EMF & Teeth

In the past four months the only two major changes we can think of which
may increase my wife's ES are to

   1) buy a new laptop on which we couldn't disable wifi for about a month

   2) have two crowns amalgum (with metal) on nthe right side of her mouth

Has anyone had any experience with crowns causing problems - she has had
pain in her right side neck and arms

Thanks

Graeme


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> Has anyone had any experience with crowns causing problems - she has had
> pain in her right side neck and arms

Any metal on/in/around the body will increase symptoms -- that includes
metal dental work, eyeglasses, jewelry, underwire bras, car keys,
watches, rings, belt buckles, etc.

Metal dental work adds an additional problem in that the metal is
more actively eroding into your body, which causes more problems
for any organ that those metals end up in.

Marc

I had a metal crown and replaced with porcelain and no problem. Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF & Teeth
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Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 5:06 PM


 



> Has anyone had any experience with crowns causing problems - she has had
> pain in her right side neck and arms

Any metal on/in/around the body will increase symptoms -- that includes
metal dental work, eyeglasses, jewelry, underwire bras, car keys,
watches, rings, belt buckles, etc.

Metal dental work adds an additional problem in that the metal is
more actively eroding into your body, which causes more problems
for any organ that those metals end up in.

Marc







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--- At 05:00 PM 28 07 2011, Graeme Chaston wrote (in part):
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>... 2) have two crowns amalgum (with metal) on the right side of her mouth


Metal crowns over amalgam fillings?

That's probably the worst type of crown, because... two different metals in
the same tooth (or even in in the same mouth!) are guaranteed to generate
"galvanic currents", that (in many cases) irritate nerves and cause pain,
and/or seemingly-unrelated organ dysfunction(s) in distant parts of the body.

Search: http://www.google.com/search?q=gold+amalgam+galvanic+currents

Any dentist who does that "should" be made to pay full damages.. This needs
to be removed from "the victim" ASAP, to limit the adverse affects.

Never put a crown over an amalgam filling, and never combine metals in/on
the same tooth -- or even in the same mouth.. That includes gold crowns --
they are not just "gold"; they are alloys; and alloys can vary widely,
with many combinations able to produce "galvanic current disease".

( The gold alloys for crowns, etc. should be "electrically matched", if not
identical, to prevent electric currents from affecting nerves in the mouth.)

( The teeth are "electrically connected" with specific body organs:
Search: http://www.google.com/search?q=teeth+meridian+organs 
PDF: http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/ToothOrganChart8.5x11.pdf )


No, it's not "EMF"; it's DC (direct current), generated by the "battery
effect" with the saliva in the mouth.

The same thing occurs "under" a metal crown if there is any amalgam there.

The first step should have been to replace the amalgam filling with a
white plastic filling, before placing the crown.

Maybe that dentist missed class that day?


JD







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You are forgetting one important thing. Once you are ES repeated exposure will make you have worse symptoms over time and possibly also increase the electrical devices you are reacting to. I too can not tolerate the same things your wife seems to react too. It only took a few weeks to go from reacting to my computer to reacting to phones, cameras, GPS devices, normal wired phones, radios, TVs, just about everything electronic because I didn't practice good avoidance at the start. Right now I can only use a computer because I am far away from the monitor/computer about 20 feet away. Maybe a bit closer is still safe, but I won't risk that.

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Did it help with symptoms too though?


--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
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> I had a metal crown and replaced with porcelain and no problem. Loni
>

Thanks Marc


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> > I had a metal crown and replaced with porcelain and no problem. Loni
> Did it help with symptoms too though?

I'll note that in my own case, I had all metal (amalgam fillings, crowns, etc.)
replaced in my mouth 10 years ago.  This *did* actually eliminate many
of my health complaints instantly -- however, the EMF sensitivity was
NOT one of those complaints that went away from this.  I think this may
be a necessary first step (for some) to help with EMF sensitivity, but you
also need to follow it up by getting the metal accumulations out of your
organs, nervous system, etc.  And that could take many years... for me,
it's 10 years and counting, although admittedly I made a lot of mistakes
along the way (and unfortunately, some of these mistakes are still being
suggested on this group as good things to do)

Marc

> You are forgetting one important thing. Once you are ES repeated exposure will
> make you have worse symptoms over time and possibly also increase the
> electrical devices you are reacting to.

