ES mitigation device list

Hi, everyone,

It looks like the survey idea is a go, so I'll start the list of
devices. Please reply to the group and append to this list each
device you have experience with, including:

1) Device name
2) Device description
3) Device manufacturer or vendor
4) Usage protocol
5) Details of your experience with the device
6) Result; '+' for positive result, '0' for none, or '-' for negative


<<START LIST>>

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Name: BioElectric Shield

Desc: Pendant; sterling silver w/ brass tabs; contains quartz crystals
and other precision-cut minerals carefully arranged to "stabilize
wearer's energy field"

Vend: bioelectriccompany.com

Prot: Worn around the neck on black satin cord, 24x7, except while
bathing

Expr: No noticeable effects after two weeks of use

Rslt: '0'

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Name: QLink

Desc: Pendant; black, hypo-allergenic acrylic housing an SRT
(Sympathetic Resonance Technology) resonating cell with gold-plated
tuning board and copper amplifying coil. From the manufacturer: "The
SRT Resonator has been specifically developed to 'tune' with the
healthiest energy states of your body, and to keep it [the body]
positively charged" More info on SRT at:
http://www.clarus.com/srinipaper.html

Vend: www.clarus.com

Prot: Worn around the neck on black nylon cord, 24x7, except while
bathing

Expr: First 3 days had more restful sleep. No noticeable effects
after 3 months of use.

Rslt: '0'

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Name: Teslar Watch

Desc: Wrist watch with an embedded Teslar chip. The Teslar chip emits
a 7.8 Hz EM pulse. Directions state it should be worn on left wrist
so that the pulse stimulates the Triple Warmer Meridian, which is
claimed to then stimulate the immune system and carry the 7.8 Hz
signal throughout the body. The 7.8 Hz frequency is the lowest
average Schumann resonance frequency. Schumann resonance frequencies
are those frequencies at which ambient background EM impulses (such as
those generated by lightning) resonate within the Earth
surface-to-ionosphere cavity. (Other average Schumann resonance
frequencies are 14, 20, 26, 33, 39, and 45 Hz.)

Vend: www.teslar.com

Prot: Worn on left wrist during day.

Expr: Created a low-level unease and a mild, caffeine 'jitters'-like
sensation after wearing for more than 10 minutes. I tried to build up
tolerance for the watch by removing it when the unease was too
distracting, trying it on again with an hour interval between
wearings. Prolonged wearing (30 minute intervals over a 48-hour
period) brought on fatigue and I became more electrically sensitive.
I returned to my standard electrical sensitivity ~48 hours after I
stopped wearing the watch.

Rslt: '-'

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Name: 6-Inch Tachyonized Silica Disk

Desc: A thin 6-inch diameter silica disk which has been put through a
process dubbed 'tachyonization' by the manufacturer, Advanced Tachyon
Technologies (ATT).

More from ATT:

"TACHYONIZED™ SILICA DISKS"

"These 4 and 6-inch diameter Tachyonized Silica Disks were developed
for a variety of special applications. As with all Tachyonized Cells,
the Silica Disks are directional, and the energy side is indicated by
the words "Energy flows out this side"."

"Tachyonized Silica Disks are composed of a special silica dioxide
scientifically developed for high-tech industries. The Silica Disks
themselves are very thin and tend to break easily. For this reason
they have been laminated. The lamination strengthens the Silica Disks
and, in the event of breakage, holds the pieces together. If your
Silica Disk does break, it remains completely effective. It is
important that you leave the Silica Disks in the lamination!
Tachyonized Silica Disks raise the life-force potential of anything
placed within their field."

"Both the 4 and 6-inch Disks have a 15-foot energy field that flows
straight out from the side which says "Energy flows out this
side". It is much like the beam that comes off of a flashlight.
Because of this whopping 15-foot field and the 4 or 6-inch diameter of
these Silica Disks you can begin to see that these Disks are very
powerful tachyon antennae. While they have a variety of special uses
they are not intended for use on the body."

Vend: http://www.tachyon-partners.com/home Original ATT site,
www.tachyon-energy.com, looks abandoned. Another site which sells the
ATT products is http://www.tachyon-energy-products.com

Prot: Placed one 6-inch disk on back of computer monitor per
instructions. Placed two 6" disks inside circuit breaker box per
instructions. No effect noted from either of these applications.
Also tried mounting one 6-inch disk on bed headboard 6 inches above
head. Removed after ~5 minutes as stimulation was uncomfortable.
Tried another time with disk positioned per instructions below the bed
with same result.

