Dr. Chi's Heavy Metal detox

I have talked to a couple more people about the Q2 and the
aquachimachine for detox and they say if feels great to use them. They
say the major difference is that these machines increase your energy in
order to release the metals vs. the chelators drain you.
I don't have that much experience with chelators and I understand it
can feel pretty bad to kick the mercury up into the system.
I just got an add from herbal healer on another metal flush detox
product. Has anyone tried it?
Andrew


http://www.herbalhealer.com/drchi.html

METAL FLUSH - This is an oral chelating supplement, with NO
side effects. Chelates the heavy metals WITHOUT stripping
essential trace elements. Can safely be used long term and
on children over 5 and the elderly. This is a major
breakthrough for heavy metal chelation. I have been doing
hair analysis for over 18 years now and I can tell you that
heavy metals are a serious problem in children and adults.
Heavy Metal toxicity goes undiagnosed by conventional
medical doctors and is a key contributor to metal
instability, ADD, memory loss, behavior disorders, bipolar,
nerve related illnesses, tremors, chronic rashes,
neuromuscular response, asthma, and much more... Many
people are taking drugs to mask the symptoms and are living
with terrible health conditions when a natural safe
solution is readily available. For instance, high levels
of cadmium (which can be absorbed through the skin from
handling nickel/cadmium rechargeable batteries) can cause
asthma and emphysema because the cadmium is antagonistic to
the enzymes in the main lung alveoli. Now I happen to know
first hand that the cadmium battery link is a fact. My
husband never had asthma in his life. We bought my son a
remote controlled car that used rechargeable nickel/cadmium
batteries. Within 6 months he began wheezing. I had a
hair analysis done and both my son and my husband who had
been handling the batteries on a regular basis had cadmium
poisoning. When this was detoxed, the asthmatic problem
was gone.

Another example is high Copper which is associated with
mental disorders, headaches and premature hair loss. I
want to report here also, that in my 18 years doing hair
analysis, I have found that in over 90% of the breast cancer
patients I have done a hair analysis on, the report has
shown high copper. I do not have any proof at this point
as to where the copper is coming from, but I am suspecting
hair dyes and make-up. A known cause of cooper poisoning
is from using soft water running through copper pipes.

I am very alarmed by the increase in the amount of Aluminum
poisonings that I am now seeing in adults and children.
Six out of ten hair analysis' that I am doing are showing
this. Aluminum is found extensively in the environment
and has also been found to be ubiquitous in air pollution.
Aluminum poisoning is also contracted from long use of
aluminum pots and pans, aluminum can soft drinks, aluminum
in the under arm deodorants and also in the baking soda!
This has been associated extensively with poor mental
function, memory loss, mental depression, and guess what
else? It also weakens the bone matrix! Now, as you can
see by these three examples, not addressing the heavy metal
toxicity issue in the total health picture, is a big
mistake by all healthcare providers regardless of
mainstream allopathic medicine or alternative modalities.
Other heavy metals of great concern are lead (batteries,
paint), mercury (found in fillings), barium (air pollution),
tellurium (additive in gasoline).

With a hair analysis the lab is testing for high levels
and low levels of 35 minerals and toxic metals.
Deficiencies in minerals can also cause serious health
issues, so it is important to know if minerals are lacking.
You can read about the hair analysis here:
http://www.herbalhealer.com/hairanalysis.html

STUDIES DONE IN CHINA
1992 - 110 patients from Tenjin vocational hospital in
China with lead poisoning were given the Chinese herbal
medicine on an empty stomach for four weeks. After 28 days,
107 patients showed a remarkable reduction and a 97.3%
effectiveness rate. 1991 Children's Study - Study was
conducted at Guangdong Weiliang Yuanse Kexue on 68 children
ranging from 3 to 12. In the study, the lead content was
0.24 ug/mL. Normally, it should not exceed .1 ug/mL. At
this level, children start to experience one or more
symptoms associated with lead poisoning such as loss of
appetite, hyperactivity, irregular sleeping habits, and
irritability. After just two weeks treatment with
traditional Chinese herbal formula, their average lead
content had dropped to .12 ug/mL.
Another study was done on 50 patients from a thermometer
company who suffered mercury poisoning. Average amount of
mercury was initially .428 umol/L and after only four weeks
the average level had decreased to .230 umol/L. I will
send copies of these and other studies done out with every
bottle of Metal Flush.

