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EHS and caries

cinciripini
Hello !

any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?

anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?

Thanks

Giorgio

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Re: EHS and caries

Emil at Less EMF Inc
I have not seen this correlation in the research literature.

Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc.
809 Madison Ave.
Albany NY 12208 USA
tel: +1-518-432-1550
www.lessemf.com

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> Hello !
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> any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?
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> anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?
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> Thanks
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> Giorgio
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Re: EHS and caries

BiBrun
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For sure tooth decay is a big drain on body resources.
Addressing it can help a lot.

But, not sure the usual approach of x-rays and fillings
should be considered safe.  There are books on other
approaches, but unclear if they work.   Get them real
clean and temorary fillings may last a long time, and
can be removed if adverse reaction.

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> Hello !
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> any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?
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> anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?
>
> Thanks
>
> Giorgio
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>


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Re: EHS and caries

Marc Martin
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Yes, but I think we've established that EMF can cause calcium
mobilization and also acidosis, both of which could increase
tooth decay.

Marc

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 04:03 PM, Emil at Less EMF Inc wrote:
> I have not seen this correlation in the research literature.
 
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RE: EHS and caries

Elizabeth thode
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Absolutely. For example, silver fillings also contain COPPER and Mercury.
Copper conducts electricity. Galvanism is the battery effect in the mouth..
the metals combined with saliva (electrolytes) combine to make a battery
of literally -live voltage, as in current in the mouth.
Electricity takes the path of least resistance....this means in the case
of metals in the mouth- to the brain. Metals act as antennas for wireless
radiation. So now you have a battery in the mouth, effecting the body's
electrical balance, AND the fillings/dental work acting as antennas,
basically bringing INTO the body the wireless radiation, piggybacking
onto this galvanic process. This results in: actual heating of the metals
and the tissues, causing mercury fumes and vapor to MULITPLY inside
the body, also creating Electrical blockages within the body.....which further
acts to UNGROUND the body. Last effect is minor considering the above-
which is that the oral galvanism process erodes/breaks down the fillings.
I actually felt my brain being HEATED up literally when I had this happen to me.
Back then, I found ONE little measley article on oral galvansim....my dentist
had never heard of it.
The more enlightoned dentist, can take a meter and measure the voltage in fillings.
Silver fillings/ gold/silver crowns...some dental materials contain metals....
this is a disaster when you combine this with wireless radiation.
Also, every tooth corresponds to an organ or area of the body.
 
Mercury fillings (they call them silver fillings) WILL absolutely destroy
fillings, which can cause more tooth decay, and of course, brings in
lots of  repeat business/ revenue/money for dentists who stupidly
continue to use mercury/silver fillings.
Ever hear the saying:"Mad as a Hatter?" Back in the late 1800's, the
people who made those wool/felt hats used Mercury to make the
fabric stiff....mercury of course is highly TOXIC to the body (and
environment) and often made them nuts. Also the phrase
"mercurial rage"...as in mad.
Thankfully, many dentists today  are rethinking the use of Mercury/Siver.
Here's a good link.
 
 
IAOMT | mercury free dentistry, Mercury Safe Dentists, Fluoride Free ...




www.iaomt.org/
Lizzie

 



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Hello !

any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?

anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?

Thanks

Giorgio




     

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iPhone Sales Double

C.a.b. Johnson
 
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2017322803_apusearnsapple.html

Apple doubles iPhone sales in 1Q

"Apple Inc. on Tuesday said it sold 37 million iPhones in the quarter, double the figure of the previous quarter and more than twice as many as it sold in last year's holiday quarter.

The result may make Apple the world's largest maker of smartphones. Samsung Electronics, which held that position for most of last year, has said it expects to report shipping about 35 million smartphones in the October to December quarter.

October saw the launch of the iPhone 4S, and the addition of Sprint Nextel Corp. as an iPhone carrier in the U.S."

