HOUSE PLANS

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> Dear Giorgio,
> I suggest you write "Curry lines" and "Low emission glass" into your
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> To: [hidden email]: [hidden email]: Mon, 7 Jan
> 2008 21:37:56 +0000Subject: [eSens] Re: HOUSE PLANS
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> --- In [hidden email], Torbjörn Lindblom <febpost@...> wrote:>> >
> Dear Irene,> > Lucky you if you can build your own house. However, there
> areseveral things to consider. Here are some…> > Location> Try to find a
> place free from mobile phone masts, TV and radiomasts, radar equipment and
> neighbours within 300 meters (DECT-telephone).> Don't build on top of a
> hill, instead build at the bottom of thehill (on the side where you get
> radio shadow) or in a valley. Tomeasure this, engage someone having a
> frequency analyser. If you finda place with the radiation around 1 nW/m2 it
> is a good place. (Stillyou can use a mobile phone…) (Remember: the maximum
> value stated byICNIRP is 10 W/m2 for 3G) > There should also be no power
> line within say 300 meters.> > Construction site> When you have found the
> right place you have to orientate the houseaccording to the Curry lines. The
> lines must be in the outer walls soa Curry cross lies in the corner of the
> house. Since the Curry linesare about 4 metres apart the house (and the
> rooms) should have amodulus of 4 meters. The house thus can be 4 by 8
> meters, 8 by 8meters, 8 by 12 meters and so on.> The Curry lines you detect
> with a dowsing rod or pointers.> > Also there shall not be a water line
> under the house crossing theplace where you intend to put your bed.> The
> water lines you detect with a dowsing rod or pointers.> Curry lines: are
> something related to geo-magnetic fields ? where canI find more info ?>
> Materials for the house> Build the house from stone or bricks. Only use
> material, which don'tgive off chemicals (remember: about 50% of EHS people
> are also MCS todifferent degrees).> > Use windows with low emission glass
> (energy glass) as this willreduce the microwave radiation (attenuation about
> 20 dB)> Energy glass: what are ? can you provide some references ?Thanks a
> lotGiorgio> Electricity> Use shielded cables. Check the quality of the
> electricity to avoiddirty electricity. Using a Stetzer meter you can detect
> this. Usefilters if the values are above 50 Stetzer units. Don't use CFLs
> andfluorescent tubes. Don't use dimmers.> Concentrate the electrical lines
> in the house to places where younormally don't stay. This will take care of
> magnetic fields.> Use net decoupler so your bedroom is completely free from
> electricfields during sleep.> > > These are a few suggestions for a good
> start unless you areextremely sensitive. We have practiced much of this in
> our house andmost EHS people visiting us feel quite well and also sleep
> well.> > Kind regards and good luck> Torbjorn> > > > To: eSens@...:
> iedbunnie@...: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:56:42 +0000Subject:[eSens] HOUSE PLANS>>
> > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO
> MAGNETICHYPERSENSITIVITY.IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START
> ORWHAT KIND OF A CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED INTHE
> FOUNDATION ETC?IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TORENNOVATE IS
> THEIR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELPME WITH MY
> CONDITION?IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELPME? THANKS IN
> ADVANCE iRENE > > > > > > >
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> --- In [hidden email], <scollier@> wrote:
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> > I could feel a huge difference when I disconnected the neutral
> wire. I had had the power off to that room for quite a long time.
> The ground wire is also disconnected from that room. The

> a blocking agent. You are most likely correct.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill Bruno
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] HOUSE PLANS
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> > This is fascinating.
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> > Disconnecting the wiring from the mains makes perfect sense.

