Electromagnetic rodent repellers

Hi there

Thanks to you all for ideas/info - very interesting and I will look
into them - also very interested to hear of similar experiences -
this is one of the most serious reactions I've had to a household
type EMF so suspect there is something particularly aggravating about
it which would make sense if its trying to drive mice (tough
customers) out.
Also apologies for opening up a can of worms re the abusive e-mails.

many thanks
Joyce



--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:
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> If you can't get the neighbor to unplug them, at least when you're
home,this
> is one case where a Stetzer filter *might* help. Plug them in
> as close to your electric panel as possible. You'll want it on the
same problem. and then
> > send a pulsing emf around the house which then drives mice/rats
etc
> > away. My neigbour has one (we are semi-detatched) and I have been
> > experiencing bad symptoms - any ideas about how to shield against
them
> > would be much appreciated?
> >
> >  
> >
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> this is one of the most serious reactions I've had to a household
> type EMF so suspect there is something particularly aggravating about
> it which would make sense if its trying to drive mice (tough
> customers) out.

Yes, the funny thing about those devices is that the instructions
claim that the frequencies used will have NO effect on people.
Obviously that is not true for 100% of the population.

Marc

I have had mixed results with orgone pulsers.

I own an small 15hz succor punch, and it radiates some subtle smooth
nice vibes that are even much stronger when I use it at other house
that is cleaner from EMFs. So the more EMF the less effect. And
although it works, in heavy EMF loaded places its effect is small.

I have this hunch that maybe the problem with some orgone pulsers is
due to the "curing" process of the orgonite. As the orgonite's resin
from the orgonite dries up it catches the exact "vibes shooting
picture" from the environment where it is dried up. Some crafters
intentionally dry up their orgonite pulsers in an environment
saturated by some great vibes, some others maybe not.  

you can read about this phenomena at jon logan orgonite web page.
Very nice explanations of orgonite FREE. I happen to not have
anything to do with him. I bought my unit from a folk in Mexico.  

Or maybe they are badly designed. But I have tried this nice one I
own. Or maybe is a detox reaction.

Sometime a bought a candle at a store that unintentionally dried their
candles near power electric lines and when I light up that candle at
my home the vibes of the power lines where reproduced while the
candles was on. That candle store eventually went broke by the way.

Some other time my succor punch stirred negatively some hartman lines
while I was doing a land cleansing, but that effect reversed to a good
influence after the hartman lines where adjusted. That meaning that
maybe orgone pulsers stir some noxious earth energies.

Fla

Marc,  Hats off to you for cleansing our group from people with ulterior motives.  I read your personal history and wonder if you could tell me where to find seasilver and NDF, or some other mercury chelator.  I asked for it at my local health food store and got the usual deer-in-the-headlights stare.  At least I learned how to pronounce chelator correctly.
Mike in Phoenix.

--- On Sun, 2/8/09, resergence <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: resergence <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Electromagnetic rodent repellers
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 10:46 AM






In my experience none of those things that helped you has helped me.

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> > Hey marc martin tell me have you ever found anything that helps
with
> > extreme sensitivity and if so what is it. Since this is a group
> > looking for solutions can you tell me if you have ever found any
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> I read your personal history and wonder if you could
> tell me where to find seasilver

Seasilver has had a rather sordid history, with the FDA
temporarily shutting them down and the FCC pursuing them
for making medical claims (although they mostly just
printed customer testimonials). I still maintain that
it was a good product, although perhaps more expensive
than it was worth (MLM product are like that). The
product has been reformulated a bit and renamed to
SeaAloe:

http://www.myseaaloe.com/

NDF is a chlorella/cilantro mix which is practically
the only metal chelator that actually helps my
sensitivity, but only at very precise doses (not
too much, not too little). It can be found at:
http://www.bioraynaturaldetox.com/products.cfm

There is also new metal chelator on the market
called OSR (Oxidative Stress Relief) that has
generated a lot of excitement, but so far it's
too soon to tell if all this excitement is
justified. I do have a bottle of this now
(very expensive) and have been experimenting
with it, but so far it just seems to make my ES
worse. But again, that may be a case of
my taking too much -- with heavy metal
chelators, dosage can make the difference
between improving and getting worse.

Marc

marc... how do you know all this stuff ?.. thanks for all your input and help, you are most appreciated !

 
Ada

--- On Wed, 11/2/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] seasilver / NDF
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 5:49 AM






> I read your personal history and wonder if you could
> tell me where to find seasilver

Seasilver has had a rather sordid history, with the FDA
temporarily shutting them down and the FCC pursuing them
for making medical claims (although they mostly just
printed customer testimonials) . I still maintain that
it was a good product, although perhaps more expensive
than it was worth (MLM product are like that). The
product has been reformulated a bit and renamed to
SeaAloe:

http://www.myseaalo e.com/

NDF is a chlorella/cilantro mix which is practically
the only metal chelator that actually helps my
sensitivity, but only at very precise doses (not
too much, not too little). It can be found at:
http://www.biorayna turaldetox. com/products. cfm

There is also new metal chelator on the market
called OSR (Oxidative Stress Relief) that has
generated a lot of excitement, but so far it's
too soon to tell if all this excitement is
justified. I do have a bottle of this now
(very expensive) and have been experimenting
with it, but so far it just seems to make my ES
worse. But again, that may be a case of
my taking too much -- with heavy metal
chelators, dosage can make the difference
between improving and getting worse.

