Get rid of mattresses with metal springs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc

Hello everyone
 
The 4 G network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am celebrating with family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city tomorrow - and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is near a very large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a pretty good idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going tobe having a 4G experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does anyone have any experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had any tips on how they coped with it that would be great
 
Many thanks
Steph
 

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 From: fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52
Subject: [eSens] Get rid of mattresses with metal springs
 
 
   
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc

   
         

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Steph,

MY only advice is steer clear of cell towers more than before. You might
want to try a protective hat to wear out, to reflect high emf's. Or some
clothing.

I can't believe the level around here. We drove by a tower w several
antennas on it, & the wost reading I got is 3.223 microwatts per centameter
squared.

Kathy

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Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.
regards

Ada/betty




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 From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26
Subject: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
 

 
Hello everyone
 
The 4 G network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am celebrating with family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city tomorrow - and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is near a very large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a pretty good idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going tobe having a 4G experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does anyone have any experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had any tips on how they coped with it that would be great
 
Many thanks
Steph


________________________________
From: fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52
Subject: [eSens] Get rid of mattresses with metal springs


 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc

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On December 27, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.

I never noticed any difference from 4G either, but some people here
really did notice the difference.

Marc

Yes, I am feeling worse since 4G came to Seattle.  More skin burning.

Maybe someone knowlegable in Telecommunications can help me here.  This is as far as I got tonight in trying to break down the basics of 4G:

4 G refers to 4th Generation.

When going from one generation to another, there is an up grade of technology.

1G or 1st Generation refers to the analog signal used by cellular towers in the 1980s.

2G or 2nd Generation technology was in the 1990s and upgraded the analog signal to digital and let people send text messages across the network

3G  or 3rd Generation technology, in the early 2000s, made use of electromagnetic wavelengths to broadcast a wireless broadband signal, which let users access the Internet and download applications using handheld mobile devices

4G or 4th Generation technology further upgrades previous wireless networks with FASTER INFORMATON TRANSFER TIMES, heightened security, and greater information exchange abilities. 4G services have become necessary to satisfy the high demand by customers to USE THEIR PHONES  to download HIGH LEVELS OF DATA, for example, by watching videos or accessing emails. Mobile data has increased 250 per cent over the past two years. 

The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G label should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 GIGABIT PER SECOND.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is significantly slower than 4G technology. 

How much faster is data transmission with 4G than 3G?

4G = 1 Gigabit (or 1024 Megabits) per second = 1,048,576 kilobits per second divided by 3G (200 kilobits per second) = 5,242.88

So 4G data transmission is about 5,000 times faster than 3G!!

To compare this to computer language, Your Hard drive stores Gigabytes of information, whereas, Computer Processor Speed is measured in GHz and Mhz.

But data transmission SPEED is one thing and Microwave intensity is another, so we move from Gigabits to Gigahertz. because there is no direct conversion between frequency and bit rate. 

Microwaves are a subset of Radio Waves.  With regards to wavelengths, the higher the Frequency, the shorter the wavelength.  Frequency is how many vibrations or cycles per second.

Microwaves  range from 300 MHz to 300 GHz and hence their wavelength ranges from 1 millimeter to 1 meter.

WAVELENGTHS:

Average AM Radio Wavelength = 300 meters (or about 1,000 feet in length).
Average television and FM radio wavelength = about 3 meters (or about 10 feet in length).
Average Microwave Wavelength = less than 30 cm. which is considerably shorter than radio waves.

Microwaves travel in straight lines, much like light waves do. Dish antennas are often used to collect and focus microwave signals.

The 2G wavelength has a frequency of 800 - 1900 Mhz or 1.9 Gigahertz

The 3G wavelength has a frequency of 2100 Mhz  (or 2100 cycles per second) or 2.1 Gigahertz. 

The 4G wavelength has a frequency of 2300 Mhz  or 2.3 Gigahertz.

If you know the Frequency of a wave, which we do above, the industry accepted formulas is

Wavelength = 300 / Frequency in Mhz. with the result given in meters.

3G wavelenth = 2100 Mhz / 300 = 0.14285714285714285 meters or 5.6 inches.

So when you make a call on your cell phone using 3G technology, the microwaves penetrating your skin have a wavelenth of 5.6  inches, and are coming at you 2100 times a second. The frequency of 2100 times a second wrecks havoc on your cells.  You are 90% water and these frequencies penetrate your skin where they vibrate and heat your cells, just like a microwave oven does.  That is what causes the burning, prickling feelings on your skin.

The 4G wavelength is 2300 Megahertz. That translates to 0.13043478260869565 meters long or 5.1  inches long. 