RANT: From the article above, it looks like we are in the BOOM TIMES of
wireless technology.  Unless the casualities keep mounting up and lots
of people protest and complain about the hazards of wireless
technology, there is a good possiblity that the Wireless Industry could
become as powerful as Big Oil Companies are now.  How long until prople
stand up against being RADIATED on a mass scale?













 





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Re: EHS and caries

Minni
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Speaking from empirical evidence (my own experience):

There's a direct correlation for me, between prolonged computer exposure, and onset of my teeth tingling sensitively.

Of course, it takes a bit longer for the effect to happen when I'm on lower power (low ghz) systems, with the Backlights turned Down to the utmost possible.

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> Hello !
>
> any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?
>
> anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?
>
> Thanks
>
> Giorgio
>


Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog
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BiBrun
At one point I had a toothache that really only hurt when I was in sight of
a cell tower...

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>
>
> Speaking from empirical evidence (my own experience):
>
> There's a direct correlation for me, between prolonged computer exposure,
> and onset of my teeth tingling sensitively.
>
> Of course, it takes a bit longer for the effect to happen when I'm on
> lower power (low ghz) systems, with the Backlights turned Down to the
> utmost possible.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "giorgio cinciripini" <CINCIRIPINI@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello !
> >
> > any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?
> >
> > anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
>
>  
>


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Re: iPhone Sales Double

Christina Steils
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Please go onto the Apple forum. ie ipads making people dizzy and sick! And the same for iphones?? Not long before more people become ES. Of course Apple say its the screen. : )


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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2017322803_apusearnsapple.html

Apple doubles iPhone sales in 1Q

"Apple Inc. on Tuesday said it sold 37 million iPhones in the quarter, double the figure of the previous quarter and more than twice as many as it sold in last year's holiday quarter.

The result may make Apple the world's largest maker of smartphones. Samsung Electronics, which held that position for most of last year, has said it expects to report shipping about 35 million smartphones in the October to December quarter.

October saw the launch of the iPhone 4S, and the addition of Sprint Nextel Corp. as an iPhone carrier in the U.S."

RANT: From the article above, it looks like we are in the BOOM TIMES of
wireless technology.  Unless the casualities keep mounting up and lots
of people protest and complain about the hazards of wireless
technology, there is a good possiblity that the Wireless Industry could
become as powerful as Big Oil Companies are now.  How long until prople
stand up against being RADIATED on a mass scale?

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Re: EHS and caries

cinciripini
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Yes, Marc

the problem is in my son (21 years old) that's ES and he has hypocalcemia (just checked 4.1 mg/100Ml).

It sounds congruent.

In this case, what shall he do ?  to add - as has been taking - Calcium supplements for the rest of his life ?  

Note: his mother (my wife) is ES, too.  She had very big big problems in 2007.

Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

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> Yes, but I think we've established that EMF can cause calcium
> mobilization and also acidosis, both of which could increase
> tooth decay.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 04:03 PM, Emil at Less EMF Inc wrote:
> > I have not seen this correlation in the research literature.
>


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BiBrun
These days it's $200 to get one's genotype done (23andme.com)
which might give insight.  With calcium the things that come to mind
includ vitamin C, D, zinc and copper.  Don't overdo the copper, it
could be bad for the brain.  With teeth, also magnesium.  There is
a time-release version from Jigsaw for those who don't tolerate magnesium
supplements.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:32 AM, giorgio cinciripini <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Yes, Marc
>
> the problem is in my son (21 years old) that's ES and he has hypocalcemia
> (just checked 4.1 mg/100Ml).
>
> It sounds congruent.
>
> In this case, what shall he do ? to add - as has been taking - Calcium
> supplements for the rest of his life ?
>
> Note: his mother (my wife) is ES, too. She had very big big problems in
> 2007.
>
> Giorgio
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but I think we've established that EMF can cause calcium
> > mobilization and also acidosis, both of which could increase
> > tooth decay.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 04:03 PM, Emil at Less EMF Inc wrote:
> > > I have not seen this correlation in the research literature.
> >
>
>  
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Re: EHS and caries