> someone
> > could calculate it, but I suspect 10 layers is not even close.
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> > Bill
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> > On Jan 4, 2008 6:41 PM, <scollier@> wrote:
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> > > Yes, I can tell you more. No the windows are completely
> blocked. I do
> > > have survelliance cameras that let me see outside if I want

> me and copper
> > > does not. I have put a lot of thought into this house as you
> can tell.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bill Bruno
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] HOUSE PLANS
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> > > That's pretty interesting. Do the windows let light in?
> > >
> > > Do you have a meter or detector you can measure your field
> level with?
> > >
> > > I suspect the metal siding is blocking nearly all the
> microwaves, and
> > > the velostat is primarily damping lower frequency resonances

> the home.
> > >
> > > About how many layers of Velostat are you talking about? Can
> you say
> > > more about how you felt before and after the Velostat?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Jan 3, 2008 9:13 PM, <scollier@ <scollier%40vaughns.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a
> mobile home
> > > > with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a
> very bad
> > > choice
> > > > for a home because the windows are like portals that allow
> the high
> > > > frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside
> the home and
> > > make
> > > > it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick.
> However, if you
> > > want
> > > > to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very
> good for
> > > that
> > > > purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can

> have akso
> > > many
> > > > layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is
> separately grounded
> > > and
> > > > forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a
> faraday cage.
> > > This
> > > > has worked very well for me.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: iedbunnie
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com><eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:56 PM
> > > > Subject: [eSens] HOUSE PLANS
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> > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC
> > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY.
> > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT
> KIND OF A
> > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE
> FOUNDATION
> > > > ETC?
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> > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS
> THEIR
> > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH

> ADVANCE
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> Thanks for the reply.
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> I only wondered about your "common lead" because of a situation I
> found at a friends house.
> She was feeling a random shock when touching the shower handle.
> 2 electricians couldn't find anything wrong.
> She then called me to look at it.
> I found some stray potential in the water piping.
> After a few hours of further testing I had a suspicion there could be
> a bad common on the house so I clipped my amp gun around the house
> ground and found current to ground but no current in the common to
> utility.
> I called the electric co. emergency line and had a tech out in about
> 30 min.
> He replaced the house meter with a diagnostic box and found the house
> was okay but it sensed a bad common between the house and the utility
> pole.
> A tree limb had fatigued and broken the common line to the house
> forcing all of the current being used in the house to go to ground
> through the plumbing!
> The tech bonded the failed common and the problem went away.
> The emergency tech said he had even seen a open common effect TVs &
> computers in neighboring houses.
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> Regards,
> Jim
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> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, <scollier@...>
> wrote:
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> > Sorry for being unclear. Iwas speaking only of the line that goes
> to one specific room in my house. I disconnected those wires at the
> box. They are just dead outlets.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim O.
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:59 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: HOUSE PLANS
> >
> >
> > I don't quite understand.
> > Did you disconnect the neutral (common) lead between the
> electrical
> > box and the power pole?
> >
> > Thanx
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> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, <scollier@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I could feel a huge difference when I disconnected the neutral
> > wire. I had had the power off to that room for quite a long time.
> > The ground wire is also disconnected from that room. The
> grounding
> > of the outer aluminum siding is completely different than the
> > grounding of the electrical system of the house. I used a ground
> rod
> > and ran the ground wire along the bottom edge of the house
> connecting
> > it to each individual sheet of siding. I'm trying this is areas
> of
> > the house where it still doesn't feel right. I use different
> ground
> > rods to ground the velostat on the inside of the house. I don't
> have
> > a real understanding of what I'm doing the way I'm sure many here
> in
> > the group do. It is all hit and miss guess work trying out
> different
> > ideas. When I find something that works I continue to do it and
> when
> > it doesn't work I stop doing it and if possible try to understand
> > why. I have found that ground rods have a better feel than
> grounding
> > things to the ground in the electrical outlet. It seems that
> ground
> > current flows up the ground rod wiring and I think the same is
> true
> > that it flows out of the ground in the electrical box. I have
> slept
> > on grounded conductive fabric grounded to both the electrical box
> and
> > to ground rods and find the ground rods are very comforting and
> the
> > electrical box ground makes me feel like I'm being electricuted.
> So
> > I use ground rods exclusively. I have two computers. One is
> > grounded by placing it on top of conductive fabric that is
> grounded
> > to a ground rod and the other is inside a metal box that is
> > grounded. Both are up off the floor so as not to create ground
> > currents. They are placed far away from my desk using extension
> > cords. The monitor is a flat screen that appears to have no
> > transformer in the monitor itself but only on the end of the
> > electrical cord which is place far away from the computer in a
> place
> > where all my other electrical equipment is at. Again this is off
> the
> > floor in a box that is grounded. The monitor has two screens. One
> > is a grounded screen from Less EMF and the other is just a glare
> > screen. The glare screen is between the grounded screen and the
> > monitor. I just go by feelings. I can't explain why it works
> better
> > but I feel better with the ungrounded glare screen in there. I
> just
> > go by feelings and can't explain that. Computers were a real
> killer
> > before but with this set up it doesn't bother me at all. I use
> > incandescent light bulbs. I'm no expert on light bulbs. They
> don't
> > seem to bother me. Sounds like you know more about the velostat
> than
> > I do. But what you are saying does make sense. Before I blocked
> the
> > windows from the outside they were only covered on the inside
> with
> > many layers of velostat. I thought this was blocking the
> > microwaves. But after I blocked the windows from the outside as
> well
> > with metal sheeting I saw a huge difference. The velostat has
> > creates a good feel to the room but apparently it was ineffective
> as
> > a blocking agent. You are most likely correct.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bill Bruno
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] HOUSE PLANS
> > >
> > >
> > > This is fascinating.
> > >
> > > Disconnecting the wiring from the mains makes perfect sense.
> There
> > > is always dirty power on the neutral (assuming a wye power
> grid;
> > on delta
> > > grids
> > > maybe not). I assume your AC ground wires are also disconnected
> > from the
> > > power company neutral?
> > >
> > > Curious what kind of lighting you use, and what kind of
> computer.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I follow the details of your grounding. Maybe by
> not
> > going
> > > around the corner you're minimizing the extent to which
> external
> > ground
> > > currents come in and go out through your ground system? One
> > solution
> > > to that is to ground everything at one point (one rod, or one
> rod
> > with
> > > others
> > > connected to it).
> > >
> > > The metal cloth, if it's what I'm thinking of (hardware cloth,
> > like you
> > > could
> > > make a fence out of) should be quite effective at blocking RF
> and
> > microwaves
> > > up to at least about 5 GHz. I'd expect the microwaves to go
> > through the
> > > velostat