Yes, although if you follow some of the advice on this group, your tolerance to
such things may increase.  I know that there are many things that I could not
tolerate 10 years ago that don't cause me any symptoms today.

Marc

No I am still severely EHS but nothing to do with the crown. Loni

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Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF & Teeth
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, July 29, 2011, 8:56 AM


 



Did it help with symptoms too though?

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
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> I had a metal crown and replaced with porcelain and no problem. Loni
>








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The company we purchased the shielded cap, vest and pendant said to "ground"
for 20 minutes per day ie no shoes and sock standing (not sitting) on grass,
concrete, rocks etc

Graeme


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Marc,

Did you do chelation?

 I am having the residual effects down
the road of having filings removed the wrong way. Anyone getting them out
please find a dentist that uses the safe  method, so you don't take on
more metals.

http://www.mercuryfreenow.com/freeservices/amalremov.html

httphttp://www.mercurypoisoned.com/new/doctors_and_dentists.html:

Need some direction,  am considering chelation.

Kathy


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re:
 [eSens] Re: EMF & Teeth
, I had all metal (amalgam fillings, crowns, etc.)

replaced in my mouth 10 years ago.
I think this may

be a necessary first step (for some) to help with EMF sensitivity, but you

also need to follow it up by getting t
he metal accumulations out of your

organs, nervous system, etc.  And that could take many years... for me,

it's 10 years and counting, although admittedly I made a lot of mistakes

along the way (and unfortunately, some of these mistakes are still being

suggested on this group as good things to do)



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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Everyone says you need to ground in the country, a park, etc.

Has anyone seen positive results in a neighborhood park? Sometimes we can't swing \
getting to the healthiest place.

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      The company we purchased the shielded cap, vest and pendant said to "ground"

for 20 minutes per day ie no shoes and sock standing (not sitting) on grass,

concrete, rocks etc



Graeme



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> Marc,
>
> Did you do chelation?

Yes, I've tried various forms of chelation, but usually get some sort of
adverse reaction so I have to do it very slowly.  Although I'm
sure that I've made quite a lot of progress over the past 10 years...
just not as much progress as I *should* have made over that
period of time.  :-/

The thing to remember about chelation is that if you're not careful,
you can make yourself worse than you were when you started!

For me...
  NDF -- good progress while doing this (didn't cure me, though)
  Frequent-dose-chelation using ALA --
     not much progress while doing this (with some adverse reaction)
  Frequent dose chelation using DMPS --
    came down with nasty virus after a few rounds (coincidence?)
  Zeolite -- adverse reactions
  OSR -- came down with a nasty virus after several days
     (not a coincidence, as it was repeatable)
  ionic foot bath -- made me much worse after a few sessions

Marc

Hey Marc,

I was really helped out by chelating with Kelatox (EDTA) suppositories every day for about 6 months.  I made pretty dramatic progress with becoming less wireless-sensitive over the first three months of the treatment.  I never experienced any side effects from it, and in fact the feeling of having the EDTA in my bloodstream was a somewhat euphoric one at first.

You're right that it can be dangerous though, and ideally it should be done under a doctor's supervision.  Several doctors have told me that IV or suppositories are generally a lot safer than the oral route, especially for EDTA.


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> I was really helped out by chelating with Kelatox (EDTA) suppositories every day
> for about 6 months.  I made pretty dramatic progress with becoming less
> wireless-sensitive over the first three months of the treatment.  I never
> experienced any side effects from it, and in fact the feeling of having the
> EDTA in my bloodstream was a somewhat euphoric one at first.

