Most negative ion generators do produce *dirty air*, which frequencies go at a distance of 5 metres.
It does not matter if the have a fan or not. I also have tested special lamps, that produce negative ions. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earthing On November 30, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote: > i have for many years used negative ion generators... > preferably ones with no moving parts. Patricia, are there particular models of negative ion generators that you've found helpful? Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Sure.
It depends on the *ground* you are *earthing*. Nowadays many groundings contain *dirty power* and *dirty air*. Frequencies from 5kHz up to 30MHz. And with earthing, you may pick them up. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: [eSens] Has anyone gotten WORSE from earthing products? I just heard of a ES person who FIRST benefited from them but then got even more sensitive than before.. sounds very alarming. Has anyone here had that kind of experiences? --- In [hidden email], "jpnordica" <jpnordica@...> wrote: > > Like this one for example > > http://www.navoti-shop.com/protection-ondes-electromagnetiques-electrosmog-earthing/154-kit-tapis-earthing-universel.html > > That video looks pretty convincing but... > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Is dirty air separate from emf? That unit I have also and it gives no reading at all on my gaussmeter.
What would you suggest for cleaning air inside an apartment? Steve --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Most negative ion generators do produce *dirty air*, which frequencies go at a distance of 5 metres. > > It does not matter if the have a fan or not. > I also have tested special lamps, that produce negative ions. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marc Martin > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earthing > > > On November 30, Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote: > > i have for many years used negative ion generators... > > preferably ones with no moving parts. > > Patricia, are there particular models of negative ion > generators that you've found helpful? > > Marc > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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so can you be sure that your grounding is clean?
--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Sure. > > It depends on the *ground* you are *earthing*. > > Nowadays many groundings contain *dirty power* and *dirty air*. > Frequencies from 5kHz up to 30MHz. > > And with earthing, you may pick them up. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jpnordica > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:57 PM > Subject: [eSens] Has anyone gotten WORSE from earthing products? > > > I just heard of a ES person who FIRST benefited from them but then got even more sensitive than before.. sounds very alarming. Has anyone here had that kind of experiences? > > --- In [hidden email], "jpnordica" <jpnordica@> wrote: > > > > Like this one for example > > > > http://www.navoti-shop.com/protection-ondes-electromagnetiques-electrosmog-earthing/154-kit-tapis-earthing-universel.html > > > > That video looks pretty convincing but... > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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In the midst of a built up area I doubt very much if you could get a clean
earth ie one way traffic only way is out ! If you decide to earth especially when you are static say in bed, then I would sugesst that you run an analysis of the earth over a period of a week and log every minute of the frequency status of the earth. puk In a message dated 01/12/2012 21:23:12 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: so can you be sure that your grounding is clean? --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Sure. > > It depends on the *ground* you are *earthing*. > > Nowadays many groundings contain *dirty power* and *dirty air*. > Frequencies from 5kHz up to 30MHz. > > And with earthing, you may pick them up. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jpnordica > To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:57 PM > Subject: [eSens] Has anyone gotten WORSE from earthing products? > > > I just heard of a ES person who FIRST benefited from them but then got that kind of experiences? > > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "jpnordica" <jpnordica@> wrote: > > > > Like this one for example > > > > _http://www.navoti-shop.com/protection-ondes-electromagnetiques-electrosmog-earthing/154-kit-tapis-earthing-universel.html_ (http://www.navoti-shop.com/protection-ondes-electromagnetiques-electrosmog-earthing/154-kit-tapis-e arthing-universel.html) > > > > That video looks pretty convincing but... > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I know of and I sell a product which addresses dirty energy including EMF; which was developed during 10 year research at the University of Irvine by Prof Jones, a radiologist. He is very intense about making the unseen forces visible. Not only did he researche with his modern equipment the meridian system and made the responsibility of accupoints visible, he researched also the detrimental impact of dirty energy on human cells.
During 10 years he and Dr. Kronn, with help of subtle Energy technology (CHI) developed 'Clean Sweep', which in seconds cleanses the dirty energy. It is used widely in the healing profession and is also researched using the HRV. One well known doctor who helps many ES's is doctor Dr. Jeffrey Marrongelle, his research with the 'Clean Sweep' shows the calming and rejuvenating impact onto the human energy and nervous system, only seconds after the air/space is cleaned of dirty energy. That means in the absence of dirty energy the body can rejuvenate and get healthy, repairing the damaging effects of dirty energy. 'Clean Sweep' can be purchased on Amazon and www.manaste.com (this is not an advertisement campaign, just trying to help, where help is needed with an honest product). |
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