> > > but it will help block low frequency electric fields and as I
> > said may
> > > prevent
> > > resonances. Of course enough layers could block microwaves,
> maybe
> > someone
> > > could calculate it, but I suspect 10 layers is not even close.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Jan 4, 2008 6:41 PM, <scollier@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, I can tell you more. No the windows are completely
> > blocked. I do
> > > > have survelliance cameras that let me see outside if I want
> to
> > look outside.
> > > > I do not have meters other than my trifield meter. I am very
> > sensitive and I
> > > > do things based upon how what I do makes me feel. This is
> what
> > I have done
> > > > now for a very long time. For example, I learned that just
> > grounding the
> > > > corners of the house was not enough. I work on areas of the
> > house where I
> > > > don't feel that good in. In one such place I would ground one
> > sheet of metal
> > > > siding and continue to ground each sheet running the wire
> from
> > one sheet to
> > > > the next. Yet when I rounded the corner and grounded the next
> > sheet and then
> > > > came back inside to see how I felt I noticed that now I felt
> > worse instead
> > > > of better. So I stopped with the previous sheet and just left
> > it the way
> > > > that it was because it was having such a good effect on me.
> It
> > is all
> > > > totally being done by feelings and with no meters or
> > instruments. I don't
> > > > know what the aluminum siding is blocking. But I know that
> the
> > velostat is
> > > > supposed to block microwaves. Again, I like velostat because
> of
> > the way that
> > > > it makes me feel. I don't know what it does or how it does
> what
> > it does but
> > > > when you touch it it really makes you feel good and when I
> put
> > layers of it
> > > > on the wall it has a good effect. Some say that it can take
> as
> > much as 11 or
> > > > 12 layers to be very effective. I put the velostat in layers
> > mixed in with
> > > > layers of metalic cloth that I buy from walmart and with
> sheets
> > of wire that
> > > > have 1/4 by 1/4 openings. It is all grounded to grounding
> rods.
> > I don't know
> > > > why it is but it seems to work best if you run the wire from
> > the grounding
> > > > rod to a water pipe and then to the wall. I usually connect
> it
> > to the
> > > > metallic cloth. I have one room in the house that makes me
> feel
> > really
> > > > really good. In that room the house copper wires have been
> > disconnected at
> > > > the mains, including the neutral wire. From the ground rods I
> > use zinc
> > > > connectors and use silver nickel speaker wire instead of
> copper
> > wire and
> > > > attach the wire to the wall using zinc plated screws and
> > washers. I
> > > > purposely use zinc instead of copper because copper is
> feminine
> > and zinc is
> > > > masculine. I am so senstitive that I can tell a difference.
> > This room has a
> > > > great effect on me. It is hard to explain just how it is. But
> > copper is much
> > > > like mercury. I have read that copper toxicity symptoms are
> > exactly the same
> > > > as mercury toxicity symptoms. Zinc has a really good effect
> on
> > me and copper
> > > > does not. I have put a lot of thought into this house as you
> > can tell.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Bill Bruno
> > > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com><eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] HOUSE PLANS
> > > >
> > > > That's pretty interesting. Do the windows let light in?
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a meter or detector you can measure your field
> > level with?
> > > >
> > > > I suspect the metal siding is blocking nearly all the
> > microwaves, and
> > > > the velostat is primarily damping lower frequency resonances
> of
> > the home.
> > > >
> > > > About how many layers of Velostat are you talking about? Can
> > you say
> > > > more about how you felt before and after the Velostat?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 3, 2008 9:13 PM, <scollier@ <scollier%40vaughns.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is what worked for me. My house is all metal. It is a
> > mobile home
> > > > > with aluminum siding and a double roof. At first this is a
> > very bad
> > > > choice
> > > > > for a home because the windows are like portals that allow
> > the high
> > > > > frequencies to come into the home and bounce around inside
> > the home and
> > > > make
> > > > > it like a microwave oven inside. It will make you sick.
> > However, if you
> > > > want
> > > > > to live inside a faraday cage then such a house can be very
> > good for
> > > > that
> > > > > purpose. It requires closing up all the windows. This can
> be
> > done
> > > > without
> > > > > people knowing what you have done. If you look at my
> windows
> > you see
> > > > blinds.
> > > > > But right behind the blinds are metal sheets. For the doors
> I
> > have metal
> > > > > storm doors with steel mesh pet screens on top of wire
> > screen. The hole
> > > > are
> > > > > different sizes to block different wavelengths. To make a
> > proper faraday
> > > > > cage requires that you have a box within a box. Each box
> has
> > to be
> > > > > separately grounded. The aluminum siding is the outer box.
> I
> > have akso
> > > > many
> > > > > layers of velostat on the inside of my home which is
> > separately grounded
> > > > and
> > > > > forms the inside box. This is the proper way to build a
> > faraday cage.
> > > > This
> > > > > has worked very well for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: iedbunnie
> > > > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com><eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] HOUSE PLANS
> > > > >
> > > > > WE ARE THINKING OF MOVING BECAUSE OF MY ELECTRO MAGNETIC
> > > > > HYPERSENSITIVITY.
> > > > > IF WE BUILD A HOUSE DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW WE START OR WHAT
> > KIND OF A
> > > > > CONTRACTOR WE LOOK FOR THAT WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN THE
> > FOUNDATION
> > > > > ETC?
> > > > >
> > > > > IF WE MOVE INTO A HOUSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENNOVATE IS
> > THEIR
> > > > > ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE WALLS ETC TO HELP ME WITH
> MY
> > > > > CONDITION?
> > > > >
> > > > > IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET THAT CAN HELP ME? THANKS
> IN
> > ADVANCE
> > > > > iRENE
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