WITH 4G we have a slightly shorter 5.1 inch long wave, cycling with a frequency of 2300 times a second.  In 3G the wave is 5.6 inches long cycling at 2100 times a second.  So the 4G wavlength cycles 200 times MORE per second than 3G.   A wave of radiationn penetrating your skin with more cycles per second spells increased  heating of cells, but you  may not notice the SLIGHT increase from 3G to 4G in that regard.  What you may notice is the extremely amped up ACTIVITY of the microwave highway, which metaphorically has been expanded from one lane to 6 lanes. 

This greatly amped up activity of the system referred to as "higher network capacity" with "More simultaneous users per cell", INCREASED DATA SPEEDS  of 100 mbps between  two points, global roaming across multiple networks, means EXTREMELY HIGH amounts of data will be coming though widely expanded frequency channels. 

Well, all of this spells increased amounts of databits flying back and forth through our air space, 5,000 times faster than before, between cell phone and tower, which means more Microwave Activity consisting of microwaves with a slightly stronger intensity than 3G. 

This is as far as I got.  Can someone give an idea of how much more Microwave Activity we will be getting with 4G due to the increased speed and throughput of informaton?  Thanks.

C. Johnson
Superdrove@yahoo,com
Wireless Refugee


--- On Fri, 12/28/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 2:18 AM








 



 


   
     
     
      On December 27, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.


I never noticed any difference from 4G either, but some people here

really did notice the difference.


Marc





   
     

 

 
 
 



     




     

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Thanks Ada
 
Unfotunately my house is about 350- 400 metres from a huge pylon staked with antennae and I know that the 4g will be on it so will be pretty close to my house. Am just keeping everything crossed!
love
Steph
 
 

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 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, 28 December 2012, 1:08
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
 
 
   
 
Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.
regards

Ada/betty

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From: Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26
Subject: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT


 
Hello everyone
 
The 4 G network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am celebrating with family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city tomorrow - and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is near a very large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a pretty good idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going tobe having a 4G experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does anyone have any experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had any tips on how they coped with it that would be great
 
Many thanks
Steph

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From: fantasticsam131 <mailto:quaixemen%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52
Subject: [eSens] Get rid of mattresses with metal springs

 

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Marc and Kathy
Thanks for the reassurance - I'll post back if I am in difficulties
Steph
 

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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, 28 December 2012, 2:18
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
 
 
   
 
On December 27, ada iye <mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.

I never noticed any difference from 4G either, but some people here
really did notice the difference.

Marc
   
         

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Hello, all my sweethearts suffering w/ EHS. With regard to 4G (or in my case, Smart Meters), if I could afford to really commit to it, I'd take the following 3 pronged approach: hormonal/endocrine, immune & brain retraining/mind-body stuff. That means: 1) LOTS of adrenal & thyroid (1 of each ever 2 hrs. or so, probably for life), 2) Dr. Belpomme's & Hippocrates Institute's advice (anti-histamines, B vitamins, melatonin, antioxidants, nerve tonics, and as little processed food as possible; go super-green), and 3) EFT, EMDR, Gupta Amygdala Retraining, Annie Hopper's DNRS, yoga, qi gong, and any other mind-body programs you come across. I have nothing to offer but my love & advice, but there you have it. 


BTW, Here's PERSONAL UPDATE; maybe something in it will resonate w/ you: I find it pretty interesting that I'm responding to the 4G tower (7 miles away) LESS THAN HALF as bad as I responded to the Smart Meters. They're both in the 900MHZ-1200MHz range, so my guess is that even a few hundred Hertz differences in frequency can make a difference, depending on the person (I also know this is true b/c I'm on 2.4GHz wifi right now and am still less sensitive to WiFi than I am to cell phones). I take Lizzie's advice of taking adrenal & thyroid (from Nutri-Meds) every 2 hrs., but it's $150/month and I can't afford it. I'm taking 3 adrenal pills & 3 thyroid pills a day. Also am doing Annie Hopper's DNRS, w/ the hope of healing my limbic system & thereby shutting off the overactive chronic inflammatory response. Went into my fiance's moldy home for 1/2 hour yesterday and boy does it make my EHS worse. I can feel it scarring my lungs & brain. I borrowed the DNRS
 program so I can't get the online & phone advice from their hotline & online group or whatever. BUT I've heard of several severe EHSers getting better, they just had to do it for 12-14 months instead of 6 months. Also, the latest newsletter describes a lady who went to 52 docs over the last 3 years, and got days of total paralysis at a time upon a single breath of mold. Her mold symptoms (strokes, paralysis) are very similar to mine, but she does NOT have EHS. I'm kind of a guinea pig here, I think. I also have no distraction-free place to practice. 

