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sky_watch
That's a total disappointment that there's not a possibility the electric company won't do something but I guess I didn't think they would.

I tried the other filters you mentioned and it was worse when they were plugged in, causing bright pink rash-like spots to appear on my hands front and back among other discomforts. After a bit of time of unplugging those filters the rash-like spots went away. The filters did nothing but make the EMS worse. I guess that happens with some people and I happen to be one of the lucky ones.

Thanks, Marc.
Peacefulness,
Kay

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Fog Top
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I'd like to see a picture of that electric meter.  Most likely if your gas company has "upgraded" their meters, your electric and possibly water meters have been "upgraded" (as in upgraded your chances of getting sick).


I just spent the day working on our rental property and the place felt worse than usual.  The gas company left flyers that they were unable to change out the ERT (encoder receiver transmitter) module to a more advanced one on the home because of a locked gate.  Took a high frequency analyzer over to the neighbor's gas meter and every 10 seconds it maxed out the HF35C with high spikes in between - non-stop 24/7.  The gas meter sits below the master bedroom window.  Within a couple minutes of measuring, a headache and irritability began. The new module is an Itron 100G - the old one that pulsed briefly once a month was a 40G. 


Our electric company uses TWACS power line communication which injects RF into the 60 hertz sinewave 60 times a second.  This is deliberate, massive dirty electricity by the power company which radiates all over the house and town.  I have a picture of a sinewave infected by TWACS and it's a jagged mess of transient frequencies.  Stetzers make matters worse and a whole house filter did nothing. 




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It doesn't appear the electric meter is a Smart Meter going by images I've seen of them. I don't know if it communicates wirelessly otherwise. I believe the natural gas meter may somehow be communicating wirelessly though. I've tried to pay attention when the worst part of the EMFs happen but haven't got it pinned down yet.

I was home when the gas company was out and did something to the meter here but the service person said it was regular maintenance. I know the meter was changed or something was added to it because the old meter had no distinctive color except black and the exchanged meter had red screw head as best I can describe. Later on, in the evening that day, my EMS went into orbit and I blamed it on the meter exchange. One of my children suggested calling the gas company and the customer service told me, no, they would not come back and exchange the meter for the old one. So that was that.

I will say though after cutting the wire the cable company attached to my air-conditioning electrical supply box there are times now that the EMS is practically nonexistent and I'm thankful for that. I want to be completely free but as budget doesn't allow for more I've done all I can at this point.

Thank you again, Fog Top, for your input!
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




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sky_watch
gas meter after changeover

I have other shots of the gas meter if this one isn't adequate. I do know the meter that this one replaced did NOT have the red dot or screw or whatever it is on it.

About the water meter, it's underground and is covered by an iron lid, which isn't accessible but once in a while I do see a service person walk by the meter with some type of reader, I guess that's what it is because they pass it over the iron lid.

Thanks, Fog Top
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steve
That's an analogue meter, no need to worry



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gas meter after changeover

I have other shots of the gas meter if this one isn't adequate. I do know the meter that this one replaced did NOT have the red dot or screw or whatever it is on it.

About the water meter, it's underground and is covered by an iron lid, which isn't accessible but once in a while I do see a service person walk by the meter with some type of reader, I guess that's what it is because they pass it over the iron lid.

Thanks, Fog Top
Peacefulness, Kay
"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel



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Fog Top
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That is a "smart" gas meter (ERT-encoder receiver transmitter) as can be determined by depth of the plastic casing.  The old non-transmitting gas meters looked about the same from the face view, but the depth of the casing was only about 1/2-inch thick - the one you now have is about 3" deep.  You can also read the label which will be either on top or bottom of the plastic case.  Let me know if it says 40G or 100G.  

Scroll down to the "gas meters" section and study the pictures in this Smart Meter Education Network article:http://www.smartmetereducationnetwork.com/how-to-tell-if-I-have-a-ami-dte-smart-advanced-meter.php#9





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gas meter after changeover

I have other shots of the gas meter if this one isn't adequate. I do know the meter that this one replaced did NOT have the red dot or screw or whatever it is on it.

About the water meter, it's underground and is covered by an iron lid, which isn't accessible but once in a while I do see a service person walk by the meter with some type of reader, I guess that's what it is because they pass it over the iron lid.

Thanks, Fog Top
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




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Fog Top
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At least your water meter is still OK since they have to come around to read it.  Their handheld transmitter sends a signal to wake-up the water meter to send a pulse containing the usage info, but then it most likely goes back to sleep and doesn't transmit.




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gas meter after changeover

I have other shots of the gas meter if this one isn't adequate. I do know the meter that this one replaced did NOT have the red dot or screw or whatever it is on it.

About the water meter, it's underground and is covered by an iron lid, which isn't accessible but once in a while I do see a service person walk by the meter with some type of reader, I guess that's what it is because they pass it over the iron lid.

