From: charles <[hidden email] <charles%40milieuziektes.be>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:09 PM > > > > > A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo > element, > > without a strong magnet. > > Like http://www.vitalito ols.nl/nl/ communicatie/ litefon.php > > > That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression. > > Which country are yoy from ? > > I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body. > > Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters. > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes. nl > > www.milieuziektes. be > > www.hetbitje. nl > > checked by Norton > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@yahoo. com> > > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:52 PM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions > > > > > > > > > Charles, > > > > > > What is a piezo telephone?? > > > > > > He is using a tiny 2 cm radio, with batteries, > > > and even this, he only tolerate for a few mins? > > > > > > Any suggestions? ? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@... > wrote: > > >> > > >> Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives. > > >> In that case a piezo telephones can be advised. > > >> > > >> Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic > > >> fields. > > >> In that case a radio with batteries can be advised. > > >> > > >> Greetings, > > >> Charles Claessens > > >> member Verband Baubiologie > > >> www.milieuziektes. nl > > >> www.milieuziektes. be > > >> www.hetbitje. nl > > >> checked by Norton > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@ ...> > > >> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> > > >> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:25 PM > > >> Subject: [eSens] Help - Two Questions > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. > > >> > > > >> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? > > >> > He is very very sensitive. > > >> > > > >> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion > > >> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to > > >> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? > > >> > > > >> > Many thanks > > >> > > > >> > Kooky > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >> > > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Perhaps you could ask where those piezo telephones are sold in the UK.
- http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/ - http://www.mast-victims.org, who have also a forum Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kooky" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions Thanks Charles, I live in London, UK. Kooky --- On Sun, 2/28/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:09 PM A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo element, without a strong magnet. Like http://www.vitalito ols.nl/nl/ communicatie/ litefon.php That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression. Which country are yoy from ? I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body. Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes. nl www.milieuziektes. be www.hetbitje. nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@yahoo. com> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Help - Two Questions > > > Charles, > > What is a piezo telephone?? > > He is using a tiny 2 cm radio, with batteries, > and even this, he only tolerate for a few mins? > > Any suggestions? ? > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@... > wrote: >> >> Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives. >> In that case a piezo telephones can be advised. >> >> Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic >> fields. >> In that case a radio with batteries can be advised. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes. nl >> www.milieuziektes. be >> www.hetbitje. nl >> checked by Norton >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "furstc0404" <furstc0404@ ...> >> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:25 PM >> Subject: [eSens] Help - Two Questions >> >> >> > >> > >> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. >> > >> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? >> > He is very very sensitive. >> > >> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion >> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to >> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? >> > >> > Many thanks >> > >> > Kooky >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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In a message dated 01/03/2010 07:43:45 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: >> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers. >> > >> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency??? >> > He is very very sensitive. >> > >> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion >> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to >> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? >> > >> > Many thanks >> > >> > Kooky PUK replies - MP3s are a problem for me after say 15mins use, I simply want to tear the headphones off despite enjoying the music. I put this down to the EMF pulses and spikes that are emitted by the headphones, any speaker type device that uses electromagnets will do this, perhaps using a very good quality old tape walkman would be better, less electronics ? As for radios I dont have a problem with these as I am never more than 500mm from these and obviously listen via the external speaker, but generally only use battery powered ones. As for old landline phones, I have had a problem with these for over 10yrs, holding the handset to my ear cuases strangley enough a stinging sensation which is more pronounced on the otherside of my head, the usual fuzziness also occurs along with slower speech. I took an old speaker phone and modified it by taking out the microphone and extending it onto a long wire then attaching the mic to a small wooden pencil (non conductive)as a holder, this worked well as I could get my distance from the telephone and the socket, but still hear the caller very well. I have since found a speaker phone that has such good quality sound that I dont need the extender to use it as the mic is very sensitive. I found that one of the reasons I could not tolerate landline phones, - one they use a spaeker in the handset which osscilates/pulses every time the caller speaks (that may include disturbing background sounds as well) two, I found as most people on the site may recall that my telephone cabling and my house wiring are contaminated to a VERY excessive degree with the with low frequency signal emissions from a Plasma TV over the road ! The signal seems unbelievably adept at crossing over and coupling to anything conductive ( we must all be in a big circuit) so the phone was litterally transfering this into my head and body, I hasten to say that this phenomenon may have increased my ES exponentially over the last few years, despite ironically working from home ( no more offices!) so watch out as telephone lines more so than the actual telephone ie landline type can be the harbinger of untold emissions ! Using a wireless phone a least gives you a gap from this, but then gives you another problem. puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion
> phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone? We get many inquiries from people who are too sensitive to use a standard telephone handset. We recommend using a corded phone which has a jack for a headset. Then add an air tube headset with as many extension cords as necessary. See http://www.lessemf.com/es.html#725 Emil |
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