ALSO: Great advice from an herbalist out here: People w/ nerve stuff (MS & ALS-type symptoms) should only cook w/ COCONUT oil, and eat butter (as raw as possible), i.e. NO PROCESSED FOOD. In terms of nuts, ONLY eat unprocessed almonds (soak them in water w/ Vit. C powder); the oils in all other nuts & seeds are usually rancid. The miraculously cheap way to get Omega 3s without them being rancid is to BUY WHOLE FLAX SEEDS, grind them daily in a coffee grinder & add them to yogurt. WIPE OUT THE GRINDER meticulously. The oils go rancid within 2 days, which probably explains why I got SICKER nervous-system wise last month after chowing down on a big bottle of the expensive nordic fish oil & using it up in a week. Thought I was going crazy! On top of that, be sure to PEEL YOUR CARROTS & BEETS & don't eat any other veggies that grow underground; the metals in the soil affect EHS. 

RAW BEETS (peeled) are good b/c they're a rich source of manganese, an excellent ion channel blocker (I think for calcium ions). I peel the beets, then shred them. It's messy & I'm just dying to get my own place one of these days so that I can eat all the raw garlic I want without being told things like I smell like a dragon's asshole, a dead bird carcass, a rotten egg etc. (If you're EHS, MCS or Lyme or whatever, you are NOT alone in having had some of the WORST STUFF in the world said & done to you). Also peel your ginger. If I can ever afford to see the doctor again, I am planning to find out my blood type & do Hulda Clarke's blood type-based diet. I tried Dr. Rau's alkaline broth & all that (from "Swiss Secret for Optimal Health); passed out after 24 hrs., both times. I don't think it's even safe for an EHSer to go that hungry. Nevertheless, I do a modified version of his alkaline broth & it feels GREAT digestion-wise; I think it actually helps lower
 the scarring in my lungs from the mold. If I could stomach it I'd probably advise turmeric root powder too. "My" recipe is: Kale (boil it first & dump out the water to remove the bacteria that's common on crucifers) , + peeled carrots + peeled ginger + green beans (fresh is preferable) + 1 tbsp. coconut oil; low-boil for about 30 min. it makes a great veggie stew. I've heard that you can remove the mold from your sea salt by putting it in the oven at 400 degrees for a few minutes; I don't have a place to try this yet so I've just been using the sea salt as is. Will update if any progress is made w/ DNRS and/or diet. 

BTW, does anyone know of a cheap method (equipment, lighting) for growing one's own micro-greens? (Wheat grass, sunflower sprouts). The sunflower sprouts are like $4 for a tiny bag at the co-op out here. Wish I could grow them myself; my body loves them. 

Love & blessings,
Elysia


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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
 

 
On December 27, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.

I never noticed any difference from 4G either, but some people here
really did notice the difference.

Marc

 

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As I said in my previous post, 4G:

"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G label should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is significantly slower than 4G technology. "

Maybe the reason you are not noticing a difference is because your area does not have  true 4G.  Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when their speeds are not anywhere near 1 Gigabit per second.   

Also, I am still trying to figure out exactly how much if any significance, the Microwave activity is increased or intensified due to true 4G being 5,000 faster than 3G, with more databit actilvity.  Due to all the different wireless companies and plans, there are a lot of variables in various locations because not all networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan areas are making use of true 4G in certain pockets.

Hard to tell.  It is like the Wireless Wild West out there.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee



--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM








 



 


   
     
     
      Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.

regards



Ada/betty



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 From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>

To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>

Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26

Subject: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

 



 

Hello everyone

 

The 4 G network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am celebrating with family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city tomorrow - and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is near a very large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a pretty good idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going tobe having a 4G experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does anyone have any experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had any tips on how they coped with it that would be great

 

Many thanks

Steph



________________________________

From: fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52

Subject: [eSens] Get rid of mattresses with metal springs



 



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Well, while we're dreaming of what we'd do if... lol :)

I'd put all the cellphones, wireless routers, towers, antennas, etc.
and all the people who really think they have to get rich on them, or use them, etc. on a ship to Mars or somewhere.

They could come back when they've either learned their lesson, &/or found a way to make it safe for nature. :)

Things would move slower here, but hey, we wouldn't be getting fried.
And since my income will allow all those helpful things about as much as this option, lol, I thought it's right up there.

-For lighting for sprouts, you really shouldn't need lights, just a window, unless you're planning mass amounts of it. They don't need a lot of light to develop over that short a period of time.

