Have I made myself permanently sun sensitive?

I have really bad chronic Lyme disease & all my Lyme friends told me that w/ certain antibiotics, you MUST cover up COMPLETELY (incl. gloves, baseball cap w/ veil, sun umbrella, sneakers, etc.) when taking certain antibiotics, or you can make yourself permanently sun-sensitive. I had to go to the ER yesterday, & was way too sick to even think about this. As of last nite, I'm taking two 500 mg pills of Cipro (an antimicrobial) per day, & also got a week-long course of Doxycycline & Bactrum. All the bottles say "AVOID PROLONGED OR EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO DIRECT AND/OR ARTIFICIAL SUNLIGHT WHILE TAKING THIS MEDICINE." I took 2 Cipro (ciprofloxacin) so far, 1 yesterday at the ER, & 1 this morning, when I filled the prescription. How do I know if I've already become sun sensitive? (As of this afternoon, my skin seems to be reactig to cold water as though it's hot, & my skin burns a lot, everywhere, which I initially thought was a rxn to Lyme die-off). Is there
 anything I can do at this point, that's worth doing, in response to some direct prolonged exposure to sunlight today (45 min.) & yesterday, that would prevent my being permanently sun sensitive? Please let me know ASAP. I'm already so sick from Lyme, bug bites etc., & the ER doc didn't tell me about this when he gave me the Cipro. I also got a really bad ocular migraine this morning, perhaps because I stayed in the car in the very sunny parking lot for 45 min. while wating for my ER Rx to be filled (the rest of the ciprofloxacin). Thought it was a reaction to yesterday's cipro pill, which the doc gave me without telling me anything about it, & I was too sick to ask questions. Since all my antibiotic bottles say that warning, I'm not sure if ciprofloxacin is one of the ones that could make me permanently sun sensitive, if that's what caused the ocular migraine(?) & if I'm already permanently sun-sensitive. Thanks. Love to all of you handling all this
 crap that is more than 1 single human being can handle. :)

-Elysia 


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elysia, if you sat in a hot car, you might also have been dehydrated.
are you drinking lots of good water?  
i'm sorry you are so 'challenged' right now with all these physical problems.
i hope you get well soon.  
love, patricia


On May 19, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Elysia Drew <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have really bad chronic Lyme disease & all my Lyme friends told me that w/ certain antibiotics, you MUST cover up COMPLETELY (incl. gloves, baseball cap w/ veil, sun umbrella, sneakers, etc.) when taking certain antibiotics, or you can make yourself permanently sun-sensitive. I had to go to the ER yesterday, & was way too sick to even think about this. As of last nite, I'm taking two 500 mg pills of Cipro (an antimicrobial) per day, & also got a week-long course of Doxycycline & Bactrum. All the bottles say "AVOID PROLONGED OR EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO DIRECT AND/OR ARTIFICIAL SUNLIGHT WHILE TAKING THIS MEDICINE." I took 2 Cipro (ciprofloxacin) so far, 1 yesterday at the ER, & 1 this morning, when I filled the prescription. How do I know if I've already become sun sensitive? (As of this afternoon, my skin seems to be reactig to cold water as though it's hot, & my skin burns a lot, everywhere, which I initially thought was a rxn to Lyme die-off). Is there
> anything I can do at this point, that's worth doing, in response to some direct prolonged exposure to sunlight today (45 min.) & yesterday, that would prevent my being permanently sun sensitive? Please let me know ASAP. I'm already so sick from Lyme, bug bites etc., & the ER doc didn't tell me about this when he gave me the Cipro. I also got a really bad ocular migraine this morning, perhaps because I stayed in the car in the very sunny parking lot for 45 min. while wating for my ER Rx to be filled (the rest of the ciprofloxacin). Thought it was a reaction to yesterday's cipro pill, which the doc gave me without telling me anything about it, & I was too sick to ask questions. Since all my antibiotic bottles say that warning, I'm not sure if ciprofloxacin is one of the ones that could make me permanently sun sensitive, if that's what caused the ocular migraine(?) & if I'm already permanently sun-sensitive. Thanks. Love to all of you handling all this
> crap that is more than 1 single human being can handle. :)
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> -Elysia
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Elisa,

Please be aware of the Black box warnings with Cipro & all Quinolone drugs

See the Quinolones<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinolones#Black_box_warnings>article
for a discussion of the history of these warnings and the role of
public advocacy groups in their inclusion in the product label.

