Earth tether mattress pad

>
> For measuring the body voltage, one does NOT measure between two body parts, but against ground.
> And the persoen should not be grounded, but potential free.
>
> Otherwise you are measuring *house numbers*.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen_vandevijvere
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:17 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
>
>
> Thanks David, Charles,...
>
> I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
>
> I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
>
> And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom,it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
>
> But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
>
> It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
>
> If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
>
> With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
>
> The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
>
> David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >  
> >
> > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well forme.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >  
> >
> > David
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > charles
> > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> >
> > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > market.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> >
> > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > -emotional stress
> > -physical stress
> >
> > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > or something ;-)
> >
> > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working onthat
> > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> >
> > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers the body
> > voltage.
> >
> > I think what helps:
> > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > -massages
> > -carbon fabrics
> > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, she has
> > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > and sell together with her book)
> > -relax ;-)
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > <charles@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > >
> > > I have extended that procedure.
> > >
> > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > voltage.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marjij
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen wrote:
> > >
> > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > >
> > >
> > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > >
> > > Marji
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
> For measuring the body voltage, one does NOT measure between two body parts, but against ground.
> And the persoen should not be grounded, but potential free.
>
> Otherwise you are measuring *house numbers*.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen_vandevijvere
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:17 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
>
>
> Thanks David, Charles,...
>
> I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
>
> I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
>
> And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
>
> But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
>
> It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
>
> If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
>
> With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
>
> The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
>
> David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > charles
> > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> >
> > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > market.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> >
> > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > -emotional stress
> > -physical stress
> >
> > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > or something ;-)
> >
> > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> >
> > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers the body
> > voltage.
> >
> > I think what helps:
> > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > -massages
> > -carbon fabrics
> > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, she has
> > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > and sell together with her book)
> > -relax ;-)
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > <charles@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > >
> > > I have extended that procedure.
> > >
> > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > voltage.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marjij
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen wrote:
> > >
> > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > >
> > >
> > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > >
> > > Marji
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> There is always a difference between your left and right hand.
>
> And your mentioning of +/- 30 mV is just *house numbering* and nonsense if the measuring is not done potantial free.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen_vandevijvere
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:47 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
>
>
> Charles, well yes, sorry: I may have misphrased in my previous messageswhat I'm looking for! ;-)
>
> What I mean is not measuring "body voltage", but measuring "how your body copes with electricity between 2 body parts".
>
> If my central nerve system therapist measures 100 mV between your left and right hand it showes that your body isn't offering much resistance... Avalue other than +/- 30 mV is directly linked to a malfunctioning central nerve system and that will affect many things of course and also ES...
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >
> > For measuring the body voltage, one does NOT measure between two bodyparts, but against ground.
> > And the persoen should not be grounded, but potential free.
> >
> > Otherwise you are measuring *house numbers*.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:17 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> >
> > Thanks David, Charles,...
> >
> > I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
> >
> > I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
> >
> > And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
> >
> > But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
> >
> > It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
> >
> > If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
> >
> > With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
> >
> > The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
> >
> > David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really wellfor me.
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > > charles
> > > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> > >
> > > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > > market.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> > >
> > > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > > -emotional stress
> > > -physical stress
> > >
> > > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > > or something ;-)
> > >
> > > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> > >
> > > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers the body
> > > voltage.
> > >
> > > I think what helps:
> > > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > > -massages
> > > -carbon fabrics
> > > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, she has
> > > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > > and sell together with her book)
> > > -relax ;-)
> > >
> > > Stephen.
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > > <charles@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > > >
> > > > I have extended that procedure.
> > > >
> > > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > > voltage.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > > checked by Norton
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Marjij
> > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stephen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > > >
> > > > Marji
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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>

>
> Thanks David, Charles,...
>
> I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
>
> I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
>
> And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
>
> But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
>
> It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
>
> If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
>
> With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
>
> The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 yearsof testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I rememberher saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
>
> David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the ACbetween two body parts...?