Well, a Happy New Year to everyone. :)

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, all my sweethearts suffering w/ EHS. With regard to 4G (or in my case, Smart Meters), if I could afford to really commit to it, I'd take the following 3 pronged approach: hormonal/endocrine, immune & brain retraining/mind-body stuff. That means: 1) LOTS of adrenal & thyroid (1 of each ever 2 hrs. or so, probably for life), 2) Dr. Belpomme's & Hippocrates Institute's advice (anti-histamines, B vitamins, melatonin, antioxidants, nerve tonics, and as little processed food as possible; go super-green), and 3) EFT, EMDR, Gupta Amygdala Retraining, Annie Hopper's DNRS, yoga, qi gong, and any other mind-body programs you come across. I have nothing to offer but my love & advice, but there you have it. 
>
>

thanks for your good thoughts and kind gifts of love, elysia.  
to that, i will add my auntie patricia for president campaign
points - or at least some of them - i'm still working on it...

when i am president, there will be organic food for everyone.
no more toxic foods, no more heavy metals in the air or
land - no more chemtrails, no more fluoride in the water,
no more covert war waged on citizens.
no more war anywhere, waged on anyone.  
no more food grown with artificial fertilizers or pesticides -
and no more genetically engineered foods.  
there will be organic food forests everywhere.  
the military-industrial team will cease to make weapons
and will instead help every area of the world become well
irrigated and fertile.  free, safe, warm, dry, simple-to-
maintain housing will be provided for everyone.  
free energy - there are SO many different possibilities.  
electrical grids will become outdated.
levitation transportation so that paving will become
unnecessary.  
no more cruel and unusual (or usual) birthing processes,
including circumcision of infants.  
no more school-as-prison for little children who long to
run and play and be free.  
everyone will know from birth how to stay in touch with
the easy, peaceful, loving feeling within themselves and
there will be no interest in drama and discord.
the privatized, profit-driven sector will be outdated by a
wealth based on the world's resources shared by all.  
people will be able to choose if/when they want to have
children so that all children will have a home that really
wants them and there will be no neglected or abused
children... only very well protected and loved, respected
and appreciated children.  
people will be well-educated about manipulation so that
they would not be fooled by their own or others' emotional
albatrosses... or is that albatrossi?    
everyone will be well-educated about health and healing
so that they can easily take care of their own needs and
assist others who want help - on every level:  mental,
emotional, physical.
everyone will have access to the foundational experience
of the life force within so that they will not be distracted  
by superstition or religion... they will all know god as the
source of life, not believe, not fear, not hope nor wish...
but know the light, love, life force, personally, intimately,
and stay in tune with it all throughout their lives.  
they will easily discern between Reality/Truth and wishful
thinking, manipulation or even well-intended misinformation.    
everyone will be engaged in making the world a safe,
healthy place for all, not just some.  
if a certain product does not support vibrant, radiant health,
it will be eliminated - or modified until it was safe... and
that would include, as we all know, wireless, dirty electricity.
no more power plants... everyone's own home would
generate all the clean, pure energy they need from their
choice of sources - sun, water, wind.. but not from fuels
that are from on, in or under the earth... we would no
longer despoil our planet.    

vote for auntie patricia for president!  
:)  love, patricia

If only Patricia ! Merry new year
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 31/12/2012 00:34:58 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]  
writes:

 
 
 
thanks for your good thoughts and kind gifts of love, elysia.
to that,  i will add my auntie patricia for president campaign
points - or at least  some of them - i'm still working on it...

when i am president, there  will be organic food for everyone.
no more toxic foods, no more heavy  metals in the air or
land - no more chemtrails, no more fluoride in the  water,
no more covert war waged on citizens.
no more war anywhere,  waged on anyone.
no more food grown with artificial fertilizers or  pesticides -
and no more genetically engineered foods.
there will be  organic food forests everywhere.
the military-industrial team will cease  to make weapons
and will instead help every area of the world become well  
irrigated and fertile. free, safe, warm, dry, simple-to-
maintain  housing will be provided for everyone.
free energy - there are SO many  different possibilities.
electrical grids will become  outdated.
levitation transportation so that paving will become  
unnecessary.
no more cruel and unusual (or usual) birthing processes,  
including circumcision of infants.
no more school-as-prison for little  children who long to
run and play and be free.
everyone will know from  birth how to stay in touch with
the easy, peaceful, loving feeling within  themselves and
there will be no interest in drama and discord.
the  privatized, profit-driven sector will be outdated by a
wealth based on the  world's resources shared by all.
people will be able to choose if/when  they want to have
children so that all children will have a home that  really
wants them and there will be no neglected or abused
children...  only very well protected and loved, respected
and appreciated children.  
people will be well-educated about manipulation so that
they would not  be fooled by their own or others' emotional
albatrosses... or is that  albatrossi?
everyone will be well-educated about health and healing
so  that they can easily take care of their own needs and
assist others who  want help - on every level: mental,
emotional, physical.
everyone will  have access to the foundational experience
of the life force within so that  they will not be distracted
by superstition or religion... they will all  know god as the
source of life, not believe, not fear, not hope nor  wish...
but know the light, love, life force, personally, intimately,  
and stay in tune with it all throughout their lives.
they will easily  discern between Reality/Truth and wishful
thinking, manipulation or even  well-intended misinformation.
everyone will be engaged in making the world  a safe,
healthy place for all, not just some.
if a certain product  does not support vibrant, radiant health,
it will be eliminated - or  modified until it was safe... and
that would include, as we all know,  wireless, dirty electricity.
no more power plants... everyone's own home  would
generate all the clean, pure energy they need from their
choice  of sources - sun, water, wind.. but not from fuels
that are from on, in or  under the earth... we would no
longer despoil our planet.