As of 2011, the FDA has added two black box
warnings<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box_warnings>for this drug
in reference to spontaneous tendon ruptures and because
ciprofloxacin may cause worsening of myasthenia
gravis<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasthenia_gravis>symptoms,
including muscle weakness and potentially life-threatening
breathing problems.[40]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin#cite_note-40>A
case control study
[41] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin#cite_note-41> performed
using a UK medical care database found that fluoroquinolone use was
associated with a 1.9-fold increase in tendon problems. The relative risk
increased to 3.2 in those over 60 years of age and to 6.2 in those over the
age of 60 who were also taking corticosteroids. Among the 46,766 quinolone
users in the study, 38 (0.1%) cases of Achilles tendon rupture were
identified. A study performed using an Italian healthcare database reached
qualitatively similar
conclusions.[42]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin#cite_note-42>

Tendonitis and other forms of tendon damage may manifest during
fluoroquinolone therapy, and long after it had been
discontinued.[43]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin#cite_note-43>


<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin#cite_note-43>


<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin#cite_note-43>


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Don't forget to take a strong probiotic while on the meds and for at least 2 weeks after. I take them every day. The antibiotics will kill your good flora, the probiotics will add them back.
Also take milk thistle when you're done to clear them out of your liver.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

Elysia

I am not sure what you mean by sun sensitive.

My eyes had been extremely sensitive to sunlight since I was young; I had to wear sun glasses in winter daylight & it wasn't sunny at all; sunny day I had to wear extra dark sun glass plus hat. Basically my eyes couldn't cope with normal broad day light

Since my biontology treatment last yr; my eye sensitivity have all gone & I was so happy as if it was the first time in my life that my eyes were so comfortable in blazing sun in Hong Kong & Thailand without sun glass & hat at all. Biontology says light sensitivity of eyes are due to liver problem.

alice

--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

Sun sensitivity/photo sensitivity  in this case means:
certain medications can cause severe sun burn when
the person is exposed to the sun.
This is like a very very BAD sunburn!
the kind where you feel/look like a lobster...
or a newbie who went to florida, who has fair skin,
who went out on a boat and didn't use sunscreen
or common sense!
For those who are sensitive to the sun/light? Meaning bright lights tend
to bother your eyes:
Much of this is thyroid being low.
 
The more low the thyroid is, the more the light actually hurts the eyes...
and this is why, even in my state of MIchigan, which is not like Florida
regarding the sun...you see so many people wearing sunglasses even
when its not that sunny out. This is corrected with thyroid support.
 
this is not the same as those who are bothered by Flourescent lighting.
The flicker in those lights, along with the high emfs the ballasts put out,
and the mercury fumes those lights emit...are a common feature with
many Essers.
Once you are subject to what Elysia is talkign about, yes, there is a high chance
the body will become very sensitive, because the skin having been burned this
way, takes awhile to fully heal.
Lavender essential oil, diluted (only therapuetic grade!) sprayed on sun burned
skin, is something I have found that works very well. It will take the "burn" out,
and help the skin heal faster.
Milk used to do the the trick, but regular milk is not potent anymore...raw organic
milk is potent and helpful for severe sunburns.
 
I wouldn't go as far to say this is a "permanent" condition; however. long sleeved
shirts/ collars covering the neck area, hats, ect are essential to keeping this skin
protected during the healing process. And avoidance to the sun will also quicken
the healing.
What you want to avoid is "getting a burn on top of a burn!"
Healing rates will vary according to individual situations.
 
Blessings,
Lizzie
 
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I am not sure what you mean by sun sensitive.



My eyes had been extremely sensitive to sunlight since I was young; I had to wear sun glasses in winter daylight & it wasn't sunny at all; sunny day I had to wear extra dark sun glass plus hat. Basically my eyes couldn't cope with normal broad day light



Since my biontology treatment last yr; my eye sensitivity have all gone & I was so happy as if it was the first time in my life that my eyes were so comfortable in blazing sun in Hong Kong & Thailand without sun glass & hat at all. Biontology says light sensitivity of eyes are due to liver problem.