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >  
> >
> > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >  
> >
> > David
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > charles
> > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> >
> > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > market.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> >
> > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > -emotional stress
> > -physical stress
> >
> > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > or something ;-)
> >
> > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> >
> > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers thebody
> > voltage.
> >
> > I think what helps:
> > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > -massages
> > -carbon fabrics
> > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, she has
> > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > and sell together with her book)
> > -relax ;-)
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > <charles@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > >
> > > I have extended that procedure.
> > >
> > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > voltage.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marjij
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen wrote:
> > >
> > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > >
> > >
> > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > >
> > > Marji
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

>
> Thanks David, Charles,...
>
> I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
>
> I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
>
> And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
>
> But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
>
> It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
>
> If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
>
> With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
>
> The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
>
> David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > charles
> > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> >
> > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > market.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> >
> > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> >
> > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > -emotional stress
> > -physical stress
> >
> > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > or something ;-)
> >
> > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> >
> > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers the body
> > voltage.
> >
> > I think what helps:
> > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > -massages
> > -carbon fabrics
> > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, she has
> > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > and sell together with her book)
> > -relax ;-)
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > <charles@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > >
> > > I have extended that procedure.
> > >
> > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > voltage.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marjij
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen wrote:
> > >
> > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > >
> > >
> > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > >
> > > Marji
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

>
> No, no, no.
>
> Many years ago I have written about those machines on my website, under Aura's.
> I can't help when you did not read that.
> I have written quite a lot, but if people do not read, I can't help.
> These Galvanic Skin Response machines do NOT measure the skin resistance,but the time difference between the left and richt parts of the brain.
> They are the source for the famous lie-detector. As I have explainded.
>
> See also: http://freesolo.homepage.dk/themeter.htm
>
> I wish you luck with this Biofeedback stuff.
> But I can guarantee you, your EHS will not be cured that way.
>
> With all your ideas and stuff, you are far away from curing.
>
> But now I quit.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen_vandevijvere
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:23 PM
> Subject: [eSens] SKIN RESISTANCE or BIOFEEDBACK METER (was Re: Earth tether mattress pad)
>
>
> Charles and others, good news, I have found how the meter I'm looking for is actually called!!!
>
> SKIN RESISTANCE METER or
>
> GALVANIC SKIN RESPONSE METER or
>
> BIOFEEDBACK METER
>
>
> So it all comes down to this:
>
> THERE IS A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN THE SKIN RESISTANCE AND THE FUNCTIONING OF THE CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM
>
> If you measure 25-30 micro amps, that seems the most natural state of the central nerve system, especially if you would measure more than 50 it shows your central nerve system is malfunctioning at that particular moment.
>
> (in previous messages I mentioned millivolts instead of micro amps, sorry for that guys!)
>
> A lot of things influence the central nerve system:
>    
> -intolerances/allergies (emf/food/...)
> -physical stress (hard labour for instance)
> -emotional stress (panick attacks are bad, meditation is good)
>
> On the influence of your thoughts slash emotional stress slash brain waves on the central nerve system, there is one incredibly interesting page:
> http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1982/emay82/yogbio.shtml
>
> ...
> The ESR (electric skin resistance) meter measures changes in the autonomic nervous system from arousal, described as the 'fight or flight' response, to relaxation, described as the relaxation response. It should be understood that the relaxation response is not a reduction in activity in the nervous system; rather it is an increase in activity in the parasympathetic nervous system, just as arousal is an increase in activity in the sympatheticnervous system. Our 'normal' waking state can be considered as halfway between the extremes of arousal and relaxation.
> ...