vote for  auntie patricia for president!
:) love, patricia






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:)  
we can always make plans...
otherwise, they won't happen.  
best wishes for the best year ever!  
:)  
love, patricia

On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:19 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> If only Patricia ! Merry new year
>
> puk
>

The 4 G is definitely up and running in my area - about 300m away from my home and I am feeling it - in bed in the morning when it seems to kick in it feels as if I am being "fried" - and that is with a wooden bed and a foam mattress with no springs or metal in it - and during the day I feel the vibrations all the time - then at a point at around 5.30-6ish they ease off as if it powers down for lower usage or something 

Steph


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 From: C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012, 2:43
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
 

 
As I said in my previous post, 4G:

"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G label should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is significantly slower than 4G technology. "

Maybe the reason you are not noticing a difference is because your area does not have  true 4G.  Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when their speeds are not anywhere near 1 Gigabit per second.   

Also, I am still trying to figure out exactly how much if any significance, the Microwave activity is increased or intensified due to true 4G being 5,000 faster than 3G, with more databit actilvity.  Due to all the different wireless companies and plans, there are a lot of variables in various locations because not all networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan areas are making use of true 4G in certain pockets.

Hard to tell.  It is like the Wireless Wild West out there.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM

 

Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.

regards

Ada/betty

________________________________

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>

To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>

Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26

Subject: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

Hello everyone

The 4 G network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am celebrating with family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city tomorrow - and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is near a very large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a pretty good idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going tobe having a 4G experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does anyone have any experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had any tips on how they coped with it that would be great

Many thanks

Steph

________________________________

From: fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52

Subject: [eSens] Get rid of mattresses with metal springs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc

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Oh God, I can imagine. I wonder it makes still sense to buy or to rent a house. You don't know what kind of antenna they will install there the next day. They do not ask us anymore :-) . Nevertheless, I found some areas where people start to protest that antennas for mobile phones are installed: In an area west of Edinburgh in Scotland or in the North of San Francisco - but they all continue to use WI-FI. What kind of sense makes this
then ... .

Stefanie


--- Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> schrieb am So, 6.1.2013:

Von: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Datum: Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 15:14 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      The 4 G is definitely up and running in my area - about 300m away from my home and I am feeling it - in bed in the morning when it seems to kick in it feels as if I am being "fried" - and that is with a wooden bed and a foam mattress with no springs or metal in it - and during the day I feel the vibrations all the time - then at a point at around 5.30-6ish they ease off as if it powers down for lower usage or something 



Steph



________________________________

 From: C.a.b. Johnson [hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012, 2:43

Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

 



 

As I said in my previous post, 4G:



"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G label should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is significantly slower than 4G technology. "



Maybe the reason you are not noticing a difference is because your area does not have  true 4G.  Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when their speeds are not anywhere near 1 Gigabit per second.   



Also, I am still trying to figure out exactly how much if any significance, the Microwave activity is increased or intensified due to true 4G being 5,000 faster than 3G, with more databit actilvity.  Due to all the different wireless companies and plans, there are a lot of variables in various locations because not all networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan areas are making use of true 4G in certain pockets.



Hard to tell.  It is like the Wireless Wild West out there.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye [hidden email]> wrote:



From: ada iye [hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

To: "[hidden email]" [hidden email]>

Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM



 



Hey Steph, to be honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then I am about half a mile from my nearest tower.



regards



Ada/betty



________________________________



From: Stephanie Smith [hidden email]>



To: "[hidden email]" [hidden email]>



Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26



Subject: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



Hello everyone



The 4 G network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am celebrating with family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city tomorrow - and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is near a very large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a pretty good idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going tobe having a 4G experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does anyone have any experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had any tips on how they coped with it that would be great



Many thanks



Steph



________________________________



From: fantasticsam131 [hidden email]>



To: [hidden email]



Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52



Subject: [eSens] Get rid of mattresses with metal springs



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc



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this whole debate exposes the I am alright jack mentality and the fact that
 the human race aint as smart as it would like to think, extinction is
somewhere  on that wavelength.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:57:49 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Oh God, I can imagine. I wonder it makes still sense to buy or to rent a  
house. You don't know what kind of antenna they will install there the next  
day. They do not ask us anymore :-) . Nevertheless, I found some areas where
 people start to protest that antennas for mobile phones are installed: In
an  area west of Edinburgh in Scotland or in the North of San Francisco -
but they  all continue to use WI-FI. What kind of sense makes this
then ... .  

