EMF reading of 30milliGauss close to gas water heater - right above kitchen sink

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> Hi Bill and Gariki,
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> <Unfortunately probably 90% of electricians don't understand the
> problem.>
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> So true.  I could have gone to school and learned wiring myself and rewired our house, also, in the time it took to find one who would do it the way I asked!  It was a painful process.
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> <Shielded wiring is nice, but won't solve the problem.>
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> We had shielded wiring put in, however, that only works as well as your ability to keep frequencies out of the house.  In some circumstances emfs penetrate our brick walls.  We have particular problems with emfs penetrating during a 3 hour window on Sunday mornings.  When this happens, those frequencies radiate around the house due to the metal shielded wiring itself.  So, I would definitely not put metal wiring in in the future, seeing smart meters and possible satellite transmissions coming down the pike.
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> <I suspect there was a similar "net current" probably at
> your water heaters too... >
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> Gariki, I don't remember all the particulars of your original post, however, I remember you writing about having problems around your sink....  We had similar problems with our water and water heater....  To fix it we bought a gas only hot water heater and had it installed, and we had the water pipes moved to a different course into the house which avoided electric wiring.  (In our circumstance, the water pipes snaked all thru the house and under the bedrooms, when all they needed to do was to come in to the back of the house and go directly to the bath and kitchen.)  I don't know whether this is helpful info for you or not, but if you are trading a single dwelling for an apartment or condo, I would definitely keep the single dwelling and change the water situation.  If/ when smart meters come to your area, you will need all the space from others' meters that you can get. 
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> My 2 cents,
> Diane 
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> Diane,
> Yes, they are supposed to be grounded.
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> The NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE..states water pipes to be grounded AT the
> SERVICE ENTRANCE to the house.
> This means that at the entrance, where as in the case of my house, both the
> electric panel, and the city
> water enter the house via the same wall. This is also where the grounding
> cables are to be used,
> having been connected to both the electrical main panel and the primary
> water line- then, thru a hole
> in the wall, the cable goes outside and is then, connected to the grounding
> rods.
> The service entrance is the wall where your water line connects to the
> city's water line. The water meter
> - mine anyway, is located at this area in my basement, where my water line
> connects to the city's.
> Where the problem and emf issues come into play, is that often electricians
> will use the water pipes, any water
> pipes to ground electric wiring. This creates what is called: "net current"
> on all the water pipes thru out the
> house. It essentially puts current onto not just the pipes themselves, but
> into the water supply running thru-out
> the house. It can create a rather large field of unwanted and harmful emfs.
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> **Before you ask, I have seen the regulated change in the actual book,
> National Electric Code. I do not own a copy-
> my electrician does. The code used to be, that using the water pipes to
> ground was okay, it has, as of a year ago,
> been changed. The code book specifically states the water line is to be
> grounded AT THE SERVICE ENTRANCE.
> Electricians for decades though, have used any water pipes near a new or
> modified wiring addition, to ground
> to.
> Lizzie
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:45:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF reading of 30milliGauss close to gas water
> heater - right above kitchen sink
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> I was told new construction grounds them to a grounding rod & not on water
> pipes as used to be done.
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> Kathy
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> From: Evie <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF reading of 30milliGauss close to gas water
> heater - right above kitchen sink
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:29 PM
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> I believe, tho, Lizzie, there are State codes which enforce this. Here in
> Pa, they want water pipes grounded, but I know for fact this is not the case
> in all States.
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> Diane
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> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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> To: [hidden email]
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 12:59 PM
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> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: EMF reading of 30milliGauss close to gas water
> heater - right above kitchen sink
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> According to the National Electrical Code, just updated this past year: it
> is NO longer code for water pipes to be grounded. Code calls for grounding
> of water line AT the service entrance (this is where the water comes into
> the house.)
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> Lizzie
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> > From: [hidden email]
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> > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:18:40 -0600
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> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF reading of 30milliGauss close to gas water
> heater - right above kitchen sink
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> > Usually wiring isn't so bad except when there are
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> > loops caused by ground loops or ganged neutrals.
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> > There are a couple books on this (one by Ed Leeper I used).
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> > Unfortunately probably 90% of electricians don't understand the
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> > problem. Shielded wiring is nice, but won't solve the problem.
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> > I suspect there was a similar "net current" probably at
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> > your water heaters too... often this can be fixed by just
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> > disconnecting the ground wire from the water pipes, though
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> > code usual requires that wire be connected.
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