> The scale is graduated from 0 to 50 micro amps, indicating the current flowing during the measurement of skin resistance. Arousal is indicated by more current (decreased skin resistance), relaxation by less (increased skin resistance). We can conceptualize this process by imagining that as we withdraw our awareness more and more from the external environment, the body's response is to create a protective 'shield' of the skin layers by increasing 'resistance' to outside interference. The middle of the scale (25 microamps) is used as the starting point for tests of relaxation and arousal. In these tests, the needle of the ESR meter moves to either the right (arousal) or the left (relaxation), indicating the autonomic response. Although this description of the meter and its scales has been simplified, it is sufficient for an understanding of the processes described in this article.
> ...
>
> Als interesting link on the meter and Biofeedback:
> http://www.trans4mind.com/metercourse/GSR_1.html
>
>
> I just should do BIOFEEDBACK-THERAPY, I remember e-mailing with a DutchES-er who had become much better thanks to biofeedback...
>
> I think if you do biofeedback therapy you get a gsr-meter after sessionone, so the I will be able to check how much my central nerve system is affected by stuff like:
>
> -my carbon t-shirt
> -showering seperately feet + head
> -meditation
> -food
> -grounding bed/...
> -emf
> -Qlink, Bioprotect, Tachyon,...
>
> I'm really excited about this, although I shouldn't get too carried away, that's not good for... ;-)
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks David, Charles,...
> >
> > I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
> >
> > I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
> >
> > And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/longrun.
> >
> > But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OFYOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
> >
> > It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts isdirectly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
> >
> > If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and righthand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your centralnerve system is not functioning 100%.
> >
> > With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
> >
> > The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
> >
> > David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > > charles
> > > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> > >
> > > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available onthe
> > > market.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> > >
> > > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > > -emotional stress
> > > -physical stress
> > >
> > > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors.Although
> > > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > > or something ;-)
> > >
> > > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> > >
> > > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowersthe body
> > > voltage.
> > >
> > > I think what helps:
> > > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > > -massages
> > > -carbon fabrics
> > > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, shehas
> > > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > > and sell together with her book)
> > > -relax ;-)
> > >
> > > Stephen.
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > > <charles@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > > >
> > > > I have extended that procedure.
> > > >
> > > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > > voltage.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > > checked by Norton
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Marjij
> > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stephen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > > >
> > > > Marji
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> No, no, no.
>
> Many years ago I have written about those machines on my website, under Aura's.
> I can't help when you did not read that.
> I have written quite a lot, but if people do not read, I can't help.
> These Galvanic Skin Response machines do NOT measure the skin resistance, but the time difference between the left and richt parts of the brain.
> They are the source for the famous lie-detector. As I have explainded.
>
> See also: http://freesolo.homepage.dk/themeter.htm
>
> I wish you luck with this Biofeedback stuff.
> But I can guarantee you, your EHS will not be cured that way.
>
> With all your ideas and stuff, you are far away from curing.
>
> But now I quit.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen_vandevijvere
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:23 PM
> Subject: [eSens] SKIN RESISTANCE or BIOFEEDBACK METER (was Re: Earth tether mattress pad)
>
>
> Charles and others, good news, I have found how the meter I'm looking for is actually called!!!
>
> SKIN RESISTANCE METER or
>
> GALVANIC SKIN RESPONSE METER or
>
> BIOFEEDBACK METER
>
>
> So it all comes down to this:
>
> THERE IS A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN THE SKIN RESISTANCE AND THE FUNCTIONING OF THE CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM
>
> If you measure 25-30 micro amps, that seems the most natural state of the central nerve system, especially if you would measure more than 50 it shows your central nerve system is malfunctioning at that particular moment.
>
> (in previous messages I mentioned millivolts instead of micro amps, sorry for that guys!)
>
> A lot of things influence the central nerve system:
>
> -intolerances/allergies (emf/food/...)
> -physical stress (hard labour for instance)
> -emotional stress (panick attacks are bad, meditation is good)
>
> On the influence of your thoughts slash emotional stress slash brain waves on the central nerve system, there is one incredibly interesting page:
> http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1982/emay82/yogbio.shtml
>
> ...