Since this product is so safe, it can be recommended for
people that have not actually been diagnosed with heavy
metal toxicity. Daily exposure to heavy metals in the
environment can cause them to slowly build up in the body.
You see that is the problem with heavy metals. They don't
go through the body, they accumulate over time. In my
opinion, it is important to chelate the heavy metals at
least once a year and with this product that is very easy.

Here are two testimonials sent to us by Dr. Chi on the
Metal Flush product.
G. S, - DC from CA, reports on an 80 year old female
patient who had memory loss and dementia. Her hair
analysis revealed aluminum level 14 ppm (normal <8). She
took Metal Flush, Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract. Three
months aluminum levels dropped below 8.

A.B., 50 year old female with extremely high levels of metal
in system. She had 20 EDTA IV and 20 DMPS IV treatments
with no improvement and terrible side effects. She took
Metal Flush, Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract. After 5
months aluminum levels fell from 140 to 59, arsenic from
92 to 50, cadmium from 2.4 to 1.7, mercury from 13 to 1.5,
nickel from 61 to 7.5.

The reason that the Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract are
also recommended in severe cases is because Vein Lite helps
remove toxins from the blood stream and the Asparagus
Extract helps the kidneys flush them out quickly. So the
three work very well together. This is not necessary
unless heavy metal toxicity is known to be very high.

Difference between Metal Flush and HHA Formula One with Edta.
Our Formula One with Edta is very strong and it will pull
out essential minerals, that is why we always recommend the
Colloidal Minerals be taken in the evening when using this
product. HHA Formula One with Edta is invaluable with its
ability to not only reduce most heavy metals, but it also
reduces arterial plaque, which is a major contributor to
heart attacks in this country. Metal Flush is for detoxing
metals only and there is no need to use a mineral supplement
with this product. As you can see by the cases above Metal
Flush seems to work very fast, so two months should be a
good time line in most cases.

METAL FLUSH: Ingredients: Glechoma longituba Kupr, Smilax
glabra Roxb, Allium salivum L, Glycyrrhiza uralensis Fisch,
Chaenomeles lagenaria koidz, Rheum palmatum L., Sargassum
jusitorme Setch. No animal products, no preservatives, no
yeast - all natural. Adult Dose: 3 capsules 3 times a day.
For smaller children and elderly dose must be reduced by
weight. If you have any questions you can e-mail Ask The
Naturopath on Wed. METAL FLUSH - Cost - 120 capsules -
$40.00 - Buy 3 at $36.00 each. - Buy 6 at $32.00 each.

> The reason that the Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract are
> also recommended in severe cases is because Vein Lite helps
> remove toxins from the blood stream

I like the sound of the Vein Lite, so I just ordered a bottle
to try out. I have no difficulty at all in mobilizing toxins
into my bloodstream (I have several EMF devices which do that
almost immediately)... it's getting them out of my body that's
the big problem!

Marc

Metal Flush mentions "no side effects".

I haven't seen a single product that is able to remove mercury without any
symptoms, despite many products claiming that they completely encapsulate
and remove mercury without redistribution. I don't believe there ever will
be a product with no side effects, just by the nature of mercury.

The product looks interesting & will checkout further.

Glenn

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:18:41 -0500

I have talked to a couple more people about the Q2 and the
aquachimachine for detox and they say if feels great to use them. They
say the major difference is that these machines increase your energy in
order to release the metals vs. the chelators drain you.
I don't have that much experience with chelators and I understand it
can feel pretty bad to kick the mercury up into the system.
I just got an add from herbal healer on another metal flush detox
product. Has anyone tried it?
Andrew


