Fw: [eSens] They don't believe me

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From: Rod Read
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Dear es group,

In the Guardian of 30/05/06 James Randerson their Science correspondent quotes the famous evolutionary biologist Prof Steve Jones:

"If somebody has decided to believe something - whatever the evidence - then there is nothing you can do about it".

His context was creationism and blind anti-science belief in the bible.

We have it worse because doctors are claiming to be acting on correct scientific precepts. Ones that are mistaken, outdated, but now exist as dogma.

The Victorian scientists who refused to accept the idea of meteorites said :

"Stones do not fall from the sky because there are no stones in the sky"

Now we have EMFs do not hurt you because EMFs cannot hurt you, or vice versa, totally self-sufficient, inexorable and in defiance of the evidence.

Put the copy of Gro Harlem Brundtland's (former secretary-general of World Health Organisation) interview under their noses and above all keep calm and rational.

Remember THEY are the deluded Hillel.

Appendix 1 Case Study, Gro Harlem Brundtland

(English translation from Cover story in Norwegian newspaper "Dagbladet" ofMarch 9, 2002: http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2002/03/09/318013.html Copyright Dagbladet 9/3/2002 )

Former Norwegian Prime Minister, WHO Director-General, Gro Harlem Brundtland is getting headaches every time she's using a mobile phone. Mobile phone radiation gives Gro Harlem Brundtland headaches.

WHO Director-General Gro Harlem Brundtland (62), gets headaches from talking on a mobile phone. That is not enough: People in her proximity must turn their phones off in order to prevent discomfort. By Aud Dalsegg Saturday 9 March 2002

"It's not the sound, but the waves I react on. My hypersensitivity has gone so far that I even react on mobiles closer to me than about four metres,"

Gro explains. When we sit with her in her office at "Helsetilsynet" in Osloshe asks if there is an active mobile phone in the room. She finds that she has developed a slight headache.

The cellular phone of the photographer was turned on but without sound in the pocket of his jacket. The earlier Minister of State [Prime Minister] never had a mobile of her own, but she has close associates who do and she earlier often received calls on their phones.

She says there are reasons to be cautious about mobile phone use.

"In the beginning I felt a local warmth around my ear. But the agony got worse, and turned into a strong discomfort and headaches every time I used a mobile phone,"

Gro says. She thought she could escape the pain by shorter calls, but it didn't help.

Neither did it help that she herself stopped using a mobile phone. Today itis a tool everybody uses, also at her workplace, the World Health Organisation (WHO) in Geneva.

"I felt after a while that I had developed a sensitivity against the radiation. And in order not to be thought to be hysterical - that someone should believe that this was just something I imagined - I have made several tests: People have been in my office with their mobile hidden in their pocket orbag. Without knowing if it was on or off, we have tested my reactions. I have always reacted when the phone has been on - never when it's off. So there is no doubt." What about PCs? - "If I hold a laptop to read what's on the screen, it feels like I get an electric shock through my arms."....

The headache she gets from mobile radiation abates about half an hour to anhour after the radiation exposure stops. She cannot stand wireless [phones].

Wireless phones, becoming more and more common in homes are said to radiatestronger than mobile phones [due to the lack of low power modes of DECT]. Gro cannot stand such [phones] either.

"I get an instant reaction if I touch such a phone".

Do you advise against using a mobile phone? -

"We do not have scientific evidence to go out with a clear warning. It is not established that the radiation for instance can result in brain cancer. WHO has a big study going on and in 2-3 years from now, we will have betteranswers to all these questions. But I understand the scientists who warn. I think we have reason to be cautious, and not use the [mobile] phone more than necessary. And the younger you are, the more reason to take this seriously. I think you should follow the precautionary principle",

Gro Harlem Brundtland says.

" Previously scientists and physicians have ignored hypersensitivity to electricity."

The Norwegian Association for Electro-sensitive felt the resistance to be so strong they closed down their work [they have since started again].

"But I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer orother diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.".

 




 







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