Thanks, Fog Top
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




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sky_watch
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I didn't realize my smart gas meter could communicate with my electric meter. Oh the things they keep from us.

Here's my gas meter, top view. 100G



Electric meter, side and front.





Thank you again, Fog Top!
Peacefulness,
Kay

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Fog Top

Your electric meter appears to be an analog, but sometimes a stealth transmitter is inside which can be seen by looking up through the bottom of the meter.  So your gas meter may be transmitting to an antenna mounted somewhere in the neighborhood or directly to a cell tower.  100G gas ERTs are two-way communicating because they need to know what you're doing every minute.

Stealth meters: http://www.eiwellspring.org/smartmeter/StealthMeters.htm 




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I didn't realize my smart gas meter could communicate with my electric meter. Oh the things they keep from us.

Here's my gas meter, top view. 100G



Electric meter, side and front.





Thank you again, Fog Top!
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




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sky_watch
I forgot to mention about my electric meter. The other day I happened to see a service person reading my electric meter. Does that mean then that meter is analog?
Peacefulness,
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Fog Top

Yes, I would assume it's still analog as it appears to be and since the utility is still reading it.  The digital components themselves in electrical smart meters infect all the wiring of the house which several electrical engineers have concluded.  Numerous people have reported illness right after digital electrical meter installation when the RF transceivers were not yet turned on.


Your utility will most likely switch to 2-way communication digital electric meters in the near future.  Some have been able to stop the installation by sending a certified letter to the utility requesting non-installation (I will forward you a copy of a professionally written letter if you wish) or sending a letter from their doctor that they have electrical sensitivities and requesting that their patient keep an analog meter.  It depends on the utility - some honor the request and some are militant about installation to the point of bringing the color-of-the-law (police officers) to force the installation.




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I forgot to mention about my electric meter. The other day I happened to see a service person reading my electric meter. Does that mean then that meter is analog?
Peacefulness, Kay

"I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




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sky_watch
I would be grateful for a copy of the letter.

Thanks again, FT!
Peacefulness,
Kay

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steve
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I just received it and one end plugged into the coax cable coming in but the other end doesn't fit in the splitter, it's a different connection.
Now what?
Steve



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Ideally it's just before the splitter, so the ground loop is broken for both your TV and your cable modem.  

Marc



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Is it a male/female connector issue?  I had to add a short run of cable in between the isolator and the splitter so that everything connected.  They probably also make adapters for that sort of thing too.

Marc

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Marc Martin
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This is the kind of adapter that I think you might need, a male-to-male F connector:

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CDYROA/

I can't say if the Amazon comments about signal loss are valid... in theory, this should have less signal loss than a short run of coax cable.

Marc
 
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steve
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Yep, that's the issue. Wouldn't having to run another cable degrade the signal? I emailed the company, let's see if they have an adapter that will work
Steve



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Is it a male/female connector issue?  I had to add a short run of cable in between the isolator and the splitter so that everything connected.  They probably also make adapters for that sort of thing too.

Marc

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> I just received it and one end plugged into the coax cable coming in but the other end doesn't fit in the splitter, it's a different connection.Now what?Steve
 



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steve
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Thanks, I'm going to look into this and see what the company says when they email me back.
Steve



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This is the kind of adapter that I think you might need, a male-to-male F connector:

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CDYROA/

I can't say if the Amazon comments about signal loss are valid... in theory, this should have less signal loss than a short run of coax cable.

Marc
 



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steve
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Just wondering if I don't have any issues with lines on my TV do I even need this isolator?
Does it really reduce EMFs at all?
Steve



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This is the kind of adapter that I think you might need, a male-to-male F connector:

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CDYROA/

I can't say if the Amazon comments about signal loss are valid... in theory, this should have less signal loss than a short run of coax cable.

Marc
 



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> Just wondering if I don't have any issues with lines on my TV do I even need this isolator?  Does it really reduce EMFs at all?  

Well, I can't say with any certainty that you need it, all I know is that it reduces my symptoms from use of the cable modem.  Significantly.

Marc
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steve
OK, then I will buy a short coax cable to put between the isolator and splitter



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> Just wondering if I don't have any issues with lines on my TV do I even need this isolator?  Does it really reduce EMFs at all?  

Well, I can't say with any certainty that you need it, all I know is that it reduces my symptoms from use of the cable modem.  Significantly.

Marc



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steve
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I got the coax cable and connected the isolator but now my picture on the TV has shrunk to wide screen (I have a square CRT)
Steve



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> Just wondering if I don't have any issues with lines on my TV do I even need this isolator?  Does it really reduce EMFs at all?  

Well, I can't say with any certainty that you need it, all I know is that it reduces my symptoms from use of the cable modem.  Significantly.

Marc



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