http://www.herbalhealer.com/drchi.html

METAL FLUSH - This is an oral chelating supplement, with NO
side effects. Chelates the heavy metals WITHOUT stripping
essential trace elements. Can safely be used long term and
on children over 5 and the elderly. This is a major
breakthrough for heavy metal chelation. I have been doing
hair analysis for over 18 years now and I can tell you that
heavy metals are a serious problem in children and adults.
Heavy Metal toxicity goes undiagnosed by conventional
medical doctors and is a key contributor to metal
instability, ADD, memory loss, behavior disorders, bipolar,
nerve related illnesses, tremors, chronic rashes,
neuromuscular response, asthma, and much more... Many
people are taking drugs to mask the symptoms and are living
with terrible health conditions when a natural safe
solution is readily available. For instance, high levels
of cadmium (which can be absorbed through the skin from
handling nickel/cadmium rechargeable batteries) can cause
asthma and emphysema because the cadmium is antagonistic to
the enzymes in the main lung alveoli. Now I happen to know
first hand that the cadmium battery link is a fact. My
husband never had asthma in his life. We bought my son a
remote controlled car that used rechargeable nickel/cadmium
batteries. Within 6 months he began wheezing. I had a
hair analysis done and both my son and my husband who had
been handling the batteries on a regular basis had cadmium
poisoning. When this was detoxed, the asthmatic problem
was gone.

Another example is high Copper which is associated with
mental disorders, headaches and premature hair loss. I
want to report here also, that in my 18 years doing hair
analysis, I have found that in over 90% of the breast cancer
patients I have done a hair analysis on, the report has
shown high copper. I do not have any proof at this point
as to where the copper is coming from, but I am suspecting
hair dyes and make-up. A known cause of cooper poisoning
is from using soft water running through copper pipes.

I am very alarmed by the increase in the amount of Aluminum
poisonings that I am now seeing in adults and children.
Six out of ten hair analysis' that I am doing are showing
this. Aluminum is found extensively in the environment
and has also been found to be ubiquitous in air pollution.
Aluminum poisoning is also contracted from long use of
aluminum pots and pans, aluminum can soft drinks, aluminum
in the under arm deodorants and also in the baking soda!
This has been associated extensively with poor mental
function, memory loss, mental depression, and guess what
else? It also weakens the bone matrix! Now, as you can
see by these three examples, not addressing the heavy metal
toxicity issue in the total health picture, is a big
mistake by all healthcare providers regardless of
mainstream allopathic medicine or alternative modalities.
Other heavy metals of great concern are lead (batteries,
paint), mercury (found in fillings), barium (air pollution),
tellurium (additive in gasoline).

With a hair analysis the lab is testing for high levels
and low levels of 35 minerals and toxic metals.
Deficiencies in minerals can also cause serious health
issues, so it is important to know if minerals are lacking.
You can read about the hair analysis here:
http://www.herbalhealer.com/hairanalysis.html

STUDIES DONE IN CHINA
1992 - 110 patients from Tenjin vocational hospital in
China with lead poisoning were given the Chinese herbal
medicine on an empty stomach for four weeks. After 28 days,
107 patients showed a remarkable reduction and a 97.3%
effectiveness rate. 1991 Children's Study - Study was
conducted at Guangdong Weiliang Yuanse Kexue on 68 children
ranging from 3 to 12. In the study, the lead content was
0.24 ug/mL. Normally, it should not exceed .1 ug/mL. At
this level, children start to experience one or more
symptoms associated with lead poisoning such as loss of
appetite, hyperactivity, irregular sleeping habits, and
irritability. After just two weeks treatment with
traditional Chinese herbal formula, their average lead
content had dropped to .12 ug/mL.
Another study was done on 50 patients from a thermometer
company who suffered mercury poisoning. Average amount of
mercury was initially .428 umol/L and after only four weeks
the average level had decreased to .230 umol/L. I will
send copies of these and other studies done out with every
bottle of Metal Flush.

Since this product is so safe, it can be recommended for
people that have not actually been diagnosed with heavy
metal toxicity. Daily exposure to heavy metals in the
environment can cause them to slowly build up in the body.
You see that is the problem with heavy metals. They don't
go through the body, they accumulate over time. In my
opinion, it is important to chelate the heavy metals at
least once a year and with this product that is very easy.