Elizabeth thode
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Giorgio,
Calcium needs MAGNESIUM to work.
Many Magnesium supplements aren't absorbed easily by the body.
This is why the Magnesium Chloride Oil, used transdermally, on the
skin, is a truly excellent way to get Magnesium INTO the body.
When used on the skin, the cells wil absorb the Magnesiium very
quickly.
Sounds like the calcium is being wasted/leached....due to lack of
Magnesium. There are two sources for the Magnesium Chloride Oil.
www.ancientminerals.com and www.thepowermall.com
Buying the OIL versus the gel/lotion is more economical. Plus you can get a spray
bottle, dilite the Magnesium Chloride Oil - 30% Magnesium to 70% filtered water;
you can: spray this under the tongue (have water handy to chase it down), spray it
all over the body and rub it in, you can soak your feet in a bucket, 1/4 cup of the Mag Oil,
or you can soak in a bathtub, you can also use a bit of the Mag Oil in a nebulizer
and this will get the Magnesium into the lungs. And for a very powerful health
boost, you can add Baking Soda 1 cup to the bath, add 1/2 cup of the Mag Oil
and soak for as long as you can stay in the tub. Baking Soda must be either
Arm & Hammer, or Bob's Redmill (these do contain aluminum)*. Baking Soda
helps to alkalize the blood.
P.S.
Someone just posted an article on ES and Hypocalcemia on the other yahoo ES site-
the symptoms are remarkably similiar!
Remember all: Calcium must have Magnesium to open the cell membrane.
Most are deficient in Magnesium, as the body needs large amounts of Magnesium.
Lizzie
 



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Yes, Marc

the problem is in my son (21 years old) that's ES and he has hypocalcemia (just checked 4.1 mg/100Ml).

It sounds congruent.

In this case, what shall he do ? to add - as has been taking - Calcium supplements for the rest of his life ?

Note: his mother (my wife) is ES, too. She had very big big problems in 2007.

Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> Yes, but I think we've established that EMF can cause calcium
> mobilization and also acidosis, both of which could increase
> tooth decay.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 04:03 PM, Emil at Less EMF Inc wrote:
> > I have not seen this correlation in the research literature.
>




     

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Re: EHS and caries

C.a.b. Johnson
Liz,

Thanks for the many reminders to take Magnesium.  Keep hammering.  It is important.

I could not access www.ancientminerals.com.  Kept getting GoDaddy.

Yes, I have been having ongoing problems with my teeth because of cell tower exposure which is causing:

calcium mobilization
acidosis
battery effect because I have 3 gold crowns
teeth grinding
proliferation of bacteria in mouth from the RH

This is not something to take lightly.  I have been having difficulty getting ahold of these problems. One of my teeth just up and died. It had no cavity, no infeciton and was healthy, but it died and had to be pulled.  The one near it had to be pulled because I wore right through the gold crown from grinding and bacteria got into the tooth.  The teeth are falling like Dominos.  The ongoing patching of cavities is expensive, painful and is wearing down what is left of the tooth.  The financial, emotional and time draining cost of this disease is unbelievalbe!

The brings up the subject of chin pain.  When I get high exposure to RH, I start getting severe pain right under my chin.  Does anybody know what that is all about?  At first I throught it was from the battery effect, then I thought I might be developing Salivary Gland cancer which is one of the problems that often develops with RH exposure.  Then I thought it mnight be my thyroid.  It is weird how localized and how predictable it is.  Always right under my chin and then I know I have had too much exposure. Other people have mentioned it too.  Any ideas?

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee



 


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Giorgio,

Calcium needs MAGNESIUM to work.

Many Magnesium supplements aren't absorbed easily by the body.

This is why the Magnesium Chloride Oil, used transdermally, on the

skin, is a truly excellent way to get Magnesium INTO the body.