Stefanie

--- Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
schrieb am So,  6.1.2013:

Von: Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Betreff: Re:  [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
An: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) "
_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Datum:  Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 15:14 Uhr



The 4 G is definitely  up and running in my area - about 300m away from my
home and I am feeling it -  in bed in the morning when it seems to kick in
it feels as if I am being  "fried" - and that is with a wooden bed and a foam
mattress with no springs or  metal in it - and during the day I feel the
vibrations all the time - then at  a point at around 5.30-6ish they ease off
as if it powers down for lower usage  or  something

Steph

________________________________

From:  C.a.b. Johnson _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

To:  _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  

Sent:  Saturday, 29 December 2012, 2:43

Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY  TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



As I said in my previous post,  4G:

"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G  label
should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per  
second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data  
transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is  
significantly slower than 4G technology. "

Maybe the reason you are not  noticing a difference is because your area
does not have  true 4G.   Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when
their speeds are not anywhere  near 1 Gigabit per second.    

Also, I am still trying  to figure out exactly how much if any
significance, the Microwave activity is  increased or intensified due to true 4G being
5,000 faster than 3G, with more  databit actilvity.  Due to all the different
wireless companies and  plans, there are a lot of variables in various
locations because not all  networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan
areas are making  use of true 4G in certain pockets.

Hard to tell.  It is like the  Wireless Wild West out there.

C. Johnson

_Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

Wireless  Refugee

--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye [hidden email].uk_
(mailto:[hidden email]) >  wrote:

From: ada iye [hidden email].uk_
(mailto:[hidden email]) >

Subject:  Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

To: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

Date:  Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM



Hey Steph, to be  honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then
I am about half a  mile from my nearest  tower.

regards

Ada/betty

________________________________

From:  Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

To: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >  

Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26

Subject: [eSens] 4 G  NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

Hello everyone

The 4 G  network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am
celebrating with  family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city
tomorrow -  and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is
near a very  large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a
pretty good  idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going
tobe having a 4G  experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does
anyone have any  experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had
any tips on how  they coped with it that would be great

Many  thanks

Steph

________________________________

From:  fantasticsam131 _quaixemen@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  

Sent:  Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52

Subject: [eSens] Get rid of  mattresses with metal springs

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc)

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absolutely - where I live there was never any question of people being "asked" or "consulted" about the erection of phone masts - they just appear out of nowhere and proliferate like crazy - now they have begun to "disguise" them - which says it all really - if there was nothing to worry about and it was all nice and safe and healthy they wouldn;t need to disguise them would they? What I'd love to know is what protection those in government have access to to protect them from the health effects of their 3 blackberries and 4 smart phones which they each seem to have - cynical huh?

 

________________________________
 From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 11:13
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
 
 
   
 
this whole debate exposes the I am alright jack mentality and the fact that
the human race aint as smart as it would like to think, extinction is
somewhere  on that wavelength.

puk


In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:57:49 GMT Standard Time,
mailto:stefaniet2%40yahoo.com writes:

Oh God, I can imagine. I wonder it makes still sense to buy or to rent a
house. You don't know what kind of antenna they will install there the next
day. They do not ask us anymore :-) . Nevertheless, I found some areas where
people start to protest that antennas for mobile phones are installed: In
an  area west of Edinburgh in Scotland or in the North of San Francisco -
but they  all continue to use WI-FI. What kind of sense makes this
then ... .

Stefanie

--- Stephanie Smith mailto:_reader41%40ymail.com_ (mailto:mailto:reader41%40ymail.com) >
schrieb am So,  6.1.2013:

Von: Stephanie Smith mailto:_reader41%40ymail.com_ (mailto:mailto:reader41%40ymail.com) >
Betreff: Re:  [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
An: "mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) "
mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) >
Datum:  Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 15:14 Uhr

The 4 G is definitely  up and running in my area - about 300m away from my
home and I am feeling it -  in bed in the morning when it seems to kick in
it feels as if I am being  "fried" - and that is with a wooden bed and a foam
mattress with no springs or  metal in it - and during the day I feel the
vibrations all the time - then at  a point at around 5.30-6ish they ease off
as if it powers down for lower usage  or  something

Steph

________________________________

From:  C.a.b. Johnson mailto:_superdrove%40yahoo.com_ (mailto:mailto:superdrove%40yahoo.com) >

To: mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com)

Sent:  Saturday, 29 December 2012, 2:43

Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY  TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

As I said in my previous post,  4G:

"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G  label
should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per
second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data
transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is
significantly slower than 4G technology. "

Maybe the reason you are not  noticing a difference is because your area
does not have  true 4G.   Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when
their speeds are not anywhere  near 1 Gigabit per second.

