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Fluorescent Lighting

PickPinkFlowers
 I would like to hear what effect fluorescent lighting has on those sensitive to it.  At the extreme end, how bad can a reaction get?  Josie


     

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Donnie
I would like to hear what effect fluorescent lighting has on those sensitive to it. At the extreme end, how bad can a reaction get?

Josie


I can't be around the compact fluorescent light bulbs. They give me a migraine, vertigo and nausea.

They also will cause interference, buzzing and sound distortion in a hearing aid.

Donnie

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Re: Fluorescent Lighting

BiBrun
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There is a great variation in the emissions from fluorescent lights.
It depends what kind of ballast, what condition (visible flicker, audible
noise), how it is installed,
what kind of bulbs.



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For me-if it's somewhere that they have a LOT of them (Big Lots,
SuperTarget, grocery stores) low, and right overhead, and usually open, within just
a few minutes I go into somewhat of a trance, extreme nauseousness,
headache on one side, deep muscle pain, dizziness and a very upset stomach. Those
are my worse symptoms.
If wearing sunglasses I can last longer but still have some symptoms, to a
lesser degree.
Amy

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Re: Fluorescent Lighting

enviroky
Hi Josie,
I know quite a few people who are sensitive to fluorescent lighting. The new compact fluorescents are extremely bad for three reasons - 1)the mercury:they need to be disposed of as hazardous waste 2)they give off high electromagnetic radiation 3)they also give off UV radiation. The Canadian government is studying the last two. Unfortunately, they are still working towardsbanning incandescent bulbs by 2012. The alternative is LED, which are getting cheaper and more user friendly (a better light for reading).
In the meantime, stay away from those places that have a high quantity of fluorescent lighting. If you are sensitive to it, listen to your body! If you don't listen, it will only weaken your immune system over time. That said, there are ways to strenthen your immune system - cleanses, reducing your toxin intake, etc.
I hope this helps.
Ky


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> For me-if it's somewhere that they have a LOT of them (Big Lots,  
> SuperTarget, grocery stores) low, and right overhead, and usually open, within just
> a few minutes I go into somewhat of a trance, extreme nauseousness,  
> headache on one side, deep muscle pain, dizziness and a very upset stomach. Those
> are my worse symptoms.
> If wearing sunglasses I can last longer but still have some symptoms, to a  
> lesser degree.
> Amy
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> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
> steps!
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Re: Fluorescent Lighting

Peter Needham
So are the LED lights good for electrosensitivity then? - I had just
found out about them from an electrician friend of mine last week!

I have steadfastly refused to go Fleuro..

Cheers
Pete

enviroky wrote:

> Hi Josie,
> I know quite a few people who are sensitive to fluorescent lighting. The new compact fluorescents are extremely bad for three reasons - 1)the mercury: they need to be disposed of as hazardous waste 2)they give off high electromagnetic radiation 3)they also give off UV radiation. The Canadian government is studying the last two. Unfortunately, they are still working towards banning incandescent bulbs by 2012. The alternative is LED, which are getting cheaper and more user friendly (a better light for reading).
> In the meantime, stay away from those places that have a high quantity of fluorescent lighting. If you are sensitive to it, listen to your body! If you don't listen, it will only weaken your immune system over time. That said, there are ways to strenthen your immune system - cleanses, reducing your toxin intake, etc.
> I hope this helps.
> Ky
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> --- In [hidden email], javamdnss@... wrote:
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>> I would like to hear what effect fluorescent lighting has on those
>> sensitive to it. At the extreme end, how bad can a reaction get? Josie}}}
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>> For me-if it's somewhere that they have a LOT of them (Big Lots,
>> SuperTarget, grocery stores) low, and right overhead, and usually open, within just
>> a few minutes I go into somewhat of a trance, extreme nauseousness,
>> headache on one side, deep muscle pain, dizziness and a very upset stomach. Those
>> are my worse symptoms.
>> If wearing sunglasses I can last longer but still have some symptoms, to a
>> lesser degree.
>> Amy
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>> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
>> steps!
>> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322950x1201367186/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=
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Re: Fluorescent Lighting

BiBrun
I've experimented with two Lights of America LED bulbs, 1.5W and 3.5 W.
I was pleasantly surprised not to detect any noise on an AM radio.
The harmonic buzz at ELF magnetic fields was bad, so I wouldn't want
these near my head (or sleep near a wire feeding these). The lights
are not very bright, and the color spectrum of LEDs currently is very
artificial. I suspect there could be subliminal flicker in some too.

