Furman vs. Tripplite
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I just received a Tripplite Isobar 10 outlet surge to compare with the Furman I already bought. My Entech Meter measured the Furman at a steady 0.3 The Tripplite measures 9.0-9.x and keeps fluctuating. I think this proves that the Furman is superior. Too bad it didn't help that static on my TV when my neighbor uses her treadmill but i think i may try putting the TV coax through it and see what happens. The Tripplite goes back to Amazon.
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How about putting something "dirty" on it, and see if the noise gets through the filter back to the house wiring? Basically, plug in a compact fluorescent bulb and measure the dirty power on a different outlet. You can also put an AM radio next to the chord to see if the noise level is attenuated. Eli --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote: > > I just received a Tripplite Isobar 10 outlet surge to compare with the Furman I already bought. My Entech Meter measured the Furman at a steady 0.3 The Tripplite measures 9.0-9.x and keeps fluctuating. I think this proves that the Furman is superior. Too bad it didn't help that static on my TV when my neighbor uses her treadmill but i think i may try putting the TV coax through it and see what happens. The Tripplite goes back to Amazon. > |
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> How about putting something "dirty" on it,
> and see if the noise gets through the filter > back to the house wiring? Basically, plug in a > compact fluorescent bulb and measure the dirty > power on a different outlet. You can also put > an AM radio next to the chord to see if the > noise level is attenuated. I did something like this 10 months ago and posted the results. Here they are again: KEY Furman = Furman PST-10D power strip Power Sentry = Power Sentry 6-outlet power strip Blue Circle = Blue Circle Power Line Pillow MkIII (parallel filter) Noise Harvester = PS Audio Noise Harvester (parallel filter) Isobar New = Tripp Lite Isobar new version Isobar Old = Tripp Lite Isobar old version, -75db outlet Brickwall = Brick Wall Surge Suppressor Stetzer = reading on the Stetzer meter Entech = reading on the Entech meter MEASURE NOISE AT WALL OUTLET WHEN THESE DEVICES ARE PLUGGED INTO THE OTHER OUTLET No filter Stetzer=190 Entech=59 Furman Stetzer=130 Entech=23 Power Sentry Stetzer=240 Entech=5 Blue Circle Stetzer= 95 Entech=2 Noise Harvester Stetzer=153 Entech=0.3 Isobar new Stetzer=200 Entech=20 Isobar old Stetzer=180 Entech=66 Brickwall Stetzer=135 Entech=55 FILTER PLUGGED INTO WALL OUTLET, MEASURE NOISE AT FILTER OUTLET (FILTER OUTPUTS) Furman Stetzer= 30 Entech=0.1 Power Sentry Stetzer= 80 Entech=4 Isobar new Stetzer= 40 Entech=3 Isobar old Stetzer= 54 Entech=0.1 Brickwall Stetzer=100 Entech=0.2 VACCUM CLEANER TURNED ON AND PLUGGED INTO FILTER (OR PARALLEL DEVICE USED IN ANOTHER WALL OUTLET), MEASURE NOISE AT OTHER WALL OUTLET No filter Stetzer=1100 Entech=176 Furman Stetzer=370 Entech=20 Power Sentry Stetzer=1000 Entech=44 Blue Circle Stetzer=500 Entech=17 Noise Harvester Stetzer=700 Entech=2.5 Isobar new Stetzer=570 Entech=21 Isobar old Stetzer=1000 Entech=80 Brickwall Stetzer=570 Entech=62 VACUUM CLEANER TURNED ON AND PLUGGED INTO WALL OUTLET, FILTER PLUGGED INTO OTHER WALL OUTLET, MEASURE NOISE AT FILTER OUTLET (FILTER OUTPUTS): No filter Stetzer=1100 Entech=170 Furman Stetzer=400 Entech=0.6 Power Sentry Stetzer=1100 Entech=38 Isobar new Stetzer=600 Entech=5 Isobar old Stetzer=1000 Entech=2 Brickwall Stetzer=600 Entech=1 Marc |