alice



--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

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> I have really bad chronic Lyme disease & all my Lyme friends told me that w/ certain antibiotics, you MUST cover up COMPLETELY (incl. gloves, baseball cap w/ veil, sun umbrella, sneakers, etc.) when taking certain antibiotics, or you can make yourself permanently sun-sensitive. I had to go to the ER yesterday, & was way too sick to even think about this. As of last nite, I'm taking two 500 mg pills of Cipro (an antimicrobial) per day, & also got a week-long course of Doxycycline & Bactrum. All the bottles say "AVOID PROLONGED OR EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO DIRECT AND/OR ARTIFICIAL SUNLIGHT WHILE TAKING THIS MEDICINE." I took 2 Cipro (ciprofloxacin) so far, 1 yesterday at the ER, & 1 this morning, when I filled the prescription. How do I know if I've already become sun sensitive? (As of this afternoon, my skin seems to be reactig to cold water as though it's hot, & my skin burns a lot, everywhere, which I initially thought was a rxn to Lyme die-off). Is there

>  anything I can do at this point, that's worth doing, in response to some direct prolonged exposure to sunlight today (45 min.) & yesterday, that would prevent my being permanently sun sensitive? Please let me know ASAP. I'm already so sick from Lyme, bug bites etc., & the ER doc didn't tell me about this when he gave me the Cipro. I also got a really bad ocular migraine this morning, perhaps because I stayed in the car in the very sunny parking lot for 45 min. while wating for my ER Rx to be filled (the rest of the ciprofloxacin). Thought it was a reaction to yesterday's cipro pill, which the doc gave me without telling me anything about it, & I was too sick to ask questions. Since all my antibiotic bottles say that warning, I'm not sure if ciprofloxacin is one of the ones that could make me permanently sun sensitive, if that's what caused the ocular migraine(?) & if I'm already permanently sun-sensitive. Thanks. Love to all of you handling all this

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Lizzie;

many thanks again for your informative clarifications, I have much to learn about many things!

There are many users comments on astaxanthin helps to internally protect skin from sun burn; do folks here find it useful?

blessings
alice

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

It definitely works for me as protection against sunburn. It also makes my skin look and feel younger.

Rolf


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On May 21, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The more low the thyroid is, the more the light actually hurts the eyes...

great info, lizzie.  
i became curious, reading it, about the effects of magnesium on thyroid, if any, and i found this…  this is especially interesting:  "Magnesium is important for iodine absorption, and so if someone is taking high dosages of iodine then they will need to take higher dosages of magnesium."  from http://www.naturalendocrinesolutions.com/articles/magnesium-thyroid-health/

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How Does Magnesium Relate To Thyroid Health?

Magnesium is an essential cofactor for calcitonin, which is produced by the parafollicular cells of the thyroid gland.  When released this reduces calcium levels in the blood.  Also, some studies show that the excessive amount of thyroid hormone which is present in hyperthyroidism decreases the absorption of magnesium, thus making it more likely that people with hyperthyroid conditions are deficient in magnesium.  Sticking with the topic of hyperthyroid conditions, some people with hyperthyroidism and Graves’ Disease notice a significant difference in their heart palpitations when supplementing with magnesium.

Deficiency Symptoms and Food Sources of Magnesium

Some of the symptoms of a magnesium deficiency include muscle cramps, nausea, vomiting, muscle weakness, anxiety, fatigue, and tremors.  It can be challenging to detect a magnesium deficiency.  While many doctors rely on serum tests, the serum blood tests are frequently normal even when someone has an intracellular deficiency of magnesium. As a result, unless if there is a severe magnesium deficiency then blood tests can’t be relied upon.  I commonly recommend a hair mineral analysis test to my patients to look at the mineral levels, but this admittedly can be a little bit confusing when trying to evaluate the magnesium levels.  One method of determining if someone is deficient in magnesium is to give them magnesium supplements, and then see if they develop symptoms such as loose stool, which are common when someone has too much magnesium in their system.  Of course this may be challenging for someone who has a hyperthyroid condition who already has loose stool as part of their condition.

Some of the foods that are rich in magnesium include meats, nuts and seeds, legumes, dairy products, and some whole grains such as oats and rice.  Green leafy vegetables are also a good source of magnesium.  Even if someone is eating a sufficient amount of foods rich in magnesium, if they have digestive problems then this can affect the absorption of magnesium, as well as other minerals.  So obviously such digestive issues need to be corrected in order to help improve the absorption of the vitamins and minerals.

Supplementing With Magnesium

The Recommended Daily Intake (RDI) of magnesium is 400mg.  Of course just as is the case with every other vitamin and mineral, this is on the low side, and probably should be between 600mg and 800mg Some magnesium can be obtained from the food sources listed above.  However, if someone has a magnesium deficiency, then they probably will need to take supplements to correct this deficiency.  So in addition to consuming magnesium-rich foods, if someone has a deficiency they might need to take 200 to 400mg of magnesium daily, and sometimes they will need more than this.  It depends on how many magnesium-rich foods they normally eat, and how big of a deficiency they have.  Magnesium is important for iodine absorption, and so if someone is taking high dosages of iodine then they will need to take higher dosages of magnesium.