I'm looking at the 3.5 W (model 2004LEDDL) now and it says "Not for use with
dimmer circuit,"
which is rather suspicious.

LED bulbs are very promising, but read this review before buying:
http://www.amazon.com/review/RQWX3NZN1RJN4/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

Bill

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, pete <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> So are the LED lights good for electrosensitivity then? - I had just
> found out about them from an electrician friend of mine last week!
>
> I have steadfastly refused to go Fleuro..
>
> Cheers
> Pete
>
>
> enviroky wrote:
> > Hi Josie,
> > I know quite a few people who are sensitive to fluorescent lighting. The
> new compact fluorescents are extremely bad for three reasons - 1)the
> mercury: they need to be disposed of as hazardous waste 2)they give off high
> electromagnetic radiation 3)they also give off UV radiation. The Canadian
> government is studying the last two. Unfortunately, they are still working
> towards banning incandescent bulbs by 2012. The alternative is LED, which
> are getting cheaper and more user friendly (a better light for reading).
> > In the meantime, stay away from those places that have a high quantity of
> fluorescent lighting. If you are sensitive to it, listen to your body! If
> you don't listen, it will only weaken your immune system over time. That
> said, there are ways to strenthen your immune system - cleanses, reducing
> your toxin intake, etc.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Ky
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, javamdnss@...
> wrote:
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> >> {{{ haggisisscotsfood@... writes:
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> >> I would like to hear what effect fluorescent lighting has on those
> >> sensitive to it. At the extreme end, how bad can a reaction get?
> Josie}}}
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> >> For me-if it's somewhere that they have a LOT of them (Big Lots,
> >> SuperTarget, grocery stores) low, and right overhead, and usually open,
> within just
> >> a few minutes I go into somewhat of a trance, extreme nauseousness,
> >> headache on one side, deep muscle pain, dizziness and a very upset
> stomach. Those
> >> are my worse symptoms.
> >> If wearing sunglasses I can last longer but still have some symptoms, to
> a
> >> lesser degree.
> >> Amy
> >>
> >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2
> easy
> >> steps!
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> http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322950x1201367186/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=
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Re: Fluorescent Lighting

Amy Green
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I get dizzy and wobbly, can't think straight and it bothers my vision. If I stay too long, I get really hot and can feel quite faint. However, it varies with the day -- some days I manage, some days I can't take it at all. Strangely, it varies with the time of day. I can manage fluorescent lights pretty well in the evening, but not during the day. That makes no sense to me. Stores like Target and WalMart are the worst -- grocery stores too.

I can't stand any flicker with lights -- so even if it's a regular light, with a ceiling fan making the light seem like it's flickering, it bothers me.

Amy




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I would like to hear what effect fluorescent lighting has on those sensitive to it. At the extreme end, how bad can a reaction get? Josie




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javamdnss
Oh yes! I'd forgotten this bothers me greatly too. I cannot stand the ceiling light and the fan on at the same time. Some people can't stand the flickering sunlight through the trees. That is why sometimes this affliction reminds me of epilepsy.
Amy (the other Amy) ;)

I can't stand any flicker with lights -- so even if it's a regular light, with a ceiling fan making the light seem like it's flickering, it bothers me.




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Donnie
>Some people can't stand the flickering sunlight through the trees.


I've had a lot of problems with that, while on the road. Fortunately, I wasn't driving. I had vertigo, nausea and developed an ocular migraine, and felt terrible.

My son has had the same thing happen to him, twice in the past month. He was on his way to work, both times. Needless to say, he didn't get any work done those days.

Donnie

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R. Ticle
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Interesting - I generally enjoy sunlight filtering through the trees.  I do, however, despise visibly flickering fluorescent lights.  I was in thedrugstore the other day and a few were doing it; I asked the woman at the counter if she noticed it, and she said, "yeah, I see it, but it really doesn't bother me at all."

What?

I don't know how anyone can't find that rapid pulsing at least a bit disorienting.  I dislike fluorescent lighting as a rule, but some places are better than others.  Walmart (which I've only been in once in my life) feels like hell; dunno what it is about that place, certainly it's the lights, but the whole building inside feels like it's crushing you.  The employees seemed like zombies; I'm not surprised.

R.

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>Some people can't stand the flickering sunlight through the trees.


I've had a lot of problems with that, while on the road. Fortunately, I wasn't driving. I had vertigo, nausea and developed an ocular migraine, and felt terrible.

My son has had the same thing happen to him, twice in the past month. He was on his way to work, both times. Needless to say, he didn't get any work done those days.

Donnie


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