When used on the skin, the cells wil absorb the Magnesiium very

quickly.
There are two sources for the Magnesium Chloride Oil.

www.ancientminerals.com and www.thepowermall.com

 

 
 
 



     




     

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Re: iPhone Sales Double

adiaha22
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 Hi Honey,
 
As sad as it may seem to us and as many ill-effects that we encounter or that the news expresses about the down side of microwave technologies, most people don't believe in any of the host effects that science mentions or that we experience.   Why heck, even little children can tolerate cell phone radiation with no problem, right?
 
In fact, you cannot tell them that when they listen to their music or play their silly little games  that they are adding to the unnecessary irradiating of the planet.  They are just on the ride and want to go faster and faster!  People own phones and pads enmasse.  I recently came in contact with a woman in her mid-30's who had come down with onset seizure disorder within the past 2 years. Later I discovered that she owned 3 phones (all were "Assurance" government assistance phones) and had them all plugged in one bedroom where she and her daughter (2 years) mostly resided.  You can't talk to these people.  Look at how many Essers have microwave appliances.  Which is why I classify myself as having microwave intolerance or sickness like the Russians wrote about. 
 
More sadly, many people will continue to be fanatical about their usage unless they too begin to feel the intensity that we feel when exposed to these technologies.  So, how many phones can a living soul own?  I was hoping that the so-called "Great Recession"  would slow things down.  I mean these technologies were not free last that I checked.  But as always, someone has the money to pay.
 
Have any of you encountered new onsets of EHS within the past 2 years?  I have only encountered 2 new onsets since I came down in 2007-08.  So maybe it's not as bad as it seems, only to those of us who have been diminished as a result.

Expect more to come and please keep me posted.  Oh by the way, I just discovered the other day that the Mercola.com site did away with the EHS forum.  That makes me sad.  I don't find that there's enough sources by which we can connect online.
 
Take care,
Pam

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2017322803_apusearnsapple.html

Apple doubles iPhone sales in 1Q

"Apple Inc. on Tuesday said it sold 37 million iPhones in the quarter, double the figure of the previous quarter and more than twice as many as it sold in last year's holiday quarter.

The result may make Apple the world's largest maker of smartphones. Samsung Electronics, which held that position for most of last year, has said it expects to report shipping about 35 million smartphones in the October to December quarter.

October saw the launch of the iPhone 4S, and the addition of Sprint Nextel Corp. as an iPhone carrier in the U.S."

RANT: From the article above, it looks like we are in the BOOM TIMES of
wireless technology.  Unless the casualities keep mounting up and lots
of people protest and complain about the hazards of wireless
technology, there is a good possiblity that the Wireless Industry could
become as powerful as Big Oil Companies are now.  How long until prople
stand up against being RADIATED on a mass scale?

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adiaha22
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Thank you for this in depth report you dear plethora of electrical information.  The link was also awesome.  When did that group start?  Do you know?  That's exactly the type of program that should really emerge in this century.  There are so many revolutions that need to be fought right now.  This is huge.  It's absolutely godless how the medical profession always seems to separate dental reality from overall health reality.  Even though, dental health is one of the elephants in the room.  So much of our health can be tied to our dental health.  The allopathic design is still telling everyone about how flat the world is. Peace. Pam

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Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 4:39 PM



 




Absolutely. For example, silver fillings also contain COPPER and Mercury.
Copper conducts electricity. Galvanism is the battery effect in the mouth..
the metals combined with saliva (electrolytes) combine to make a battery
of literally -live voltage, as in current in the mouth.
Electricity takes the path of least resistance....this means in the case
of metals in the mouth- to the brain. Metals act as antennas for wireless
radiation. So now you have a battery in the mouth, effecting the body's
electrical balance, AND the fillings/dental work acting as antennas,
basically bringing INTO the body the wireless radiation, piggybacking
onto this galvanic process. This results in: actual heating of the metals
and the tissues, causing mercury fumes and vapor to MULITPLY inside
the body, also creating Electrical blockages within the body.....which further
acts to UNGROUND the body. Last effect is minor considering the above-
which is that the oral galvanism process erodes/breaks down the fillings.
I actually felt my brain being HEATED up literally when I had this happen to me.
Back then, I found ONE little measley article on oral galvansim....my dentist
had never heard of it.
The more enlightoned dentist, can take a meter and measure the voltage in fillings.
Silver fillings/ gold/silver crowns...some dental materials contain metals....
this is a disaster when you combine this with wireless radiation.
Also, every tooth corresponds to an organ or area of the body.

