EMF does not hang around

Someone here wrote that when electronics had been plugged in that created EMF
she could feel the electromagnetic field for a couple of hours after the
gizmos were unplugged.

An electromagnetic field collapes the moment what is creating it stops
creating it. You may feel symptoms for a while, but the field is no longer there.

If you tell people you are feeling a field they know no longer exists, it
will affect your credibility.

It is actually the repeated collapse of the field that puts out the energy
that causes ES symptoms. For instance, a 180 Hz field builds and collapses 180
times a second.    

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com














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Hi Shivani,

Some years ago I was told by a friend that it was not a good idea to sleep close to a TV even if it was unplugged as it takes awhile (days) for the electrical charge to dissapate. I am paraphrasing, I don't recall exactly what he said, just remember it was not a good idea, and this friend had a background in physics.

Kathy

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Hello Kathy,

some telkevision sets do need some time to dissipate all fields.
You can see that in darkness, when the screen is still glowing.

On the other hand, many television sets do emit radio frequencies, because
they work like a secundary antenna.
You can check that with a VLF detector, or a HAM radio.
The television may be shutt off, but the antenna-cable may be plugged in,
and also that way signals keep emitting from the screen. (Sometimes from the
cables also!)

So stay away from television sets.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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Hi Shivani,

Some years ago I was told by a friend that it was not a good idea to sleep
close to a TV even if it was unplugged as it takes awhile (days) for the
electrical charge to dissapate. I am paraphrasing, I don't recall exactly
what he said, just remember it was not a good idea, and this friend had a
background in physics.

Kathy

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Are you sure you meant 180 times per second. That seems impossible. Loni

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Someone here wrote that when electronics had been plugged in that created EMF
she could feel the electromagnetic field for a couple of hours after the
gizmos were unplugged.

An electromagnetic field collapes the moment what is creating it stops
creating it. You may feel symptoms for a while, but the field is no longer there.

If you tell people you are feeling a field they know no longer exists, it
will affect your credibility.

It is actually the repeated collapse of the field that puts out the energy
that causes ES symptoms. For instance, a 180 Hz field builds and collapses 180
times a second.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies. com

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Hi, SArjuna,
 
Sorry, like you, I also do not come to the forum everyday and so I am getting to your post in an untimely fashion.  It was I who wrote that I could feel “emfs” several hours after electronics had been unplugged (in some situations).  I had thought that this was cleared up in subsequent posts by me and others, however, I will summarize that a bit for you, since you possibly did not see the subsequent posts:
 
I originally asked Paul (PUK) if an idea to plug something in while he was away would not create problems for him when he returned home, due to lingering emfs (infact, I think I said specifically “a magnetic field”).  I wrote this because others—building biologists, some here, and 2 doctors who treat es, had all lead me to believe this is the case.  [I asked questions last fall about a situation in a house my husband and I are renovating involving the wiring, and said that after I turned off the mains I could still feel emfs.  I asked whether this meant,then, that the emfs were coming from outside the house.  The answer Igot from here and others (bbs and drs) indicated that emfs could still be present on the wiring—some said up to 2 hours and the drs said up to 48 hours!]  I was just repeating what I thought was good info from others.
 
However, that said, I did subsequently write during this thread that I sometimes feel emf-like feelings (vibration, static-electricity like feelings—like my hair standing “on end”, and sometimes headache) after some electronics are unplugged.  This is not a frequent occurrence, but sometimes it does happen.  I had a very odd occurrence of that, for instance, with my Ethernet cord awhile back.  I had shut down my computer and unplugged everything, but forgot to unplug my cord frommy computer.  When I investigated where my reaction was coming from, I found it stopped when I unplugged my Ethernet cord from my computer.  I found that totally bizarre at the time (about 2 hours had passed between the time I had shut down my computer and I re-entered the room); however, in my life, that is somewhat the norm—afterall, how bizarre is es to begin with???  I usually can eventually find a reason for these bizarre reactions tho—in the case of the
Ethernet cord, it was possibly somehow acting as an antenna.  Other times, as was later discussed on the thread that followed the post you mention, I might be reacting to scalar waves or other subtle energies.  I do not always have a precise reason why I am reacting, but I have learned overtime that I don’t need to.  (People do not necessarily believe you even when science backs you up—this is what I mean here; I don’t need to prove anything to myself.)
 
That said, I do appreciate when you, SArjuna, (also Dietrich, Charles, and others), explain in a scientific way, what is going on.  I want to express appreciation for you reminding us that repeated current collapsing is what causes particular es reactions.  However, I am a bit confused—are you then saying that this is the only instance in which we can react?  Perhaps this is a matter of symantics.  I react, for instance, to trains passing.  Are these frequencies the same (repeated current collapsing???)  What about reactions to geo-magnetic fields, underground springs, etc? 
 
Whether any given person is going to believe or find me credible is not forme to say and I have long-since gotten to the point of where I care. I went to medical doctors for 49 years looking for a dx for an illness that began for me in infancy.  All I got from them for 49 years was griefand misery.  And some of these doctors did not find me credible or believe me.  At the age of 49, after (credibly) nearly dying over a halfdozen times, I was finally found to have had a genetic disease (celiac disease) which (surprise, surprise!) accounted for almost all of my past symptoms.  So I am quite used to being found incredible and it doesn’t bother me a bit.  It just means that the science hasn’t yet quantified and “legitimized” what I am experiencing.  I have also had this experience over and over—after having beendiagnosed with celiac disease, I again defied the odds by having abnormal complications.  In every case, later research
legitimized what I had experienced.  I am writing this because I think the notion that people who experience things outside the norm, being understood by others as “mentally deranged, lying, or delusional”, is almost always wrong.  Even true mental illness today should beunderstood in the light of functional physical disease.  (This being the case, tho, I still do not talk openly of my es with most people; tho I do think it is necessary to discuss these reactions here on this forum.)  I feel it is esp important to mention bizarre reactions here.  Otherwise, how will others know if what they experience is es?  If odd reactions end up being vibrational illness, etc, then each bit of knowledge propels the es person toward understanding and resolution.
 
My 2 cents, for what it is worth,
Diane
 
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Someone here wrote that when electronics had been plugged in that created EMF
she could feel the electromagnetic field for a couple of hours after the
gizmos were unplugged.

An electromagnetic field collapes the moment what is creating it stops
creating it. You may feel symptoms for a while, but the field is no longer there.

If you tell people you are feeling a field they know no longer exists, it
will affect your credibility.

It is actually the repeated collapse of the field that puts out the energy
that causes ES symptoms. For instance, a 180 Hz field builds and collapses 180
times a second.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies. com

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