Expr: Noticeable energy coming from disks. Response to energy varied;
sometimes it felt neutral, sometimes slightly unpleasant. ES/CS was
triggered more easily after close proximity, prolonged exposure to the
disks.

Rslt: '-'

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<<APPEND TO LIST HERE>>

Hello,

I do not agree.

Name: BioElectric Shield
Expr: No noticeable effects after two weeks of use
Rslt: '0'

We found very good working.
But after 6 months, sucked up negative energy and started to emit it.
Three days on a Purple Plate *charged it up again.

The Nabat.
I got from somebody who did not feel any working.
With my wife it worked very well.

So the classification is not what it should be.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Beau" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 08:12
Subject: [eSens] ES mitigation device list

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beau" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 08:12
Subject: [eSens] ES mitigation device list


Hi, everyone,

It looks like the survey idea is a go, so I'll start the list of
devices. Please reply to the group and append to this list each
device you have experience with, including:

1) Device name
2) Device description
3) Device manufacturer or vendor
4) Usage protocol
5) Details of your experience with the device
6) Result; '+' for positive result, '0' for none, or '-' for negative


<<START LIST>>

================================

Name: BioElectric Shield

Desc: Pendant; sterling silver w/ brass tabs; contains quartz crystals
and other precision-cut minerals carefully arranged to "stabilize
wearer's energy field"

Vend: bioelectriccompany.com

Prot: Worn around the neck on black satin cord, 24x7, except while
bathing

Expr: No noticeable effects after two weeks of use

Rslt: '0'

================================

Name: QLink

Desc: Pendant; black, hypo-allergenic acrylic housing an SRT
(Sympathetic Resonance Technology) resonating cell with gold-plated
tuning board and copper amplifying coil. From the manufacturer: "The
SRT Resonator has been specifically developed to 'tune' with the
healthiest energy states of your body, and to keep it [the body]
positively charged" More info on SRT at:
http://www.clarus.com/srinipaper.html

Vend: www.clarus.com

Prot: Worn around the neck on black nylon cord, 24x7, except while
bathing

Expr: First 3 days had more restful sleep. No noticeable effects
after 3 months of use.

Rslt: '0'

================================

Name: Teslar Watch

Desc: Wrist watch with an embedded Teslar chip. The Teslar chip emits
a 7.8 Hz EM pulse. Directions state it should be worn on left wrist
so that the pulse stimulates the Triple Warmer Meridian, which is
claimed to then stimulate the immune system and carry the 7.8 Hz
signal throughout the body. The 7.8 Hz frequency is the lowest
average Schumann resonance frequency. Schumann resonance frequencies
are those frequencies at which ambient background EM impulses (such as
those generated by lightning) resonate within the Earth
surface-to-ionosphere cavity. (Other average Schumann resonance
frequencies are 14, 20, 26, 33, 39, and 45 Hz.)

Vend: www.teslar.com

Prot: Worn on left wrist during day.

Expr: Created a low-level unease and a mild, caffeine 'jitters'-like
sensation after wearing for more than 10 minutes. I tried to build up
tolerance for the watch by removing it when the unease was too
distracting, trying it on again with an hour interval between
wearings. Prolonged wearing (30 minute intervals over a 48-hour
period) brought on fatigue and I became more electrically sensitive.
I returned to my standard electrical sensitivity ~48 hours after I
stopped wearing the watch.

Rslt: '-'

================================


Name: 6-Inch Tachyonized Silica Disk

Desc: A thin 6-inch diameter silica disk which has been put through a
process dubbed 'tachyonization' by the manufacturer, Advanced Tachyon
Technologies (ATT).

More from ATT:

"TACHYONIZEDT SILICA DISKS"

"These 4 and 6-inch diameter Tachyonized Silica Disks were developed
for a variety of special applications. As with all Tachyonized Cells,
the Silica Disks are directional, and the energy side is indicated by
the words "Energy flows out this side"."