Mercury fillings (they call them silver fillings) WILL absolutely destroy
fillings, which can cause more tooth decay, and of course, brings in
lots of repeat business/ revenue/money for dentists who stupidly
continue to use mercury/silver fillings.
Ever hear the saying:"Mad as a Hatter?" Back in the late 1800's, the
people who made those wool/felt hats used Mercury to make the
fabric stiff....mercury of course is highly TOXIC to the body (and
environment) and often made them nuts. Also the phrase
"mercurial rage"...as in mad.
Thankfully, many dentists today are rethinking the use of Mercury/Siver.
Here's a good link.


IAOMT | mercury free dentistry, Mercury Safe Dentists, Fluoride Free ...

www.iaomt.org/
Lizzie

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Subject: [eSens] EHS and caries

Hello !

any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?

anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?

Thanks

Giorgio



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Re: EHS and caries

Elizabeth thode
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Sorry, my mistake. I am so sorry about that.
Oops, forgot about the dash hyphen in between the words.
Below will work, I typed in ancient minerals magnesium chloride oil
and there it was. Thanks for letting me know.
As for Magnesium being important, it is so very important.
Which  is why after trying a bunch of other Mag supplements
that either gave me the D word, or flat out, didn't feel like they
were working, I was happy to have found one that did work.
You know its working when you have a bad leg cramp and
you rub this stuff on, and the leg cramp is gone. You know it is
working when your friend gives it to her elderly grandmother, who
couldn't swallow, not even liquids. And she rubbed this diluted Mag
on her grandma's throat..and within minutes, the old woman could
 swallow liquids and pureed foods. You know its working when used
on someone who is really depressed, and their mood improves. YOu know
its working when you see results, in different people, with different problems-
and the only thing different they did, was this Magnesium Chloride Oil. Also
putting a small amt of DILUTED Magnesium C. Oil, 30% Mag, 70% filtered water,
mixed, sometimes puttting this ON the gum area will help a toothache. Warn ya,
it does NOT taste very good..but if it stops the pain, heals the gum....to me,
I've tasted far worse!
Superdrove,
Below is some interesting info- I don't know if it relates to the chin pain, but it might, as it is very close to the accupunture spot that is a pathway through the body, which energy flows. I do know that radiation/wireless cause electrical blockages; as I have seen this many times. And these blockages can be in different areas of the body, with different people. These blockages sometimes cause outright pain, and other times, you really don't know there's a blockage unless you're rubbing gently on that  particular spot. And the more tender the spot is, the bigger the blockage is. Sometimes I  have to work an area many times a day...to get to where I feel no tenderness in that spot. Sometimes people tell me, OH, I felt that, weird, like something opened up. That is the electrical blockage being opened and allowing the flow of energy to go thru. Sometimes a person will feel an actual vibration like feeling.
 
ST 4 - Dicang

The point known as “dicang” in traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) is referred to in modern acupuncture practice as “ST 4,” because it is the fourth point on the stomach meridian, a pathway through which energy flows in the body. The Chinese name translates to “Earth Granary.” ST 4 is in line with the corner of the mouth, directly below the pupil, and treats several other conditions in addition to Bell’s palsy, including paralysis, toothaches, and symptoms of strokes.  
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 Lizzie



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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:37:30 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: EHS and caries


 



Liz,

Thanks for the many reminders to take Magnesium.  Keep hammering.  It is important.

I could not access www.ancientminerals.com.  Kept getting GoDaddy.