Here are two testimonials sent to us by Dr. Chi on the
Metal Flush product.
G. S, - DC from CA, reports on an 80 year old female
patient who had memory loss and dementia. Her hair
analysis revealed aluminum level 14 ppm (normal <8). She
took Metal Flush, Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract. Three
months aluminum levels dropped below 8.

A.B., 50 year old female with extremely high levels of metal
in system. She had 20 EDTA IV and 20 DMPS IV treatments
with no improvement and terrible side effects. She took
Metal Flush, Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract. After 5
months aluminum levels fell from 140 to 59, arsenic from
92 to 50, cadmium from 2.4 to 1.7, mercury from 13 to 1.5,
nickel from 61 to 7.5.

The reason that the Vein Lite and Asparagus Extract are
also recommended in severe cases is because Vein Lite helps
remove toxins from the blood stream and the Asparagus
Extract helps the kidneys flush them out quickly. So the
three work very well together. This is not necessary
unless heavy metal toxicity is known to be very high.

Difference between Metal Flush and HHA Formula One with Edta.
Our Formula One with Edta is very strong and it will pull
out essential minerals, that is why we always recommend the
Colloidal Minerals be taken in the evening when using this
product. HHA Formula One with Edta is invaluable with its
ability to not only reduce most heavy metals, but it also
reduces arterial plaque, which is a major contributor to
heart attacks in this country. Metal Flush is for detoxing
metals only and there is no need to use a mineral supplement
with this product. As you can see by the cases above Metal
Flush seems to work very fast, so two months should be a
good time line in most cases.

METAL FLUSH: Ingredients: Glechoma longituba Kupr, Smilax
glabra Roxb, Allium salivum L, Glycyrrhiza uralensis Fisch,
Chaenomeles lagenaria koidz, Rheum palmatum L., Sargassum
jusitorme Setch. No animal products, no preservatives, no
yeast - all natural. Adult Dose: 3 capsules 3 times a day.
For smaller children and elderly dose must be reduced by
weight. If you have any questions you can e-mail Ask The
Naturopath on Wed. METAL FLUSH - Cost - 120 capsules -
$40.00 - Buy 3 at $36.00 each. - Buy 6 at $32.00 each.

> I haven't seen a single product that is able to remove mercury without
> any symptoms

I've tried a few which haven't been so bad -- CLNZ is pretty tolerable,
as is Seagreens.

http://www.systemicformulas.com/challeg.html#clnz
http://www.sea-health.com/nfh.htm

Seagreens has the added benefit of improving my ES symptoms while
taking it.

But as with most things, they aren't so bad as long as you
DON'T OVERDO IT!

Marc

Hi Marc,
How successful have these products been in reducing your mercury
levels?
Also re your earlier message about getting it out of the body, have
you tried saunas or steam rooms? I hear that mercury is largely
excreted through sweat. I definitely noticed a big improvement in
brain symptoms when I used both on one occasion about a year ago.
Unfortunately I thought I was 'better' and then went out and took an
ecstasy pill which was very stupid. That aside, I really did feel the
sweating got rid of a lot of brain toxicity.
Anne

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
> > I haven't seen a single product that is able to remove mercury
without
> > any symptoms
>
> I've tried a few which haven't been so bad -- CLNZ is pretty
tolerable,

> How successful have these products been in reducing your mercury
> levels?

Well, I haven't done a whole lot of blood/urine/hair analyses,
so I can't give you any conclusive numbers. I can say that
I'm *much* healthier than I was when I started this 3 years
ago. And according to my nutritionist, who tests me with
homeopathic vials of mercury to tell where and how much
mercury is left, it's only a problem in my thyroid and
brain right now.

Personally, I really like Seagreens, and probably would be
taking it daily if it wasn't for the fact that my nutritionist
keeps insisting that I don't need it.

I also think that the Springlife Polarizers are giving me
enough energy to detox this stuff out on an everyday basis,
although the problem with energetic-based solutions is that
they seem to be good at mobilizing toxins from your cells,
but in the end your liver and kidneys have to be able to
handle and process what's coming out into the bloodstream.
And you can only do that so fast. That's why I'm interested
in foods and supplements that will bind to toxins in the
bloodstream, but not mobilize anything stored away in the
cells.

