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ES with respect to parenthood

Emil at Less EMF Inc
I know this question may seem far out, but I am wondering how many people
on the list have children?


In speaking with the many clients who contact us because of their
electrical sensitivity (or similar symptoms), we notice a reverse
correlation between parenthood and symptoms. Your guess is as good as mine
about which is the cause and which is the effect.

Any thoughts?

Emil

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Re: ES with respect to parenthood

Marc Martin
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> I know this question may seem far out, but I am wondering how many people
> on the list have children?

Heh, heh... on a list about electrical sensitivity, *nothing* is
far out... :-)

I don't have children. If I did, I certainly would probably
spend more time outdoors, and less time in front of computer,
so perhaps would have been less likely to get ES.

Alternately, one might view this as a "life force" thing. Children
bring a lot of energy into an environment -- you can see how they
can raise the spirits of older people around them, which could
also positively effect their health. I've even heard of women
who have chronic illnesses that went into remission while they
were pregnant, and then returned after having the baby. Again,
one could see this being a "life force" thing -- having
the baby inside of her improved her health.

The devices I'm using now (the Springlife polarizers) claim
to work under the life force principal, and I certainly
can see an immediate, noticeable, and repeatable improvement
in my overall health and a reduction in my ES symptoms when
using them. Perhaps a good alternative to having children...
certainly less expensive... :-)

Marc

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Re: ES with respect to parenthood

Joyce Soos
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I have 3 kids, ages 22, 15, and 14, all girls. If I didn't have them, I would probably go crazy! I used to work before having them, and after each birth I started feeling worse physically. You all know about my having MCS about 2 years after the last child was born then the EMF arose too. All I can say is that the kids have learned a lot about living with a disabled mom, and people in general. Yes my EMF has improved since then. My children are blessings given to me from God, and I wouldn't want it any other way. True, I am not able to do a lot of things with them, but they are much more mature in society than kids their own age. They have learned to adapt to these circumstance quite well, and I even homeschool the youngest now too! I also have a hard time concentrating on her work when needed, but what is neat isthat they always boost my spirits up when needed, and that makes my day. If all this stuff had happened to me before having kids, I would not have been able to have them.
So all in all, God had planned things out perfectly for me and my family. Anyone else have kids too?

"Less EMF Inc." <[hidden email]> wrote:I know this question may seem far out, but I am wondering how many people
on the list have children?


In speaking with the many clients who contact us because of their
electrical sensitivity (or similar symptoms), we notice a reverse
correlation between parenthood and symptoms. Your guess is as good as mine
about which is the cause and which is the effect.

Any thoughts?

Emil



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Re: ES with respect to parenthood

WILLE BÖRLIN
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Emil.

I have one daughter, now grown-up.
Lived with the same woman since 34 years.
So far no problems with ES or EMF.
Have worked for 30 years in electronics, started as designer of radar
test equipment and TV / Radio transmitters.

Please let us know about your results with this inqury.


Wille Borlin
SWEDEN

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>I know this question may seem far out, but I am wondering how many people
>on the list have children?
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>In speaking with the many clients who contact us because of their
>electrical sensitivity (or similar symptoms), we notice a reverse
>correlation between parenthood and symptoms. Your guess is as good as mine
>about which is the cause and which is the effect.
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>Any thoughts?
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>Emil
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: ES with respect to parenthood

Lachlan Mudge
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Emil
I assume you are saying that you've noticed parents suffer ES less than
childless people? Or are you saying that when one becomes a parent (men and
women?), symptoms are reduced? I don't think that becoming a parent has not
had a noticeable effect on my sensitivity. I would say that all experience is
shaped by our perceptions and that parenthood changes the way one perceives
EVERYTHING. The intensity of the pregnancy/birth/parenthood experience does
make most other things seem less intese, simply in a relative sense.
Behavioural patterns (e.g. time spent in different environments) also change
and, as people on this list would know, this can have a very significant
effect. It is my suspicion that this could be the main reason for your
observations. However, as I think Marc mentioned, in women pregnancy has an
incredible effect on health. I always say that a woman's body will never work
as efficiently and amazingly as when she is pregnant. Obviously I have not had
this direct experience but I have seen it through my partner and many others.
The fact that an HIV positive woman can have an HIV free child is testimony to
this fact, in my opinion. Maybe there is something to what you say after all.
It's a mystery....

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Subject: [eSens] ES with respect to parenthood

I know this question may seem far out, but I am wondering how many people
on the list have children?


In speaking with the many clients who contact us because of their
electrical sensitivity (or similar symptoms), we notice a reverse
correlation between parenthood and symptoms. Your guess is as good as mine
about which is the cause and which is the effect.

Any thoughts?

Emil






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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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I have a son. What does 'reverse correlation' mean? That we are ES if
we have had kids or if we haven't?

Sarah

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Subject: [eSens] ES with respect to parenthood


I know this question may seem far out, but I am wondering how many
people
on the list have children?


In speaking with the many clients who contact us because of their
electrical sensitivity (or similar symptoms), we notice a reverse
correlation between parenthood and symptoms. Your guess is as good as
mine
about which is the cause and which is the effect.

Any thoughts?

Emil





 
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RE: ES with respect to parenthood

Marc Martin
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>I have a son. What does 'reverse correlation' mean? That we are ES if
>we have had kids or if we haven't?

It means that if you DON'T have kids, then you're more like to have ES than
if you DO have kids.

from the discussions here it looks like there might be some sort of
correlation between being vegetarian and being ES...

Marc

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Re: ES with respect to parenthood

Drasko Cvijovic
I have three daughters. I became ES (or just aware of it) 2 years after the
birth of my second daughter, 8 years ago. My youngest daughter is 2 now, and
I might say that my sensitivity (but also overall condition!) has improved
since her. So that would have supported Emil's finding...

But let me tell you "in privacy" one of my (numerous) hypothesis.
If we are not satisfied at "lower level", our inner being seeks satisfaction
at higher levels! (I think that children help sexual / emotional
satisfaction, which doesn't necessarily happens. Also, "lower satisfaction"
is food, absence of stress etc.)
You all probably know that mysticism is strongly connected with
deprivation?! Our spiritual energy, awaken by deprivation, seeking higher
satisfaction, starts communicating with EMFs, being mislead by them, the
same way our body is being tricked by various food poisons when we are
lacking healthy food. Healthy "spiritual" food could be beneficial
radiations from nature, not to mention true mysticism!

So in addition to my previous attempt to generalize, I would say not only
physical, but also emotional and any other deprivation (especially sexual)
could be a predisposition for ES!

*It is a pure speculation.* (Although not totally unfounded! Would there be
any interest I could reveal the whole story.)

Drasko