Yes, I have been having ongoing problems with my teeth because of cell tower exposure which is causing:

calcium mobilization
acidosis
battery effect because I have 3 gold crowns
teeth grinding
proliferation of bacteria in mouth from the RH

This is not something to take lightly.  I have been having difficulty getting ahold of these problems. One of my teeth just up and died. It had no cavity, no infeciton and was healthy, but it died and had to be pulled.  The one near it had to be pulled because I wore right through the gold crown from grinding and bacteria got into the tooth.  The teeth are falling like Dominos.  The ongoing patching of cavities is expensive, painful and is wearing down what is left of the tooth.  The financial, emotional and time draining cost of this disease is unbelievalbe!

The brings up the subject of chin pain.  When I get high exposure to RH, I start getting severe pain right under my chin.  Does anybody know what that is all about?  At first I throught it was from the battery effect, then I thought I might be developing Salivary Gland cancer which is one of the problems that often develops with RH exposure.  Then I thought it mnight be my thyroid.  It is weird how localized and how predictable it is.  Always right under my chin and then I know I have had too much exposure. Other people have mentioned it too.  Any ideas?

C. Johnson
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Wireless Refugee

 

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Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: EHS and caries
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Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 6:26 PM

 

Giorgio,

Calcium needs MAGNESIUM to work.

Many Magnesium supplements aren't absorbed easily by the body.

This is why the Magnesium Chloride Oil, used transdermally, on the

skin, is a truly excellent way to get Magnesium INTO the body.

When used on the skin, the cells wil absorb the Magnesiium very

quickly.
There are two sources for the Magnesium Chloride Oil.

www.ancientminerals.com and www.thepowermall.com

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Elizabeth thode
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Your welcome. I know this oral galvansim quite well, as it made me go literally crossed eyed when it happened,
not to mention caused me great pain and disress, and made my life a living hell. The tragedy is, that the battery
effect happens without most people really feeling it, it can be quite subtle and go on for years. I would't be surprised
if it turns out as a common co-factor is ES, because any factor/cause that throws off the body's electrical system
will cause the body to become UNGROUNDED. The more ungrounded we are, the more susceptible we are to ES
and ES causing triggers, like micro wave radiation, dirty electricity, etc.
No metal should ever be placed in the mouth. Just one more barbaric mainstream for profit LIE.
I don't know when that group of dentists began...but I am most grateful they are there.
Lizzie
 



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Thank you for this in depth report you dear plethora of electrical information.  The link was also awesome.  When did that group start?  Do you know?  That's exactly the type of program that should really emerge in this century.  There are so many revolutions that need to be fought right now.  This is huge.  It's absolutely godless how the medical profession always seems to separate dental reality from overall health reality.  Even though, dental health is one of the elephants in the room.  So much of our health can be tied to our dental health.  The allopathic design is still telling everyone about how flat the world is. Peace. Pam

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Subject: RE: [eSens] EHS and caries
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Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 4:39 PM

 

Absolutely. For example, silver fillings also contain COPPER and Mercury.
Copper conducts electricity. Galvanism is the battery effect in the mouth..
the metals combined with saliva (electrolytes) combine to make a battery
of literally -live voltage, as in current in the mouth.
Electricity takes the path of least resistance....this means in the case
of metals in the mouth- to the brain. Metals act as antennas for wireless
radiation. So now you have a battery in the mouth, effecting the body's
electrical balance, AND the fillings/dental work acting as antennas,
basically bringing INTO the body the wireless radiation, piggybacking
onto this galvanic process. This results in: actual heating of the metals
and the tissues, causing mercury fumes and vapor to MULITPLY inside
the body, also creating Electrical blockages within the body.....which further
acts to UNGROUND the body. Last effect is minor considering the above-
which is that the oral galvanism process erodes/breaks down the fillings.
I actually felt my brain being HEATED up literally when I had this happen to me.
Back then, I found ONE little measley article on oral galvansim....my dentist
had never heard of it.
The more enlightoned dentist, can take a meter and measure the voltage in fillings.
Silver fillings/ gold/silver crowns...some dental materials contain metals....
this is a disaster when you combine this with wireless radiation.
Also, every tooth corresponds to an organ or area of the body.