> Also re your earlier message about getting it out of the body, have
> you tried saunas or steam rooms?

All I've noticed is that they clear up my allergies, make
my skin temporarily look better, and warm me up. Nothing more.
But yes, I do use these on a regular basis, but I had mostly
recovered from brain problems before I started. (and I took a
LOT of NDF prior to this, which specifically targets brain mercury)

Marc

Thanks Marc,
I believe liver and kidney cleanses help get metals out of the
system. I did a 2 week kidney cleanse a few months back and
definitely noticed an improvement. I used the herbs Andreas Moritz
recommends for kidney cleansing....he says they help a bit to get
metals out. Overall though the diet needs to be alkaline.
I'm going to order an slimline OM pendant next week so will let you
know how I get on! Linda Townsend said my bioenergy stage was
4/3....how does she work that out?! Intuition? I've sent an e-mail
asking her, but no reply yet.
Anne

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote: have
> > you tried saunas or steam rooms?
>
> All I've noticed is that they clear up my allergies, make
> my skin temporarily look better, and warm me up. Nothing more.
> But yes, I do use these on a regular basis, but I had mostly
> recovered from brain problems before I started. (and I took a
> LOT of NDF prior to this, which specifically targets brain mercury)
>
> Marc

> I believe liver and kidney cleanses help get metals out of the
> system.

Yes, I did some of those cleanses years ago, and they did seem
to help a little, but of course they're not going to help
brain & thyroid mercury!

> I'm going to order an slimline OM pendant next week so will let you
> know how I get on! Linda Townsend said my bioenergy stage was
> 4/3....how does she work that out?! Intuition?

There are a lot of alternative medicine/healing disciplines which
can be done "remotely". Reiki, for example. I assume that she
has some way of testing remotely as well. When I first enountered
Linda, she said that I was about as bad as anyone she'd ever tested
(stage 5 phase C). Apparently, my EMF solutions prior to the
Springlife Polarizers were merely suppressing my healing mechanisms,
so that I wouldn't feel bad from the detox.

Marc

Hi Marc,
What I meant was combining chelators (which will help move mercury
out of the brain and other organs) into the lymph, then blood with
strong liver, kidney and colon support (which will help get mercury
out of the body). I've not tried this myself though as I've never
taken a proper chelator apart from recently with the supplement with
ALA in it. That was to help with memory, I didn't know the ALA would
chelate.
Interesting about Linda using remote diagnosis, I'm not sure I
believe in that, but I'm open-minded! I'm looking forward to my
slimline OM pendant arriving :)
BTW do you happen to know if the waves from personal CD stereos
(either through the mains or batteries) can be harmful (through the
headphones)?
Thanks!
Anne

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > I believe liver and kidney cleanses help get metals out of the
> > system.
>
> Yes, I did some of those cleanses years ago, and they did seem
> to help a little, but of course they're not going to help
> brain & thyroid mercury!
>
> > I'm going to order an slimline OM pendant next week so will let
you

> What I meant was combining chelators (which will help move mercury
> out of the brain and other organs) into the lymph, then blood with
> strong liver, kidney and colon support (which will help get mercury
> out of the body).

Yes, you certainly can combine chelation with organ support, but
the combination & dosage can be tricky, so you may need to get
someone else's help in figuring things out (e.g, EAV testing,
muscle testing). I have found that my own research and rational
mind has failed me in figuring such things out.

Also, I'm a believer in taking multiple chelators ONE AT A TIME.
I think each chelator has its strong points, in that they
are good at getting rid of certain toxins from certain parts
of the body. So variety would help get rid of more stuff
overall in the end.

> BTW do you happen to know if the waves from personal CD stereos
> (either through the mains or batteries) can be harmful (through the
> headphones)?

I get sharp pains in my head when using headphones, so I would
think that this could be harmful to folks. Although this
only has been in the past several years -- I used to listen
to headphones a lot without problems...