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It seems from those results Furman wins. Too bad you didn't test the famed "Stetzer" filter. Filterconcepts apparently has quality filters with differential and common mode noise reduction. Eli --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > How about putting something "dirty" on it, > > and see if the noise gets through the filter > > back to the house wiring? Basically, plug in a > > compact fluorescent bulb and measure the dirty > > power on a different outlet. You can also put > > an AM radio next to the chord to see if the > > noise level is attenuated. > > I did something like this 10 months ago and posted the results. > Here they are again: > > KEY > Furman = Furman PST-10D power strip > Power Sentry = Power Sentry 6-outlet power strip > Blue Circle = Blue Circle Power Line Pillow MkIII (parallel filter) > Noise Harvester = PS Audio Noise Harvester (parallel filter) > Isobar New = Tripp Lite Isobar new version > Isobar Old = Tripp Lite Isobar old version, -75db outlet > Brickwall = Brick Wall Surge Suppressor > Stetzer = reading on the Stetzer meter > Entech = reading on the Entech meter > > MEASURE NOISE AT WALL OUTLET WHEN THESE DEVICES > ARE PLUGGED INTO THE OTHER OUTLET > > No filter Stetzer=190 Entech=59 > Furman Stetzer=130 Entech=23 > Power Sentry Stetzer=240 Entech=5 > Blue Circle Stetzer= 95 Entech=2 > Noise Harvester Stetzer=153 Entech=0.3 > Isobar new Stetzer=200 Entech=20 > Isobar old Stetzer=180 Entech=66 > Brickwall Stetzer=135 Entech=55 > > FILTER PLUGGED INTO WALL OUTLET, MEASURE NOISE AT > FILTER OUTLET (FILTER OUTPUTS) > > Furman Stetzer= 30 Entech=0.1 > Power Sentry Stetzer= 80 Entech=4 > Isobar new Stetzer= 40 Entech=3 > Isobar old Stetzer= 54 Entech=0.1 > Brickwall Stetzer=100 Entech=0.2 > > VACCUM CLEANER TURNED ON AND PLUGGED INTO FILTER > (OR PARALLEL DEVICE USED IN ANOTHER WALL OUTLET), > MEASURE NOISE AT OTHER WALL OUTLET > > No filter Stetzer=1100 Entech=176 > Furman Stetzer=370 Entech=20 > Power Sentry Stetzer=1000 Entech=44 > Blue Circle Stetzer=500 Entech=17 > Noise Harvester Stetzer=700 Entech=2.5 > Isobar new Stetzer=570 Entech=21 > Isobar old Stetzer=1000 Entech=80 > Brickwall Stetzer=570 Entech=62 > > VACUUM CLEANER TURNED ON AND PLUGGED INTO WALL OUTLET, > FILTER PLUGGED INTO OTHER WALL OUTLET, MEASURE NOISE > AT FILTER OUTLET (FILTER OUTPUTS): > > No filter Stetzer=1100 Entech=170 > Furman Stetzer=400 Entech=0.6 > Power Sentry Stetzer=1100 Entech=38 > Isobar new Stetzer=600 Entech=5 > Isobar old Stetzer=1000 Entech=2 > Brickwall Stetzer=600 Entech=1 > > Marc > |
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I don't use fluorescent bulbs, but when everything is on I will see how the next outlet is affected between the 2 surge protectors. My cell sensor went off near the Furman but doesn't react that much to the Tripplite. Interesting
--- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote: > > > > How about putting something "dirty" on it, > and see if the noise gets through the filter > back to the house wiring? Basically, plug in a > compact fluorescent bulb and measure the dirty > power on a different outlet. You can also put > an AM radio next to the chord to see if the > noise level is attenuated. > > Eli > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > I just received a Tripplite Isobar 10 outlet surge to compare with the Furman I already bought. My Entech Meter measured the Furman at a steady 0.3 The Tripplite measures 9.0-9.x and keeps fluctuating. I think this proves that the Furman is superior. Too bad it didn't help that static on my TV when my neighbor uses her treadmill but i think i may try putting the TV coax through it and see what happens. The Tripplite goes back to Amazon. > > > |
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Thanks for the numbers. If I remember correctly you opted to go with the Furmans, correct?