Thanks, that's great to hear!  I've tried an oral version of the same active
ingredient (Calcium Disodium EDTA), but it made me feel "weird", and I wasn't
convinced it was a *good* weird.  Definitely not euphoric... :-)

Marc

Hi,

These sound great! Where is the best place to order them from price wise etc?

Cheryl

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Kelatox
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      > I was really helped out by chelating with Kelatox (EDTA) suppositories every day

> for about 6 months.  I made pretty dramatic progress with becoming less

> wireless-sensitive over the first three months of the treatment.  I never

> experienced any side effects from it, and in fact the feeling of having the

> EDTA in my bloodstream was a somewhat euphoric one at first.



Thanks, that's great to hear!  I've tried an oral version of the same active

ingredient (Calcium Disodium EDTA), but it made me feel "weird", and I wasn't

convinced it was a *good* weird.  Definitely not euphoric... :-)



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 





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Hi,
Regarding doing any detox, be it the EDTA or ect. These agents will PULL out more then heavy metals, they also pull out  vital minerals, such as: Magnesium, Iodine, Selenium, etc.
This is why many who have done the "foot baths" ended up feeling worse. Because the body had to be LOW in minerals to start with...in order to accumulate heavy metals. A body that has sufficient levels of: Iodine, Magnesium, Calcium, Selenium, Potassium, etc, wouldn't have any ROOM for heavy metals to take up residence. This is why I caution people on doing detox this way. It is much safer to give the body the tools, as in vital minerals it is missing, or doesn't have enough of...then to detox. When you feed the body the nutrients/minerals it needs, it will naturally detox. Yes, this is a slower way to go. But it is also a safer way to do it.
LIzzie
 



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Hi,

These sound great! Where is the best place to order them from price wise etc?

Cheryl

--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Kelatox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 12:47 PM

 

> I was really helped out by chelating with Kelatox (EDTA) suppositories every day

> for about 6 months. I made pretty dramatic progress with becoming less

> wireless-sensitive over the first three months of the treatment. I never

> experienced any side effects from it, and in fact the feeling of having the

> EDTA in my bloodstream was a somewhat euphoric one at first.

Thanks, that's great to hear! I've tried an oral version of the same active

ingredient (Calcium Disodium EDTA), but it made me feel "weird", and I wasn't

convinced it was a *good* weird. Definitely not euphoric... :-)

Marc

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 Metals in the mouth serve as receiving antennae.  They also block the energy flow of the meriidan that flows through the particular tooth they are placed on.  Google dental meridians for specifics about what organs correspond to what teeth.

I know someone who for years had terrible trouble with her left thumb and left big toe.  These are both on the same meridian, but it did not occur to anyone that anything in her mouth could have anything to do with it.  Until Dr. Douglas Cook of Suring, Wisconsin tested her teeth electrodermally and began replacng materials in teeth that showed energy blockage.  One of these teeth had two tiny titanium pins under a crown, that a previous dentist had put in to stabilize a large filling.  In addition, the crown contained a metal oxide.  

By the next day, she noticed improvement in several left-side symptoms and within a week both the toe and thumb were amazingly better.

I recently met someone else who had the same kind of trouble with her left thumb.  I asked her about metal in her mouth she showed me her one gold crown - on the same number tooth.

Dr. Cook tells story after story of how people's symptoms disappear when the dental materials causing them are removed and replaced with appropriate ones.   I suggest you do some reading at his website, get a copy of his book and call his office to see if they can refer you to someone who does similar work near you.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com




 


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Wow, I think I might give that a whirl. Is it perscription? Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Kelatox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 12:47 PM


 



> I was really helped out by chelating with Kelatox (EDTA) suppositories every day
> for about 6 months. I made pretty dramatic progress with becoming less
> wireless-sensitive over the first three months of the treatment. I never
> experienced any side effects from it, and in fact the feeling of having the
> EDTA in my bloodstream was a somewhat euphoric one at first.

Thanks, that's great to hear! I've tried an oral version of the same active
ingredient (Calcium Disodium EDTA), but it made me feel "weird", and I wasn't
convinced it was a *good* weird. Definitely not euphoric... :-)

Marc







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