Marc

















     

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> marc... how do you know all this stuff ?

How do I know *what* stuff? Seasilver and NDF are both
products that I have years of experience with, so I do
know a thing or two about them... :-)

OSR on the other hand is new, but it is being followed
on two YahooGroups I subscribe to:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/metalslist/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/oxidativestressrelief/

Marc

Previously I wrote:
> NDF is a chlorella/cilantro mix which is practically
> the only metal chelator that actually helps my
> sensitivity

I've just been doing some experimenting with chlorella
tablets, and I see that these are also helping my
ES (plus chlorella is a heavy metal chelator).

This is surprising to me, as I tried chlorella years
and years ago, and found it made my ES worse. However,
I suspect this is due to me being much better than
I was years ago, and also I'm a bit smarter on
finding the right brand, dosage, and frequency
of taking it.

The chlorella I'm using now are 200mg tablets from
BioPure (which I suspect is a good brand, as it
is promoted by famous mercury doctor Dr. Klinghardt).
I'm taking about 4 tablets every 3 hours while
using the computer. I do get a slight headache
after taking it, and will try it some more to
see if my tolerance for it degrades or improves.

I've seen others here say that chlorella helps
their ES, so I guess this shouldn't be too
surprising. I have been a bit fearful of
taking it after previous bad experiences, though.


Marc

Interesting post Marc, thank you.

I hope this doesn't hijack the thread, but it reminded me to tell you
that I tried Modifilan (brown seaweed extract) - you had said that it
made you feel agitated, I believe.  

Anyway, I went through one bottle, working my way up to the maximum
dosage. It may have helped a bit, but it was difficult to say. I
can't say I felt any more agitated by it than without. I think it's
something that should be tried (excepting situations in which it gives
acute irritation) for more than, say, a month at a time. I might give
it another go sometime in the future.

Thanks for the positive post on chlorella. Anyone else?

Cheers,

R.



--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> I hope this doesn't hijack the thread, but it reminded me to tell you
> that I tried Modifilan (brown seaweed extract) - you had said that it
> made you feel agitated, I believe.

Yes, my reaction to Modifilan was rather extreme -- one might even
catagorize it as some kind of "allergic" reaction.

Marc

I used to use Sun Chlorella but stopped because I just couldn't afford it
anymore. I wonder if BioPure is less expensive.
I got a headache while at first using chlorella. I think it was a detox
symptom.
Today I got my Samento I ordered in the mail, along with another bottle of
PCA-RX. Any day now I should be getting the CellFood in the mail too. I hope
I'm not doing too much too soon. I feel a little metallic, and with a headache
today, but I'm desperate to get well.
Marc are you just taking the chlorella every few hours while you're in front
of the computer?
Amy

No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the congress is in
session.

Mark Twain


In a message dated 2/12/2009 4:37:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Previously I wrote:
> NDF is a chlorella/cilantro mix which is practically
> the only metal chelator that actually helps my
> sensitivity

I've just been doing some experimenting with chlorella
tablets, and I see that these are also helping my
ES (plus chlorella is a heavy metal chelator).

This is surprising to me, as I tried chlorella years
and years ago, and found it made my ES worse. However,
I suspect this is due to me being much better than
I was years ago, and also I'm a bit smarter on
finding the right brand, dosage, and frequency
of taking it.

The chlorella I'm using now are 200mg tablets from
BioPure (which I suspect is a good brand, as it
is promoted by famous mercury doctor Dr. Klinghardt).
I'm taking about 4 tablets every 3 hours while
using the computer. I do get a slight headache
after taking it, and will try it some more to
see if my tolerance for it degrades or improves.

I've seen others here say that chlorella helps
their ES, so I guess this shouldn't be too
surprising. I have been a bit fearful of
taking it after previous bad experiences, though.

Marc





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> Marc are you just taking the chlorella every few hours while you're in
> front of the computer?

Well, yesterday I tried to take the chlorella every 3 hours throughout
the day, but by the end of the day I felt like I had overdone it (although
I was fine the next morning). So today I'm limiting my intake to work
hours. So in other words, I'm still figuring this out... :-)

Also, not too long ago I mentioned I was increasing my Vitamin D3
intake. That was a big mistake -- it made my skin burning symptoms
around the computer much worse. I've now stopped taking the Vitamin
D3 supplement altogether (although chlorella contains some natural
Vitamin D)

Marc