Magnesium also needs to be balanced with calcium.  Some sources claim that the ratio of calcium to magnesium should be 1:1, others claim this ratio should be 2:1, while a few other sources claim it should be 5 to 1.  As far as I know there is no research which proves that a certain ratio is ideal, and of course if someone is taking calcium and magnesium supplements then they also need to consider the food sources they’re consuming.  For example, if someone is taking a supplement with a 2:1 ratio of calcium, and if they eat a lot of calcium-rich foods, but don’t consume too many foods rich in magnesium, then this will affect the calcium-magnesium ratio.  The good news is that many of the foods that are rich in calcium also contain magnesium.

As for what type of magnesium to supplement with, I personally recommend magnesium lactate, but other forms of magnesium can be beneficial as well.  Magnesium malate, magnesium oxide, and magnesium citrate are all good forms.

So hopefully you have a better understanding of some of the roles magnesium plays, as well as how it relates to thyroid health.  Make sure you eat some of the magnesium-rich foods I discussed in this article, and if necessary, take some magnesium supplements.  Since it’s difficult to test for a magnesium deficiency, you might need to supplement with magnesium and then decrease the dosage once you experience symptoms such as loose stools and/or headaches.

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Welcome.
If the Astaxanthin (I take this but still can barely pronounce it right!! ha ha)
if it is from a pure source (like mercola's for example, there are others)
then this is a wonderful anti oxidant, and has many times the powers of
Vitamin E.
The essential oil of Patchouli is also effective for protecting against uv radiation.
*again, I am only speaking of "therapeutic grade essential oils, one example is
www.youngliving.com
 
Also, Patchouli, as well as Cedarwood, Ginger,Myrrh, and Sandalwood, are high in what are called:
Sesquiterpenes-these are chemical elements in the essential oils that are known to:
increase oxygenation around the Pineal and Pituitary glands, AND further research has
shown that Sesquiterpenes have the ABILITY to enter the blood brain barrier.
Which means carry oxygen to the blood brain barrier and brain tissues.
 
Sesquiterpenes are also: highly anti inflammatory, anti-bacterial, are soothing to irritated skin and  tissue,
and also work as liver and gland stimulants.
 
Cedarwood is under 15.00 dollars I think,  and Patchouli is around 30, or so....they are not expensive compared to
Sandalwood and Myrrh. Ginger is also inexpensive.
The  Healing qualities in these essential oils of therapeutic grade will NOT be found in dried herbs, or cheaper
essential oils.
 
The question is: what IS it, about those prescription drugs (Cipro, ect) that render
the body so vulnerable to severe sun burns? The only thing I can say for certain is:
to cause the amt of severe side effects this drug has to be extremely toxic.
 
 
I will add: night blindness is another common side effect of "low thyroid".
If we could "see" the thyroid status's of those who wear eye glasses,
we'd see a common thread/denominator of "low thyroid" very prominantly
among those who wear glasses.
 
Blessings,
Lizzie
 
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      Lizzie;



many thanks again for your informative clarifications, I have much to learn about many things!



There are many users comments on astaxanthin helps to internally protect skin from sun burn; do folks here find it useful?



blessings

alice



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>

> Sun sensitivity/photo sensitivity  in this case means:

> certain medications can cause severe sun burn when

> the person is exposed to the sun.

> This is like a very very BAD sunburn!

> the kind where you feel/look like a lobster...

> or a newbie who went to florida, who has fair skin,

> who went out on a boat and didn't use sunscreen

> or common sense!

> For those who are sensitive to the sun/light? Meaning bright lights tend

> to bother your eyes:

> Much of this is thyroid being low.

>  

> The more low the thyroid is, the more the light actually hurts the eyes...

> and this is why, even in my state of MIchigan, which is not like Florida

> regarding the sun...you see so many people wearing sunglasses even

> when its not that sunny out. This is corrected with thyroid support.

>  

> this is not the same as those who are bothered by Flourescent lighting.

> The flicker in those lights, along with the high emfs the ballasts put out,

> and the mercury fumes those lights emit...are a common feature with

> many Essers.

