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Aimee-2
How sad for his family.  He must have suffered tremendously.  Makes me realize that I don't have it so bad after all.
 
May he RIP
 
Aimee

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Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012, 9:51 AM


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This is desperately desperately sad - I hope that his death is not dismissed by officialdom as due to some "fault" on his part that he was somehow lacking in being unable to cope with electrosensitivity and being electrosensitive, although sadly I fear that this will likely be the case. Things must have been unbearable for him for him to do this even though he had family support and help and understanding. There are many of us i would imagine who don't have that.

I would also take issue with the lazy journalism in the article about the absence of a biomarker - I could be wrong but I read something online recently about some doctor in Italy maybe? who was able to ascertain changes in the body which did correspond to electrosensitivity. 

May Michael maybe now find the peace that he was denied during his life and my sympathies are with his parents and family. 

Steph



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How sad for his family.  He must have suffered tremendously.  Makes me realize that I don't have it so bad after all.
 
May he RIP
 
Aimee

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Subject: [eSens] Electrosensitive commits suicide
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Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012, 9:51 AM

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ESther
I just have to vent.  I am sick and tired of people saying that a  
health condition doesn't exist because there's no diagnostic proof.  I  
became ill in 1989 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and spent all of the  
1990's and into the 2000's being told it doesn't exist because there  
isn't any proof.  (There are still many doctors who have no idea what  
CFS is.)  The same with Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, which which I  
acquired at the same time.  I had a doctor tell me he couldn't concur  
with a MCS diagnosis because the body doesn't make anti-bodies to  
chemicals as occurs in allergies, and therefore there was no "proof".  
Duh.  Chemicals aren't allergens; they are substances that interfere  
with normal chemistry/hormonal balance of the body.  No, the immune  
system does not make antibodies to them (as far as I know).  It's bad  
enough to suffer from these conditions, but to be completely  
invalidated at the same time is hurtful and destructive to a person  
trying to cope and heal.

Now it's electrosensitivity.  I have been suicidally depressed at  
different times from all of these conditions.  When I become  
depressed, I'm aware that it is caused by the conditions, i.e. that my  
brain chemicals and hormones are being disrupted and thrown out of  
balance, but knowing that doesn't keep me from experiencing the  
depression.  I've gone to bed more than once over the past 23 years,  
praying I won't wake up because I'm so worn down from the struggles  
and the daily losses. I suffer every day, as does everyone else who  
has these illnesses.  It's a testament to everyone's courage to have  
ES and these other "invisible" conditions, and still keep going.

I understand that Multiple Sclerosis was thought to be an hysterical  
condition when it first appeared (after dentists started placing  
mercury amalgams), and it was many years before it became  
"legitimized".  The problem with Western medicine is that if they  
don't know what causes something, then they deny it exists.  It  
appears they think there are a few of us engaged in a group hypnosis,  
i.e. somehow a few people from all over the world magically decide to  
have the same specific symptoms, but we're all making it up.

My heart goes out to that young man and to his family, and to everyone  
who is suffering.  Thank God for the internet, this group and others,  
that allow us to connect with each other for support, encouragement,  
and the sharing of information that helps us find help and healing.

Esther

On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

> This is desperately desperately sad - I hope that his death is not  
> dismissed by officialdom as due to some "fault" on his part that he  
> was somehow lacking in being unable to cope with electrosensitivity  
> and being electrosensitive, although sadly I fear that this will  
> likely be the case. Things must have been unbearable for him for him  
> to do this even though he had family support and help and  
> understanding. There are many of us i would imagine who don't have  
> that.
>
> I would also take issue with the lazy journalism in the article  
> about the absence of a biomarker - I could be wrong but I read  
> something online recently about some doctor in Italy maybe? who was  
> able to ascertain changes in the body which did correspond to  
> electrosensitivity.
>
> May Michael maybe now find the peace that he was denied during his  
> life and my sympathies are with his parents and family.
>
> Steph
>
>



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Patricia
doctors might be able to relate to the fact that if a chemical is
designed to kill - viruses, germs, bugs, pests - then it might also
harm all lifeforms.  a tiny bit can kill a bug and repeated exposure
can make a human ill.  most chemical products on the market are
designed to kill something - ostensibly to make us safer.  let's
educate doctors and also vote with our dollars and avoid chemicals.
anybody need any help figuring out what to use instead of mega
chemical products?  we can talk about it here.  it's easy to live
pretty much chemical-free - at least in your own home.  
let the questions come.  we'll brainstorm cheaper, easier, safer
ways to do everything. :)  
love, patricia


On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Esther LeSieur wrote:

> I just have to vent.  I am sick and tired of people saying that a  
> health condition doesn't exist because there's no diagnostic proof.  I  
> became ill in 1989 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and spent all of the  
> 1990's and into the 2000's being told it doesn't exist because there  
> isn't any proof.  (There are still many doctors who have no idea what  
> CFS is.)  The same with Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, which which I  
> acquired at the same time.  I had a doctor tell me he couldn't concur  
> with a MCS diagnosis because the body doesn't make anti-bodies to  
> chemicals as occurs in allergies, and therefore there was no "proof".  
> Duh.  Chemicals aren't allergens; they are substances that interfere  
> with normal chemistry/hormonal balance of the body.  No, the immune  
> system does not make antibodies to them (as far as I know).  It's bad  
> enough to suffer from these conditions, but to be completely  
> invalidated at the same time is hurtful and destructive to a person  
> trying to cope and heal.
>
> Now it's electrosensitivity.  I have been suicidally depressed at  
> different times from all of these conditions.  When I become  
> depressed, I'm aware that it is caused by the conditions, i.e. that my  
> brain chemicals and hormones are being disrupted and thrown out of  
> balance, but knowing that doesn't keep me from experiencing the  
> depression.  I've gone to bed more than once over the past 23 years,  
> praying I won't wake up because I'm so worn down from the struggles  
> and the daily losses. I suffer every day, as does everyone else who  
> has these illnesses.  It's a testament to everyone's courage to have  
> ES and these other "invisible" conditions, and still keep going.
>
> I understand that Multiple Sclerosis was thought to be an hysterical  
> condition when it first appeared (after dentists started placing  
> mercury amalgams), and it was many years before it became  
> "legitimized".  The problem with Western medicine is that if they  
> don't know what causes something, then they deny it exists.  It  
> appears they think there are a few of us engaged in a group hypnosis,  
> i.e. somehow a few people from all over the world magically decide to  
> have the same specific symptoms, but we're all making it up.
>
> My heart goes out to that young man and to his family, and to everyone  
> who is suffering.  Thank God for the internet, this group and others,  
> that allow us to connect with each other for support, encouragement,  
> and the sharing of information that helps us find help and healing.
>
> Esther
>
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:
>
>> This is desperately desperately sad - I hope that his death is not  
>> dismissed by officialdom as due to some "fault" on his part that he  
>> was somehow lacking in being unable to cope with electrosensitivity  
>> and being electrosensitive, although sadly I fear that this will  
>> likely be the case. Things must have been unbearable for him for him  
>> to do this even though he had family support and help and  
>> understanding. There are many of us i would imagine who don't have  
>> that.
>>
>> I would also take issue with the lazy journalism in the article  
>> about the absence of a biomarker - I could be wrong but I read  
>> something online recently about some doctor in Italy maybe? who was  
>> able to ascertain changes in the body which did correspond to  
>> electrosensitivity.
>>
>> May Michael maybe now find the peace that he was denied during his  
>> life and my sympathies are with his parents and family.
>>
>> Steph
>>
>>
>
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PUK
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Thanks for your well composed and meaningful "vent"
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 15/11/2012 08:58:26 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

I just  have to vent.  I am sick and tired of people saying that a  
health condition doesn't exist because there's no diagnostic proof.   I  
became ill in 1989 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and spent all of  the  
1990's and into the 2000's being told it doesn't exist because  there  
isn't any proof.  (There are still many doctors who have  no idea what  
CFS is.)  The same with Multiple Chemical  Sensitivities, which which I  
acquired at the same time.  I had  a doctor tell me he couldn't concur  
with a MCS diagnosis because the  body doesn't make anti-bodies to  
chemicals as occurs in allergies,  and therefore there was no "proof".  
Duh.  Chemicals  aren't allergens; they are substances that interfere  
with normal  chemistry/hormonal balance of the body.  No, the immune  
system  does not make antibodies to them (as far as I know).  It's bad  
enough to suffer from these conditions, but to be completely  
invalidated at the same time is hurtful and destructive to a person  
trying to cope and heal.

Now it's electrosensitivity.  I have  been suicidally depressed at  
different times from all of these  conditions.  When I become  
depressed, I'm aware that it is  caused by the conditions, i.e. that my  
brain chemicals and hormones  are being disrupted and thrown out of  
balance, but knowing that  doesn't keep me from experiencing the  
depression.  I've gone to  bed more than once over the past 23 years,  
praying I won't wake up  because I'm so worn down from the struggles  
and the daily losses. I  suffer every day, as does everyone else who  
has these  illnesses.  It's a testament to everyone's courage to have  
ES  and these other "invisible" conditions, and still keep going.

I  understand that Multiple Sclerosis was thought to be an hysterical  
condition when it first appeared (after dentists started placing  
mercury amalgams), and it was many years before it became  
"legitimized".  The problem with Western medicine is that if  they  
don't know what causes something, then they deny it  exists.  It  
appears they think there are a few of us engaged in  a group hypnosis,  
i.e. somehow a few people from all over the world  magically decide to  
have the same specific symptoms, but we're all  making it up.

My heart goes out to that young man and to his family,  and to everyone  
who is suffering.  Thank God for the internet,  this group and others,  
that allow us to connect with each other for  support, encouragement,  
and the sharing of information that helps us  find help and healing.

Esther

On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:44 AM,  Stephanie Smith wrote:

> This is desperately desperately sad - I  hope that his death is not  
> dismissed by officialdom as due to  some "fault" on his part that he  
> was somehow lacking in being  unable to cope with electrosensitivity  
> and being  electrosensitive, although sadly I fear that this will  
> likely  be the case. Things must have been unbearable for him for him  
>  to do this even though he had family support and help and  
>  understanding. There are many of us i would imagine who don't have  
> that.
>
> I would also take issue with the lazy  journalism in the article  
> about the absence of a biomarker - I  could be wrong but I read  
> something online recently about some  doctor in Italy maybe? who was  
> able to ascertain changes in the  body which did correspond to  
>  electrosensitivity.
>
> May Michael maybe now find the peace that  he was denied during his  
> life and my sympathies are with his  parents and family.
>
> Steph
>
>  



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