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > How about putting something "dirty" on it, > > and see if the noise gets through the filter > > back to the house wiring? Basically, plug in a > > compact fluorescent bulb and measure the dirty > > power on a different outlet. You can also put > > an AM radio next to the chord to see if the > > noise level is attenuated. > > I did something like this 10 months ago and posted the results. > Here they are again: > > KEY > Furman = Furman PST-10D power strip > Power Sentry = Power Sentry 6-outlet power strip > Blue Circle = Blue Circle Power Line Pillow MkIII (parallel filter) > Noise Harvester = PS Audio Noise Harvester (parallel filter) > Isobar New = Tripp Lite Isobar new version > Isobar Old = Tripp Lite Isobar old version, -75db outlet > Brickwall = Brick Wall Surge Suppressor > Stetzer = reading on the Stetzer meter > Entech = reading on the Entech meter > > MEASURE NOISE AT WALL OUTLET WHEN THESE DEVICES > ARE PLUGGED INTO THE OTHER OUTLET > > No filter Stetzer=190 Entech=59 > Furman Stetzer=130 Entech=23 > Power Sentry Stetzer=240 Entech=5 > Blue Circle Stetzer= 95 Entech=2 > Noise Harvester Stetzer=153 Entech=0.3 > Isobar new Stetzer=200 Entech=20 > Isobar old Stetzer=180 Entech=66 > Brickwall Stetzer=135 Entech=55 > > FILTER PLUGGED INTO WALL OUTLET, MEASURE NOISE AT > FILTER OUTLET (FILTER OUTPUTS) > > Furman Stetzer= 30 Entech=0.1 > Power Sentry Stetzer= 80 Entech=4 > Isobar new Stetzer= 40 Entech=3 > Isobar old Stetzer= 54 Entech=0.1 > Brickwall Stetzer=100 Entech=0.2 > > VACCUM CLEANER TURNED ON AND PLUGGED INTO FILTER > (OR PARALLEL DEVICE USED IN ANOTHER WALL OUTLET), > MEASURE NOISE AT OTHER WALL OUTLET > > No filter Stetzer=1100 Entech=176 > Furman Stetzer=370 Entech=20 > Power Sentry Stetzer=1000 Entech=44 > Blue Circle Stetzer=500 Entech=17 > Noise Harvester Stetzer=700 Entech=2.5 > Isobar new Stetzer=570 Entech=21 > Isobar old Stetzer=1000 Entech=80 > Brickwall Stetzer=570 Entech=62 > > VACUUM CLEANER TURNED ON AND PLUGGED INTO WALL OUTLET, > FILTER PLUGGED INTO OTHER WALL OUTLET, MEASURE NOISE > AT FILTER OUTLET (FILTER OUTPUTS): > > No filter Stetzer=1100 Entech=170 > Furman Stetzer=400 Entech=0.6 > Power Sentry Stetzer=1100 Entech=38 > Isobar new Stetzer=600 Entech=5 > Isobar old Stetzer=1000 Entech=2 > Brickwall Stetzer=600 Entech=1 > > Marc > |
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> Thanks for the numbers. If I remember correctly you opted to go with the
> Furmans, correct? Yes, those and the Quantum Products power strips. I actually think the Quantum power strips are the only ones which make me feel better. But the Furman was the winner in the meter-readings. Marc |
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Then I'm keeping the Furman. As for Quantum I kept one of their 3 outlet plugs for the fridge but I hope they switch to a better quality strip because the cheap plastic stunk on the one I got before
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Thanks for the numbers. If I remember correctly you opted to go with the > > Furmans, correct? > > Yes, those and the Quantum Products power strips. I actually think the > Quantum power strips are the only ones which make me feel > better. But the Furman was the winner in the meter-readings. > Marc > |
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> It seems from those results Furman wins. Too bad
> you didn't test the famed "Stetzer" filter. Yes, I must have thrown away my Stetzer filter (?). Of course, if I just used one Stetzer filter, someone would point out that I should be using 20 of them, not one. Marc |
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I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it
yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one free!) on Amazon. I detected a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... Bill On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:46 PM, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Then I'm keeping the Furman. As for Quantum I kept one of their 3 outlet > plugs for the fridge but I hope they switch to a better quality strip > because the cheap plastic stunk on the one I got before > > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the numbers. If I remember correctly you opted to go with > the > > > Furmans, correct? > > > > Yes, those and the Quantum Products power strips. I actually think the > > Quantum power strips are the only ones which make me feel > > better. But the Furman was the winner in the meter-readings. > > Marc > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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Quantum Products seems to be able to use any "stock" power
strip and turn it into a "Quantum Power Conditioner". Which of course brings up the question -- can someone send them their favorite power strip, and then later receive back a "Quantumized" version of it? All of the Quantum Power Conditioners I have (bought many years ago) are based off of Power Sentry models. But my reactions to them are completely different than my reaction to the regular versions sold at the hardware store. Marc On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:11:06 -0700, "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> said: > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill |
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I came across this information on the emf safety network...letters written by people complaining of smart meters health effects. I haven't had a chance to check out section 704 as of yet, but wanted to post it in case this information should prove useful. Lizzie For anyone who wishes to fight the installation of a Smart Meter on their home for medical reasons, I would like to share my own successful experience. I live in the San Diego area most of us in California live very close to our neighbors homes, and unfortunately there is nothing to date we can do to stop installation of their meters. However, nothing in The Telecommunications Act of 1996 prohibits us from complaining about health when installing a Smart Meter on our own homes. A Smart Meter is NOT a wireless facility [thus exempted from health concerns] and many of us will be/are being harmed by the unwelcome radiation in our homes. Do not let your electric company tell you otherwise. Tell them to very carefully read Section 704 of The Telecommunications Act of 1996 and ask how they would define a Smart Meter as a wireless facility i.e. are cell phones wireless facilities? Of course not. It defies logic. But be prepared, because that excuse may be attempted by your electric company. SDG&E tried it unsuccessfully. Bottom Line: You do have a right to complain about health concerns, but be prepared to offer solid proof by way of a physician s documentation. To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:21:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Furman vs. Tripplite Quantum Products seems to be able to use any "stock" power strip and turn it into a "Quantum Power Conditioner". Which of course brings up the question -- can someone send them their favorite power strip, and then later receive back a "Quantumized" version of it? All of the Quantum Power Conditioners I have (bought many years ago) are based off of Power Sentry models. But my reactions to them are completely different than my reaction to the regular versions sold at the hardware store. Marc On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:11:06 -0700, "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> said: > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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I've tried a few Belkin power surges which I think were about 40 dB-- in my opinion, it did not help. I replaced it with an old power surge protector after comparing a few old ones to find which has the lowest sound on the AM meter at the lowest frequency setting.
--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill |
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Hey, does anyone happen to know if you can change out the cord on a surge protector with the mu-chord *(low emf cable)? Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:35:37 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Furman vs. Tripplite I've tried a few Belkin power surges which I think were about 40 dB-- in my opinion, it did not help. I replaced it with an old power surge protector after comparing a few old ones to find which has the lowest sound on the AM meter at the lowest frequency setting. --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'm a little confused because you say you'd like to share your successful experience but then you say there is nothing you can do in at this point to stop installation of the meters. Well how is that successful at all? Did you know that 31 California towns/cities & 4 counties have declared a moratorium on installation of smart meters? Some progress. Loni Wed, 3/9/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] RE: SMART METER INFO To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 6:15 PM I came across this information on the emf safety network...letters written by people complaining of smart meters health effects. I haven't had a chance to check out section 704 as of yet, but wanted to post it in case this information should prove useful. Lizzie For anyone who wishes to fight the installation of a Smart Meter on their home for medical reasons, I would like to share my own successful experience. I live in the San Diego area –most of us in California live very close to our neighbors homes, and unfortunately there is nothing to date we can do to stop installation of their meters. However, nothing in The Telecommunications Act of 1996 prohibits us from complaining about health when installing a Smart Meter on our own homes. A “Smart Meter” is NOT a “wireless facility” [thus exempted from health concerns] and many of us will be/are being harmed by the unwelcome radiation in our homes. Do not let your electric company tell you otherwise. Tell them to very carefully read Section 704 of The Telecommunications Act of 1996 and ask how they would define a Smart Meter as a wireless facility – i.e. are cell phones wireless facilities? Of course not. It defies logic. But be prepared, because that excuse may be attempted by your electric company. SDG&E tried it –unsuccessfully. Bottom Line: You do have a right to complain about health concerns, but be prepared to offer solid proof by way of a physician’ s documentation. To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:21:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Furman vs. Tripplite Quantum Products seems to be able to use any "stock" power strip and turn it into a "Quantum Power Conditioner". Which of course brings up the question -- can someone send them their favorite power strip, and then later receive back a "Quantumized" version of it? All of the Quantum Power Conditioners I have (bought many years ago) are based off of Power Sentry models. But my reactions to them are completely different than my reaction to the regular versions sold at the hardware store. Marc On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:11:06 -0700, "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> said: > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Loni, I'm sorry, I should have made that info more clear. The first sentence is from me. The paragraph that follows is an exerpt taken from a letter, that contained what looked like potentially useful information for all of us. **That would be the part about the section 704 of the telecommunications act. I don't live in the San Diego area, and for the record, I don't believe that there's no way to stop this madness. What I do believe, is that we need to find the "smoking gun"...the piece of the puzzle that gives us what we need to successfully win this battle. I keep thinking its somewhere, in the small print. I"m sorry for the confusion. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:15:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] RE: SMART METER INFO I'm a little confused because you say you'd like to share your successful experience but then you say there is nothing you can do in at this point to stop installation of the meters. Well how is that successful at all? Did you know that 31 California towns/cities & 4 counties have declared a moratorium on installation of smart meters? Some progress. Loni Wed, 3/9/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] RE: SMART METER INFO To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 6:15 PM I came across this information on the emf safety network...letters written by people complaining of smart meters health effects. I haven't had a chance to check out section 704 as of yet, but wanted to post it in case this information should prove useful. Lizzie For anyone who wishes to fight the installation of a Smart Meter on their home for medical reasons, I would like to share my own successful experience. I live in the San Diego area most of us in California live very close to our neighbors homes, and unfortunately there is nothing to date we can do to stop installation of their meters. However, nothing in The Telecommunications Act of 1996 prohibits us from complaining about health when installing a Smart Meter on our own homes. A Smart Meter is NOT a wireless facility [thus exempted from health concerns] and many of us will be/are being harmed by the unwelcome radiation in our homes. Do not let your electric company tell you otherwise. Tell them to very carefully read Section 704 of The Telecommunications Act of 1996 and ask how they would define a Smart Meter as a wireless facility i.e. are cell phones wireless facilities? Of course not. It defies logic. But be prepared, because that excuse may be attempted by your electric company. SDG&E tried it unsuccessfully. Bottom Line: You do have a right to complain about health concerns, but be prepared to offer solid proof by way of a physician s documentation. To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:21:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Furman vs. Tripplite Quantum Products seems to be able to use any "stock" power strip and turn it into a "Quantum Power Conditioner". Which of course brings up the question -- can someone send them their favorite power strip, and then later receive back a "Quantumized" version of it? All of the Quantum Power Conditioners I have (bought many years ago) are based off of Power Sentry models. But my reactions to them are completely different than my reaction to the regular versions sold at the hardware store. Marc On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:11:06 -0700, "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> said: > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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Probably not worth it unless for some reason the cord has
to be close to your body. If all the wiring in your house and to computer were shielded/twisted then it might make sense. For stereophiles they make mains cords which have a ferrite layer. But in most cases the computer is the problem, not the cords (but the cords do radiate too). On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Hey, does anyone happen to know if you can change out the cord on a surge > protector with the mu-chord *(low emf cable)? > Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:35:37 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Furman vs. Tripplite > > > I've tried a few Belkin power surges which I think were about 40 dB-- in my > opinion, it did not help. I replaced it with an old power surge protector > after comparing a few old ones to find which has the lowest sound on the AM > meter at the lowest frequency setting. > > --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > > > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > > free!) on Amazon. I detected > > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > > Bill > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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In reply to this post by BiBrun
Never been impressed with Belkin. For the less expensive strips I like the APC Pro 7 outlet the best (less than $20 on Amazon)
--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:46 PM, torch369 <torch369@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Then I'm keeping the Furman. As for Quantum I kept one of their 3 outlet > > plugs for the fridge but I hope they switch to a better quality strip > > because the cheap plastic stunk on the one I got before > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for the numbers. If I remember correctly you opted to go with > > the > > > > Furmans, correct? > > > > > > Yes, those and the Quantum Products power strips. I actually think the > > > Quantum power strips are the only ones which make me feel > > > better. But the Furman was the winner in the meter-readings. > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Hi Bill-are you a suffere of ES as well? Do you happen to know of any support groups that one could reach by phone? If so if you could let me know...also are you homebound?
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Furman vs. Tripplite To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 5:21 PM Quantum Products seems to be able to use any "stock" power strip and turn it into a "Quantum Power Conditioner". Which of course brings up the question -- can someone send them their favorite power strip, and then later receive back a "Quantumized" version of it? All of the Quantum Power Conditioners I have (bought many years ago) are based off of Power Sentry models. But my reactions to them are completely different than my reaction to the regular versions sold at the hardware store. Marc On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:11:06 -0700, "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> said: > I got the "7 outlet" power strip yesterday. Have not tried it > yet, but it is the same on the outside as a popular ~$26 Belkin > power strip (with 8 outlets actually; Quantum gives you one > free!) on Amazon. I detected > a faint smell coming from the inside... quality seems good > (but it is plastic). Some of the screws are replaced with the > pre-stripped tamper resistant kind. > > Some on Amazon claim the lightning protection from the > Belkin is not very good. The Belkin claims "up to" 75dB > attenuation above 150kHz, which is not that informative. > > I'm planning to get a regular Belkin too... > Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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