> The ESR (electric skin resistance) meter measures changes in the autonomic nervous system from arousal, described as the 'fight or flight' response, to relaxation, described as the relaxation response. It should be understood that the relaxation response is not a reduction in activity in the nervous system; rather it is an increase in activity in the parasympathetic nervous system, just as arousal is an increase in activity in the sympathetic nervous system. Our 'normal' waking state can be considered as halfway between the extremes of arousal and relaxation.
> ...
> The scale is graduated from 0 to 50 micro amps, indicating the current flowing during the measurement of skin resistance. Arousal is indicated by more current (decreased skin resistance), relaxation by less (increased skin resistance). We can conceptualize this process by imagining that as we withdraw our awareness more and more from the external environment, the body's response is to create a protective 'shield' of the skin layers by increasing 'resistance' to outside interference. The middle of the scale (25 micro amps) is used as the starting point for tests of relaxation and arousal. In these tests, the needle of the ESR meter moves to either the right (arousal) or the left (relaxation), indicating the autonomic response. Although this description of the meter and its scales has been simplified, it is sufficient for an understanding of the processes described in this article.
> ...
>
> Als interesting link on the meter and Biofeedback:
> http://www.trans4mind.com/metercourse/GSR_1.html
>
>
> I just should do BIOFEEDBACK-THERAPY, I remember e-mailing with a Dutch ES-er who had become much better thanks to biofeedback...
>
> I think if you do biofeedback therapy you get a gsr-meter after session one, so the I will be able to check how much my central nerve system is affected by stuff like:
>
> -my carbon t-shirt
> -showering seperately feet + head
> -meditation
> -food
> -grounding bed/...
> -emf
> -Qlink, Bioprotect, Tachyon,...
>
> I'm really excited about this, although I shouldn't get too carried away, that's not good for... ;-)
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks David, Charles,...
> >
> > I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
> >
> > I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meter checks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
> >
> > And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
> >
> > But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
> >
> > It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
> >
> > If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
> >
> > With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
> >
> > The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the same way, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
> >
> > David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > > charles
> > > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> > >
> > > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > > market.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > >
> > > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> > >
> > > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > > -emotional stress
> > > -physical stress
> > >
> > > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > > or something ;-)
> > >
> > > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> > >
> > > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers the body
> > > voltage.
> > >
> > > I think what helps:
> > > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > > -massages
> > > -carbon fabrics
> > > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this, she has
> > > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > > and sell together with her book)
> > > -relax ;-)
> > >
> > > Stephen.
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "charles"
> > > <charles@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > > >
> > > > I have extended that procedure.
> > > >
> > > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > > voltage.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > > checked by Norton
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Marjij
> > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stephen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > > >
> > > > Marji
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> The repair of the damaged immune system is far more important than BioFeedback.
>
> Far more.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen_vandevijvere
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:09 PM
> Subject: [eSens] SKIN RESISTANCE or BIOFEEDBACK METER (was Re: Earth tether mattress pad)
>
>
> Charles, thanks a lot for the feedback! I'm learning here ;-)
>
> Yes that page you've sent + the aura-page on your site is very interesting:
> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html
>
> (I had read that page a couple of months ago, but my 2 brain cells seemed to have forgotten some of it, sorry!)
>
> So a Skin Resistance meter (ESR) is sth else than Galvanic Skin Response (GSR) meter...
>
> ESR measures the central nerve system and GSR the time difference between right and left part of the brain...
>
> ESR and GSR meters are both biofeedback-tools.
>
>
> You don't agree, but I think that if I have a better view of when my ESR or central nerve system is best I do think it will aid to get me better. And if it's not, I think it's very interesting to learn about it anyway! ;-)
>
> If the central nerve system is malfunctioning there's not much working well, for instance the ability to detox...
>
> Stephen.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >
> > No, no, no.
> >
> > Many years ago I have written about those machines on my website, under Aura's.
> > I can't help when you did not read that.