Also, I am still trying  to figure out exactly how much if any
significance, the Microwave activity is  increased or intensified due to true 4G being
5,000 faster than 3G, with more  databit actilvity.  Due to all the different
wireless companies and  plans, there are a lot of variables in various
locations because not all  networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan
areas are making  use of true 4G in certain pockets.

Hard to tell.  It is like the  Wireless Wild West out there.

C. Johnson

mailto:_Superdrove%40yahoo.com_ (mailto:mailto:Superdrove%40yahoo.com)

Wireless  Refugee

--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye mailto:_betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk_
(mailto:mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk) >  wrote:

From: ada iye mailto:_betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk_
(mailto:mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk) >

Subject:  Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

To: "mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com)
mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) >

Date:  Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM

Hey Steph, to be  honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then
I am about half a  mile from my nearest  tower.

regards

Ada/betty

________________________________

From:  Stephanie Smith mailto:_reader41%40ymail.com_ (mailto:mailto:reader41%40ymail.com) >

To: "mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com)
mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) >

Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26

Subject: [eSens] 4 G  NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

Hello everyone

The 4 G  network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am
celebrating with  family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city
tomorrow -  and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is
near a very  large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a
pretty good  idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going
tobe having a 4G  experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does
anyone have any  experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had
any tips on how  they coped with it that would be great

Many  thanks

Steph

________________________________

From:  fantasticsam131 mailto:_quaixemen%40yahoo.com_ (mailto:mailto:quaixemen%40yahoo.com) >

To: mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com)

Sent:  Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52

Subject: [eSens] Get rid of  mattresses with metal springs

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc)

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So, we get all brainless now :-) ?


--- [hidden email] <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo, 7.1.2013:

Von: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Montag, 7. Januar, 2013 12:13 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      this whole debate exposes the I am alright jack mentality and the fact that

 the human race aint as smart as it would like to think, extinction is

somewhere  on that wavelength.

 

puk

 

 

In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:57:49 GMT Standard Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



Oh God, I can imagine. I wonder it makes still sense to buy or to rent a  

house. You don't know what kind of antenna they will install there the next  

day. They do not ask us anymore :-) . Nevertheless, I found some areas where

 people start to protest that antennas for mobile phones are installed: In

an  area west of Edinburgh in Scotland or in the North of San Francisco -

but they  all continue to use WI-FI. What kind of sense makes this

then ... .  



Stefanie



--- Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

schrieb am So,  6.1.2013:



Von: Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

Betreff: Re:  [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

An: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) "

_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

Datum:  Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 15:14 Uhr



The 4 G is definitely  up and running in my area - about 300m away from my

home and I am feeling it -  in bed in the morning when it seems to kick in

it feels as if I am being  "fried" - and that is with a wooden bed and a foam

mattress with no springs or  metal in it - and during the day I feel the

vibrations all the time - then at  a point at around 5.30-6ish they ease off

as if it powers down for lower usage  or  something



Steph



________________________________



From:  C.a.b. Johnson _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >



To:  _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  



Sent:  Saturday, 29 December 2012, 2:43



Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY  TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



As I said in my previous post,  4G:



"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G  label

should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per  

second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data  

transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is  

significantly slower than 4G technology. "



Maybe the reason you are not  noticing a difference is because your area

does not have  true 4G.   Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when

their speeds are not anywhere  near 1 Gigabit per second.    



Also, I am still trying  to figure out exactly how much if any

significance, the Microwave activity is  increased or intensified due to true 4G being

5,000 faster than 3G, with more  databit actilvity.  Due to all the different

wireless companies and  plans, there are a lot of variables in various

locations because not all  networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan

areas are making  use of true 4G in certain pockets.



Hard to tell.  It is like the  Wireless Wild West out there.



C. Johnson



_Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])



Wireless  Refugee



--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye [hidden email].uk_

(mailto:[hidden email]) >  wrote:



From: ada iye [hidden email].uk_

(mailto:[hidden email]) >



Subject:  Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



To: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >



Date:  Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM



Hey Steph, to be  honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then

I am about half a  mile from my nearest  tower.



regards



Ada/betty



________________________________



From:  Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >



To: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >  



Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26



Subject: [eSens] 4 G  NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



Hello everyone



The 4 G  network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am

celebrating with  family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city

tomorrow -  and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is

near a very  large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a

pretty good  idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going

tobe having a 4G  experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does

anyone have any  experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had

any tips on how  they coped with it that would be great



Many  thanks



Steph



________________________________



From:  fantasticsam131 _quaixemen@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >



To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  



Sent:  Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52



Subject: [eSens] Get rid of  mattresses with metal springs



_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc_

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEJW8xTNnc)



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Exactly. I hope in the future the put up some comfort zones for EMF-people (like no smoking areas in the past). If more and more people get sick, they have to change it?


--- Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo, 7.1.2013:

Von: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT
An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Datum: Montag, 7. Januar, 2013 14:13 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      absolutely - where I live there was never any question of people being "asked" or "consulted" about the erection of phone masts - they just appear out of nowhere and proliferate like crazy - now they have begun to "disguise" them - which says it all really - if there was nothing to worry about and it was all nice and safe and healthy they wouldn;t need to disguise them would they? What I'd love to know is what protection those in government have access to to protect them from the health effects of their 3 blackberries and 4 smart phones which they each seem to have - cynical huh?



________________________________

 From: "[hidden email]" [hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 11:13

Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

 

 

   

 

this whole debate exposes the I am alright jack mentality and the fact that

the human race aint as smart as it would like to think, extinction is

somewhere  on that wavelength.



puk



In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:57:49 GMT Standard Time,

mailto:stefaniet2%40yahoo.com writes:



Oh God, I can imagine. I wonder it makes still sense to buy or to rent a

house. You don't know what kind of antenna they will install there the next

day. They do not ask us anymore :-) . Nevertheless, I found some areas where

people start to protest that antennas for mobile phones are installed: In

an  area west of Edinburgh in Scotland or in the North of San Francisco -

but they  all continue to use WI-FI. What kind of sense makes this

then ... .



Stefanie



--- Stephanie Smith mailto:_reader41%40ymail.com_ (mailto:mailto:reader41%40ymail.com) >

schrieb am So,  6.1.2013:



Von: Stephanie Smith mailto:_reader41%40ymail.com_ (mailto:mailto:reader41%40ymail.com) >

Betreff: Re:  [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT

An: "mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) "

mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) >

Datum:  Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 15:14 Uhr



The 4 G is definitely  up and running in my area - about 300m away from my

home and I am feeling it -  in bed in the morning when it seems to kick in

it feels as if I am being  "fried" - and that is with a wooden bed and a foam

mattress with no springs or  metal in it - and during the day I feel the

vibrations all the time - then at  a point at around 5.30-6ish they ease off

as if it powers down for lower usage  or  something



Steph



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From:  C.a.b. Johnson mailto:_superdrove%40yahoo.com_ (mailto:mailto:superdrove%40yahoo.com) >



To: mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com)



Sent:  Saturday, 29 December 2012, 2:43



Subject: Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY  TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



As I said in my previous post,  4G:



"The International Telecommunications Union has decreed that the 4G  label

should only be used for services which can offer speeds of 1 Gigabit per

second.   By comparison, 3G or third-generation networks offer data

transmission speeds averaging around 200 kilobits per second (kbps), which is

significantly slower than 4G technology. "



Maybe the reason you are not  noticing a difference is because your area

does not have  true 4G.   Apparently, some Telco's are advertising 4G when

their speeds are not anywhere  near 1 Gigabit per second.



Also, I am still trying  to figure out exactly how much if any

significance, the Microwave activity is  increased or intensified due to true 4G being

5,000 faster than 3G, with more  databit actilvity.  Due to all the different

wireless companies and  plans, there are a lot of variables in various

locations because not all  networks are equal.  Most likely, larger Metropolitan

areas are making  use of true 4G in certain pockets.



Hard to tell.  It is like the  Wireless Wild West out there.



C. Johnson



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Wireless  Refugee



--- On Fri, 12/28/12, ada iye mailto:_betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk_

(mailto:mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk) >  wrote:



From: ada iye mailto:_betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk_

(mailto:mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk) >



Subject:  Re: [eSens] 4 G NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



To: "mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com)

mailto:_eSens%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com) >



Date:  Friday, December 28, 2012, 1:08 AM



Hey Steph, to be  honest I haven't noticed any difference at all, but then

I am about half a  mile from my nearest  tower.



regards



Ada/betty



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Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 19:26



Subject: [eSens] 4 G  NETWORK - ANY TIPS ON COPING WITH IT



Hello everyone



The 4 G  network is being rolled out in my city as I write - I am

celebrating with  family in a rural area as of now but am due to return to the city

tomorrow -  and have no idea what I will be going back to. Since my house is

near a very  large urban mast collection with lots of antenna on it I have a

pretty good  idea that some of them will be upgraded to 4 G and I am going

tobe having a 4G  experience in my hjome whether I like it or not - does

anyone have any  experience of what the 4G does to ES people? and if anyone had

any tips on how  they coped with it that would be great



Many  thanks



Steph



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Sent:  Wednesday, 26 December 2012, 0:52



Subject: [eSens] Get rid of  mattresses with metal springs



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