"Tachyonized Silica Disks are composed of a special silica dioxide
scientifically developed for high-tech industries. The Silica Disks
themselves are very thin and tend to break easily. For this reason
they have been laminated. The lamination strengthens the Silica Disks
and, in the event of breakage, holds the pieces together. If your
Silica Disk does break, it remains completely effective. It is
important that you leave the Silica Disks in the lamination!
Tachyonized Silica Disks raise the life-force potential of anything
placed within their field."

"Both the 4 and 6-inch Disks have a 15-foot energy field that flows
straight out from the side which says "Energy flows out this
side". It is much like the beam that comes off of a flashlight.
Because of this whopping 15-foot field and the 4 or 6-inch diameter of
these Silica Disks you can begin to see that these Disks are very
powerful tachyon antennae. While they have a variety of special uses
they are not intended for use on the body."

Vend: http://www.tachyon-partners.com/home Original ATT site,
www.tachyon-energy.com, looks abandoned. Another site which sells the
ATT products is http://www.tachyon-energy-products.com

Prot: Placed one 6-inch disk on back of computer monitor per
instructions. Placed two 6" disks inside circuit breaker box per
instructions. No effect noted from either of these applications.
Also tried mounting one 6-inch disk on bed headboard 6 inches above
head. Removed after ~5 minutes as stimulation was uncomfortable.
Tried another time with disk positioned per instructions below the bed
with same result.

Expr: Noticeable energy coming from disks. Response to energy varied;
sometimes it felt neutral, sometimes slightly unpleasant. ES/CS was
triggered more easily after close proximity, prolonged exposure to the
disks.

Rslt: '-'

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<<APPEND TO LIST HERE>>





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>I do not agree.
>So the classification is not what it should be.

Well, everyone seems to react to these products differently, so any list of
items needs to take that into account. The BioElectric Shield didn't seem
to do anything for me either, although I did notice a heart-palpitation of
two from it...

Marc

Hello Marc,

we must find some sort of classification.
It will not be easy, but necessary.

Remember, the working of those *things* depend also on the degree of
electrosensibility.
If your degree is too high, than no such things will help.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 16:16
Subject: Re: [eSens] ES mitigation device list


> >I do not agree.
> >So the classification is not what it should be.
>
> Well, everyone seems to react to these products differently, so any list
of

Sorry, but I cant keep quite!

I'm sure there is a *BIG* amount of placebo effect to!

greetings

Anders Eriksson

Charles wrote:

I would say that the placebo effect is very small.

We have a wide range of products to choose from.
The results are different.

On the other hand, a *state of mind* can do a lot also.
But that has nothing to do with placebo.
Read the book *The Field* by Lynne McTaggart.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Eriksson" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 17:02
Subject: Re: [eSens] ES mitigation device list

seem
> >>to do anything for me either, although I did notice a heart-palpitation
of

Charles and all,

The listings I submitted only takes into account my experience with
the devices mentioned. They aren't meant to be a definitive report.
That is why I'm looking for others to submit listings on the same
devices, along with listings for other devices they've used that
aren't on the list, and their experiences with them. Then we will
collect all the responses for each device into a summary record in the
database and a detail file archived in the Files area.

Beau

> I would say that the placebo effect is very small.

I don't think I've ever observed a placebo effect -- most
of the times when I try a new item, I *want* it to work,
but it doesn't. Or it causes an adverse reaction
that I certainly wouldn't be wishing for! Also, there
are times when I *thought* I was using a device
(and thus the placebo effect would apply), but then
after noting unusual adverse EMF symptoms, I would
realize that I had forgotten to bring it with me (or
turn it on).

Also, my cats react to these devices in a repeatable
manner, and I don't think they are having a placebo
reaction!

The one problem I have noticed it that sometimes when
you have a reaction, it may take a few days
to figure out what the *real* cause of that reaction is.
Sometimes you might attribute a reaction to a device,
but upon repeated experiences you find that the
reaction really came from a food or a supplement.

> We have a wide range of products to choose from.
> The results are different.

Yes indeed -- I've found that different products cause
their own unique reactions (both good and bad), and
these reactions are repeatable from day to day. Also,
each device seems to be good for some situations but
not others, or can be improved by experimenting with
placement (e.g, either on you or on the EMF source).

As for the list of mitigation devices, I've tried
so many that I wouldn't know where to start!

Marc

> It looks like the survey idea is a go, so I'll start the list of
> devices. Please reply to the group and append to this list

I don't think it's a good idea to APPEND to the list in replies,
as we'll just keep getting larger and larger messages, most of
it a repeat of something we've seen before. It would seem to
me that one person should add to the file offline, while the
group members simply post any additions they'd like to make.