Mercury fillings (they call them silver fillings) WILL absolutely destroy
fillings, which can cause more tooth decay, and of course, brings in
lots of repeat business/ revenue/money for dentists who stupidly
continue to use mercury/silver fillings.
Ever hear the saying:"Mad as a Hatter?" Back in the late 1800's, the
people who made those wool/felt hats used Mercury to make the
fabric stiff....mercury of course is highly TOXIC to the body (and
environment) and often made them nuts. Also the phrase
"mercurial rage"...as in mad.
Thankfully, many dentists today are rethinking the use of Mercury/Siver.
Here's a good link.

IAOMT | mercury free dentistry, Mercury Safe Dentists, Fluoride Free ...

www.iaomt.org/
Lizzie

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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:16:00 +0000
Subject: [eSens] EHS and caries

Hello !

any relation between EMF (RF) and caries (tooth decay) ?

anything related to galvanic current in the mouth ...?

Thanks

Giorgio

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ESther
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Pam,

I started having full-blown ES reactions/symptoms at the beginning of  
2011 when my next door neighbor got a smart meter.  I was disabled for  
20 year before that with CFS and MCS. I had also been sensing the  
increase in RF over the past 10 years or so, because I'm sensitive to  
energies.  The atmosphere seemed "cluttered", and not clear as it had  
felt before.  I thought it must be because of the increase in cell  
phones/towers and wifi, but until I learned about ES and found this  
group, I didn't have confirmation that what I suspected was happening,  
really was!  Unfortunately, now I'm having constant physical symptoms  
with the 24/7 smart meter onslaught, and am not doing very well.

Esther


On Jan 25, 2012, at 2:38 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:

Have any of you encountered new onsets of EHS within the past 2  
years?  I have only encountered 2 new onsets since I came down in  
2007-08.  So maybe it's not as bad as it seems, only to those of us  
who have been diminished as a result.




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Shar Zeefas
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Hi,
We are not yet up to full levels of microwave radiation everywhere, such as the FCC allows. As exposures have been slowly increasing, my illness has developed. Here's how it happened, for what it's worth:
1)      In 2008 I first
noticed ES and microwave sensitivity when using a cell phone would give me a
headache on that side of the head. Before using a cell phone I never had
headaches in my life.
 
2)      Then Wifi became
popular everywhere and I noticed that gave me neurological symptoms, clumsiness
and weak, achy joints, plus dulled thinking and fatigue if I was there long
enough.
 
3)      In our neighborhood we
also had electric and gas radiofrequency transmitting meters that went off a
total of ten times per day (so they said), which may have been a factor in
developing sensitivity.
 
4)      December 2007, I had
an Electro scan by a naturopath with a Vegga machine (where you hold small
metal batteries and a small current is sent through body to try to see what
impedence is and what is going on). After that test, I became extremely
sensitive with full-blown EHS.
 
5)      In March 2010, the
town installed water meters that pulse every 4 seconds into the neighborhood.
Since then I am constantly sick if I spend time at home and must sleep away.
Since then, I also get pressure in my head in the direction of cell towers. You
could blindfold me and this would be accurate (if I did not all ready have too
much exposure to distinguish that one). Cell towers are much worse.
 
6)      When 4G phones came
out I noticed face stiffness, eye pain and difficulty moving my jaw, along with
the typical headache (dulling to thinking ability) that these exposures cause.
I had to leave Christmas Eve church and my child's school events where people
are congregating and have 4G phones on.
cheers,
Charyl Z.

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adiaha22
They do say that it is cumulative.  As I mentioned before, 2007-08 was my tipping point.  I do not drive and for years and years I was walking everywhere with no protection.  Of course at that time, I didn't feel anything other than the regular vibes people carry.  When I got my forsaken cell phone (1.6w/kg) for those who are aware this is the FCC maximum and "good scientists" say that phones only need to be a fraction of that to be effective.  If you go to CNET will  find that my cell phone is still proudly sitting in the #1 worse radiating phone section. 
 