> > I have written quite a lot, but if people do not read, I can't help.
> > These Galvanic Skin Response machines do NOT measure the skin resistance, but the time difference between the left and richt parts of the brain.
> > They are the source for the famous lie-detector. As I have explainded.
> >
> > See also: http://freesolo.homepage.dk/themeter.htm
> >
> > I wish you luck with this Biofeedback stuff.
> > But I can guarantee you, your EHS will not be cured that way.
> >
> > With all your ideas and stuff, you are far away from curing.
> >
> > But now I quit.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:23 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] SKIN RESISTANCE or BIOFEEDBACK METER (was Re: Earth tether mattress pad)
> >
> >
> > Charles and others, good news, I have found how the meter I'm looking for is actually called!!!
> >
> > SKIN RESISTANCE METER or
> >
> > GALVANIC SKIN RESPONSE METER or
> >
> > BIOFEEDBACK METER
> >
> >
> > So it all comes down to this:
> >
> > THERE IS A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN THE SKIN RESISTANCE AND THE FUNCTIONING OF THE CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM
> >
> > If you measure 25-30 micro amps, that seems the most natural state of the central nerve system, especially if you would measure more than 50 it shows your central nerve system is malfunctioning at that particular moment.
> >
> > (in previous messages I mentioned millivolts instead of micro amps,sorry for that guys!)
> >
> > A lot of things influence the central nerve system:
> >    
> > -intolerances/allergies (emf/food/...)
> > -physical stress (hard labour for instance)
> > -emotional stress (panick attacks are bad, meditation is good)
> >
> > On the influence of your thoughts slash emotional stress slash brain waves on the central nerve system, there is one incredibly interesting page:
> > http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1982/emay82/yogbio.shtml
> >
> > ...
> > The ESR (electric skin resistance) meter measures changes in the autonomic nervous system from arousal, described as the 'fight or flight' response, to relaxation, described as the relaxation response. It should be understood that the relaxation response is not a reduction in activity in thenervous system; rather it is an increase in activity in the parasympathetic nervous system, just as arousal is an increase in activity in the sympathetic nervous system. Our 'normal' waking state can be considered as halfwaybetween the extremes of arousal and relaxation.
> > ...
> > The scale is graduated from 0 to 50 micro amps, indicating the current flowing during the measurement of skin resistance. Arousal is indicatedby more current (decreased skin resistance), relaxation by less (increasedskin resistance). We can conceptualize this process by imagining that as we withdraw our awareness more and more from the external environment, the body's response is to create a protective 'shield' of the skin layers by increasing 'resistance' to outside interference. The middle of the scale (25 micro amps) is used as the starting point for tests of relaxation and arousal. In these tests, the needle of the ESR meter moves to either the right (arousal) or the left (relaxation), indicating the autonomic response. Although this description of the meter and its scales has been simplified, it is sufficient for an understanding of the processes described in this article.
> > ...
> >
> > Als interesting link on the meter and Biofeedback:
> > http://www.trans4mind.com/metercourse/GSR_1.html
> >
> >
> > I just should do BIOFEEDBACK-THERAPY, I remember e-mailing with a Dutch ES-er who had become much better thanks to biofeedback...
> >
> > I think if you do biofeedback therapy you get a gsr-meter after session one, so the I will be able to check how much my central nerve system is affected by stuff like:
> >
> > -my carbon t-shirt
> > -showering seperately feet + head
> > -meditation
> > -food
> > -grounding bed/...
> > -emf
> > -Qlink, Bioprotect, Tachyon,...
> >
> > I'm really excited about this, although I shouldn't get too carriedaway, that's not good for... ;-)
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks David, Charles,...
> > >
> > > I'm not sure but there may be a misunderstanding on what I'm looking for (I may have misphrased it).
> > >
> > > I have a Biovoltmeter myself for a couple of years and that meterchecks how much emf there is emitted using your body as an antenna. IT MEASURES THE EMF IN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.