> Once you are subject to what Elysia is talkign about, yes, there is a high chance

> the body will become very sensitive, because the skin having been burned this

> way, takes awhile to fully heal.

> Lavender essential oil, diluted (only therapuetic grade!) sprayed on sun burned

> skin, is something I have found that works very well. It will take the "burn" out,

> and help the skin heal faster.

> Milk used to do the the trick, but regular milk is not potent anymore...raw organic

> milk is potent and helpful for severe sunburns.

>  

> I wouldn't go as far to say this is a "permanent" condition; however. long sleeved

> shirts/ collars covering the neck area, hats, ect are essential to keeping this skin

> protected during the healing process. And avoidance to the sun will also quicken

> the healing.

> What you want to avoid is "getting a burn on top of a burn!"

> Healing rates will vary according to individual situations.

>  

> Blessings,

> Lizzie

>  

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Kudos to the curious cat within you!
I did not know this part.
 
I will add: it is virtually impossible these days to get enough Magnesium from food sources.
(this goes for any nutrients as our soils are heavily depleted)
those who are able to get fresh foods grown in permaculture farms, ect..will be getting
a higher amt of nutrients, as these areas "know" to feed the soil!
 
And in the pill form, the liver has to digest all solids.....the liver works 24/7, never gets a day off,
and it over worked, and way under paid.
 
So expecting this over worked organ to absorb properly, when it is often too stressed may explain
alot about the current state of health.
 
this is also why using the Magnesium Oil transdermally, via the skin, is such a great way to get Magnesium
into the body, at the cellular level, where it counts!
 
And it is rare to get the liquidy bowel movements from using Magnesium via the skin.
Magneium is also very helpful for depression and vitally needed for heart health, as is a healthy thyroid gland.
 
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 On another tip, magnesium sulphate injections are very helpful, I've found.  1000 mg of mag sulph intramuscularly is the only thing I've found which can completely abolish a migraine (including non-pain symptoms) and is cheap (about $1 for 1000 mg).  Compare that to the 'triptan' drugs which can cost $15 per pill or $50 for a migraine...  and the drugs don't work as well.

I give myself the injection, so it is cheap.  But if you require a doctor or nurse, then obviously the cost will probably soar; plus not so convenient.


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 already has loose stool as part of their condition.
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Check out magnesium orotate, also said to help with migraines.
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According to the late Robert Atkins, orotates are the best mineral transporters.  Just about any magnesium seems helpful but I've been using magnesium glycinate from ProHealth--which works well & is affordable.

I have been getting good results from Lithium orotate, 10 mg/day.  It seems to help the EHS symptoms; don't know the mechanism of action.  Anyone else try lithium orotate or aspartate?  Not easy to find, though.


 

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I've been hearing about lithium orotate for Lyme, & have been considering it for that, but I myself am not sure where to get it. 


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According to the late Robert Atkins, orotates are the best mineral transporters.  Just about any magnesium seems helpful but I've been using magnesium glycinate from ProHealth--which works well & is affordable.

I have been getting good results from Lithium orotate, 10 mg/day.  It seems to help the EHS symptoms; don't know the mechanism of action.  Anyone else try lithium orotate or aspartate?  Not easy to find, though.

 

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 Lithium orotate is available from http://www.needs.com; I think they're in Syracuse, NY.


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Hi,

I am using lithium aspartate, 5mg daily. I order it from SwansonVitamins.com. They have both good products and great prices. I took it to generally feel better. I think it cured my hyper-thyroid though because I later read that it can do that and I gained weight while eating less after I started to take it. Hated to put on those extra pounds but I know having a hyper-thyroid is not a healthy way to control my weight.  

I also read that lithium aspertate has been used very successfully in controlling Alzheimer's' Disease.

Hope this info helps.

Cheryl


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 Lithium orotate is available from http://www.needs.com; I think they're in Syracuse, NY.



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>I've been hearing about lithium orotate for Lyme, & have been considering it for that, but I myself am not sure where to get it. 

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Check out John Gray's youtube video on lithium orotate.
He sells it or you can get it on amazon - it's really not hard to find -most anything can be found with an online search.
I ordered this one - Nci (dr Hans Nieper) Lithium Orotate.
From my research, am thinking this may help with brain effects from brain chemistry suppression secondary to EMF's. Is known to help with depression and bipolar diagnoses.. 
With the lithium orotate - seems to be clear cut with most people -  it is very helpful or not at all. And not expensive at all, worth a try.
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