I knew nothing about cell phones until the day came when I didn't have any phone and for obvious reasons a $30 phone seemed like the place to begin.  I never had had any desire to own a cell phone. It was necessity that informed my actions.
 
I'm sure this was only a wake up call seeing that "radiation" was about to take a very dark global turn...
 
Now if you want to consider some really scary stuff, be aware that on March 11, 2011 a tremendous amount of ionizing radiation was released by the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant that have 3 reactors that are still pouring ionizing radiation into the water and it is suggested that there could still be a hydrogen vapor explosion on the horizon.
 
It is suggested that people in the States have already been exposed and scientists believe that up to 20,000 deaths may have already occurred as of 2011.  Who knows.  It sounds farfetched to me (but check this out)... I'm in NJ and a relatively young friend of mine came down feeling ill back in April and just died on January 2 from some rare form of bone marrow cancer.  Then last Friday on January 20, a young friend of mine lost a brother to aplastic anemia which is also a rare bone marrow condition that has been attributed to the exposure of ionizing raditation.  I do not yet have the details a to when he was diagnosed.
 
The website www.tuberose.com which was forwarded by one of our fellow eSens members yesterday has an entire section on the Fukushima catastrophe.  It is very intense, detailed and extremely thorough with many audio and video links.  I advise all interested in our planet to check it out.  This really puts things into perspective.
 
These two events caused me to begin fresh new research.  It's almost too much to rap one's head around all of these assaults by either non-ionizing or ionizing radiations.  Welcome to both the 21st century and the Age of Aquarius (which rules the future and electricity). 
 
It's been foretold that in the future the human population will be tragically reduced.  Well, it certainly isn't a stretch to figure out why that might actually occur.

Now here's the question for the brave at heart...What other illnesses besides cancer, birth defects, aplastic anemia and infertility can be caused by ionizing cesium, sulfur, xenon, plutonium...etc.  And what if any effects will this add to the range of non-ionizing radiation that is currently taking over our world? Anybody dare to dream?  I love this forum.  It's a place of thinkers.  Peace. 
 
Pam
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Subject: [eSens] Re: iPhone Sales Double
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Date: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 11:48 AM



 



Hi,
We are not yet up to full levels of microwave radiation everywhere, such as the FCC allows. As exposures have been slowly increasing, my illness has developed. Here's how it happened, for what it's worth:
1)      In 2008 I first
noticed ES and microwave sensitivity when using a cell phone would give me a
headache on that side of the head. Before using a cell phone I never had
headaches in my life.
 
2)      Then Wifi became
popular everywhere and I noticed that gave me neurological symptoms, clumsiness
and weak, achy joints, plus dulled thinking and fatigue if I was there long
enough.
 
3)      In our neighborhood we
also had electric and gas radiofrequency transmitting meters that went off a
total of ten times per day (so they said), which may have been a factor in
developing sensitivity.
 
4)      December 2007, I had
an Electro scan by a naturopath with a Vegga machine (where you hold small
metal batteries and a small current is sent through body to try to see what
impedence is and what is going on). After that test, I became extremely
sensitive with full-blown EHS.
 
5)      In March 2010, the
town installed water meters that pulse every 4 seconds into the neighborhood.
Since then I am constantly sick if I spend time at home and must sleep away.
Since then, I also get pressure in my head in the direction of cell towers. You
could blindfold me and this would be accurate (if I did not all ready have too
much exposure to distinguish that one). Cell towers are much worse.
 
6)      When 4G phones came
out I noticed face stiffness, eye pain and difficulty moving my jaw, along with
the typical headache (dulling to thinking ability) that these exposures cause.
I had to leave Christmas Eve church and my child's school events where people
are congregating and have 4G phones on.
cheers,
Charyl Z.

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