Marc

Hi, Marc,

The idea behind appending to the email was to keep all the data in one
place, so to speak, thereby avoiding having to go through lots of
separate emails. The list data compiler then could just go to the
latest version of this thread and see the entire collection of
submissions. I didn't intend this email thread to be the main source
of public info, just a list to assist the data compiler. (I could
have been clearer about this. I was just trying to get out of the
starting gate with the project.) Also, listing submitters can skip
giving redundant info that has already been given in a previous
submission -- e.g., the device description and vendor -- and just
identify the devices and their experiences with them.

I'm up for whatever will facilitate getting the list together and
bring what everyone feels is a viable rating system to it. So if this
won't work, let's use a different approach. :) I'm looking forward to
everybody participating.

Thanks,
Beau

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:

Hi all,

I'll start by adding my thoughts on the initial devices that
Beau listed, which I have also tried, and then add the items
which I am currently using. This still leaves out a LOT
of other items I've tried, with varying results...

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Name: BioElectric Shield (cheapest model)
Expr: No noticeable effect, even after several months use
Rslt: '0'

================================

Name: QLink (cheapest model)
Expr: No noticeable effect, even after several months use
Rslt: '0'

================================

Name: Teslar Watch
Expr: No noticeable effect, even after several months use
Rslt: '0'

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Name: Tachyonized Silica Disk (4-inch)
Expr: When placed above headboard of bed, caused severe headaches
in the middle of the night. When placed on fusebox, no
noticeable effect. When placed behind CRT monitor, no
noticeable effect.
Rslt: '-'

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Name: Springlife Polarizers (Bioharmonics Enhanced)

Desc: Stainless steel containers with a mixture of minerals and
vegetation inside. Supposed to attract "chi", and correct
imbalances in the environment or in a person (including
helping detoxify from heavy metal poisoning). Several
different sizes available, which can be worn on your
person (around the neck, in a pocket), or placed on
the fusebox/incoming water pipe, or near the EMF source.

Vend: www.bioharmonics.com

Expr: Immediate reaction to these -- greatly increased tolerance
for CRT monitor, florescent lights, plus
increased energy levels. For additional protection, try
using multiple or larger models, or combining with Quantum
Products. Be careful with usage -- too much exposure causes
excessive detox symptoms. Can control by putting a few feet
away from you, or limiting the amount of time you use them each
day. Also need to be careful around pets -- my cats start
pooping and peeing everywhere in the house if there are too
many of these the house. Of the models, the smallest pendant
("Lifeforce") is not strong enough to be of much use. The
OM pendant is a good size for typical EMF exposure when out
and about. The larger sizes may be appropriate to place
near a CRT computer monitor. There is a pen-sized and pager
sized model which are not listed on the website, but can
be special ordered. The Springlife Polarizers don't seem
to work well with tolerating LCD computer monitors, though.

Rslt: '+'

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Name: Quantum Products

Desc: Filters the "noise" out of man-made electricity. Specialized
models to treat houses, buildings, computers, , automobiles,
and a portable pager-sized device.

Vend: www.quantumproducts.com

Expr: Immediate reaction to these -- greatly increased tolerance
for CRT monitor, LCD monitor, and florescent lights. For
additional protection, try using multiple or larger models, or
combining with Springlife Polarizers. Be careful with usage --
too much exposure causes excessive detox symptoms. Can control by
turning the setting down on some items, or limiting the amount
of time you use them each day. Also need to be careful around
pets --
my cats start pooping and peeing everywhere in the house if there
are too many of these turned on in the house. Of the models, the
portable "quantum companion" is the least powerful model, and is
not powerful to be of much help. The power strip is much
stronger,
and is useful around the computer. The Quantum Pro is good at
treating large areas, although it needs to be near a computer to
treat it. The products for the computer (both software and
hardware)
work well for that use. The automobile model plugs into the
cigarette
lighter outlet, and works well, however it caused me to get
electric shocks
when leaving the car. These products work much better for
LCD monitors than the Springlife Polarizers. Note that the
power strip requires 120v/60hz power, while the other items
use a 12 volt DC convertor or AA batteries. The disadvantage
with this line is that there is no adequate portable solution.

Rslt: '+'