> > >
> > > And for instance if you measure a lot, sth like 200 mV in your bedroom, it will have a bad impact on your central nerve system in the short/long run.
> > >
> > > But what I'm looking for now, is a meter that checks THE SITUATION OF YOUR CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
> > >
> > > It seems that the resistance to electricity between two body parts is directly linked with how well your central nerve system is functioning.
> > >
> > > If you measure the electricity between two body parts (left and right hand for instance), you should measure sth like 30 mV. If not your central nerve system is not functioning 100%.
> > >
> > > With the Dutch therapist (Agnes van Enkhuizen) my score was more than 100 mV before her therapy, half an hour later, after her therapy my score was much better, something like 50 mV.
> > >
> > > The meter she uses is one she has kinda engineered herself after 20 years of testing and experience. That meter isn't commercialized yet. I remember her saying other meters can test the central nerve system the sameway, but she had the best and most trustworthy results with her meter.
> > >
> > > David, it's not clear to me whether the meter you have can measure the AC between two body parts...?
> > >
> > > Stephen.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "David Clover" <davidc6162@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > > > charles
> > > > Sent: 16 June 2010 21:39
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > No, only elektrosmog heightens the body voltage.
> > > > But elektrosmog is a very large family.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know Agnes van Enkhuizen, but those meters are available on the
> > > > market.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > > checked by Norton
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: stephen_vandevijvere
> > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:21 PM
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > > >
> > > > Charles, yes a lot of things seem to heighten the body voltage:
> > > >
> > > > -intolerances/allergies to emf/food/chemicals
> > > > -emotional stress
> > > > -physical stress
> > > >
> > > > There are always things I will be able to improve on these factors. Although
> > > > to eliminate all of them I probably would have to live in the 19th century
> > > > or something ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Unless I find some anti-emf thingie I can live with. Still working on that
> > > > and experimenting with Tachyon, Qlink, Bioprotect, Benzolite,...
> > > >
> > > > But it would be great if I could also do stuff that directly lowers the body
> > > > voltage.
> > > >
> > > > I think what helps:
> > > > -grounding (yourself, bed, no shoes,...)
> > > > -massages
> > > > -carbon fabrics
> > > > -therapy Agnes van Enkhuizen (she's written many books on this,she has
> > > > measured me too in the past, she has a meter that she wants to commercialize
> > > > and sell together with her book)
> > > > -relax ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Stephen.
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ,"charles"
> > > > <charles@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That is done with a special meter.
> > > > > According to the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik, SBM2008.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have extended that procedure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Butmeasuring the body voltage is measuring the end result.
> > > > > First one has to eliminate all that what is causing the higher body
> > > > voltage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > Charles Claessens
> > > > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > > > checked by Norton
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Marjij
> > > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:52 PM
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Earth tether mattress pad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Most probably one of my main problems is a body voltage that's too high.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My question: How does one go about measuring their body's voltage?
> > > > >
> > > > > Marji
> > > > >
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> Thanks for your response. What you said about the earthing mat shielding
> below, but amplifying the electric fields above is interesting. Does
> this
> mean that you should have an earthing mat on top of you too?
>
> Or do you have any other suggestions please?
>
> David
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> That meter looks like it should work fine for Body Voltage.
> But don't believe the instructions about the shielding in the bed and the
> diagram that accompanies it:
>
> "Another way to tackle the problem of the electrically polluted bedroom is
> to place an earthed protective under sheet under the mattress. Such a
> sheet
> is of particular value because it helps to shield the sleeper from
> electric
> fields wherever they come from - indoors or out."
>
> Assuming the "earthed protective" is highly conductive, it will shield
> from
> E-field sources BELOW the sheet only. It will AMPLIFY the electric field
> from sources ABOVE the sheet.
>
> Emil
>
>> I've got this Body Voltage Meter set-up.. It's worked really well for me.
>> http://www.royriggs.co.uk/Roy/For_Sale.html
>> David
>