Marc

Thanks Marc :)

Yes I would think it is *very* tricky to get the dosage right in
doing all that, and perhaps not worth the risk. Also I'm not even
totally sure I totally trust muscle testing/kinesiologists as I've
had both good and bad experiences of them. Maybe EAV would be better.

That's a shame about the headphones, a friend has just sent me some
great tapes to relax or focus to and you're supposed to listen with a
headset.....though I don't get headaches, my thinking gets a little
muddled. I wasn't sure whether it was the headset or not, or if I was
imagining it and wanted to see if anyone else has had -ve effects
from these.

Anne

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
> > What I meant was combining chelators (which will help move
mercury
> > out of the brain and other organs) into the lymph, then blood
with
> > strong liver, kidney and colon support (which will help get
mercury the
> > headphones)?
>
> I get sharp pains in my head when using headphones, so I would
> think that this could be harmful to folks. Although this
> only has been in the past several years -- I used to listen
> to headphones a lot without problems...
>
> Marc

> Also I'm not even totally sure I totally trust muscle
> testing/kinesiologists as I've had both good and bad
> experiences of them. Maybe EAV would be better.

Based on my own experiences with multiple practitioners,
I don't totally believe either EAV or muscle testing.
Certainly I've had many adverse reactions to things
which tested "good" for me. But on the other hand,
I place even less faith in medical testing results
or "cookbook" approaches that are supposed to work
for everyone.

So in the end, I use EAV and muscle testing as a
"second opinion" to my own instincts. Also, the
practitioner I'm using now is a good counter-balance
to my own tendencies -- I typically do too many
things at once, and she typically thinks I should
as little as I can get away with. So the end
result is a good compromise between the two.

Marc

RE: Headphones causing head pain, one thing I've noticed & read about is
that symtoms of ES and/or mercury poisoning can cause hypersensitivity to
many things. From smells, substances, noises, etc.. So you may be having a
hypersensitive reaction to the headphones, which may go away as you get to
know your ES better & adjust your life (diet, supplements, therapies, etc.).

That has been my experience in the hypersensitivities I had to smells and
noise, which I am no longer sensitive after 6 months of discovery &
treatments.

Regards,

Glenn

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:53:46 -0000


Thanks Marc :)

Yes I would think it is *very* tricky to get the dosage right in
doing all that, and perhaps not worth the risk. Also I'm not even
totally sure I totally trust muscle testing/kinesiologists as I've
had both good and bad experiences of them. Maybe EAV would be better.

That's a shame about the headphones, a friend has just sent me some
great tapes to relax or focus to and you're supposed to listen with a
headset.....though I don't get headaches, my thinking gets a little
muddled. I wasn't sure whether it was the headset or not, or if I was
imagining it and wanted to see if anyone else has had -ve effects
from these.

Anne

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
> > What I meant was combining chelators (which will help move
mercury
> > out of the brain and other organs) into the lymph, then blood
with
> > strong liver, kidney and colon support (which will help get
mercury the
> > headphones)?
>
> I get sharp pains in my head when using headphones, so I would
> think that this could be harmful to folks. Although this
> only has been in the past several years -- I used to listen
> to headphones a lot without problems...
>
> Marc

Hope it is ok i reply here:

Try developing kinesiologistics for yourself. The ok sign, that is
international i hope, thumb and forefinger. Closed is yes open is
no, for me. Intuition, or straightknowledge is very important and
you can develop it yourself. Works all the time, with medicines,
healers people. Reduces fear, and wavering, which is important.

To Light alone I bow!! Love, Ellen

[hidden email], "Marc

Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
> > Also I'm not even totally sure I totally trust muscle
> > testing/kinesiologists as I've had both good and bad
> > experiences of them. Maybe EAV would

--- In be better.

> Try developing kinesiologistics for yourself. The ok sign, that is
> international i hope, thumb and forefinger. Closed is yes open is
> no, for me. Intuition, or straightknowledge is very important and
> you can develop it yourself. Works all the time

I've been doing this for years, but I cannot say that it "works all
the time". I think my personal biases or desires for a certain
answer get in the way of the "real" answer.

Marc