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Doing an EMF survey for someone correctly - how?

R. Ticle
Hey everyone,

We have access to a Trifield 100XE, and two Gigahertz Solutions meters for RF, covering a range of 800 MHz to 6.0 GHz. Oh, and a body voltage meter.

Now, I'm quite comfortable using these meters to gauge a particular location for my own tolerances; I know what I'm comfortable with or not, and have always based that on the equipment with which I'm familiar.

However, my father may be doing a small, payed EMR survey of someone's house, soon. I think the Gigahertz solutions meters are quite accurate for their price, without going into very expensive high end equipment. I think the body voltage meter is fine, too.

The Trifield is what I'm a bit unsure about. I once compared it to a Gigahertz brand Gauss Meter, and the Trifield showed considerably higher readings for magnetic fields than the Gigahertz meter. Would someone mind explaining to me again the discrepancy between these two?
I think Bill Bruno said that the Trifield's magnetic setting also takes into account higher frequencies above the standard 50/60 Hz AC that the Gigahertz is calibrated for, hence the higher readings...something like that, butI can't quite recall clearly.

How does this translate to accuracy, if we're giving someone a measurement and caution based on that measurement of magnetic fields using the Trifield100XE?

Also, what are your opinions of the accuracy of the Trifield 100XE's electrical field readings? I know that the meter made by Gigahertz Solutions has to be grounded to read electrical fields, and because I've always used a Trifield, that's what I base my readings on; its familiarity, but it makes meconcerned about accurate reporting to someone who's unaccustomed to this sort of thing.

Now, for measuring RF, my method is basically point and shoot and sweep through rooms and outdoor areas to determine overall levels, and find sources of hotspots/direct radiation. I always have the meter set to "Peak" ratherthan "Average" mode for greater accuracy, and frequently use the audio analysis. I find this works well for me, but are there any additional techniques my father should take into account during a survey?

(We're not trained Building Biologists, and haven't got any other gear, butwould like to do a good job).

I am thinking of comparing what my father finds at this place to the Bau Biologie guidelines. Sound good?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

R.

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BiBrun
The Trifield is supposed to read double for 120 Hz, triple for 180 Hz, etc.,

and this makes sense biologically to me (but not to everyone). I think
it has some sensitivity all the way up to 100kHz, but the response starts
to decline well before that.

I think the body voltage meter is irrelevant. Electric field reading much
more
informative. Also, you need an AM radio too. A loose wire, dimmer switch,
dirty power generators will show up on AM but not on your other meters.
Or get one of the GS meters that goes down to 27 MHz. Even then, the
radio would come in handy. Or get this
http://lessemf.com/rf2.html#431

I haven't tried it, but it should do the trick.
Bill


On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM, rticleone <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> We have access to a Trifield 100XE, and two Gigahertz Solutions meters for
> RF, covering a range of 800 MHz to 6.0 GHz. Oh, and a body voltage meter.
>
> Now, I'm quite comfortable using these meters to gauge a particular
> location for my own tolerances; I know what I'm comfortable with or not, and
> have always based that on the equipment with which I'm familiar.
>
> However, my father may be doing a small, payed EMR survey of someone's
> house, soon. I think the Gigahertz solutions meters are quite accurate for
> their price, without going into very expensive high end equipment. I think
> the body voltage meter is fine, too.
>
> The Trifield is what I'm a bit unsure about. I once compared it to a
> Gigahertz brand Gauss Meter, and the Trifield showed considerably higher
> readings for magnetic fields than the Gigahertz meter. Would someone mind
> explaining to me again the discrepancy between these two?
> I think Bill Bruno said that the Trifield's magnetic setting also takes
> into account higher frequencies above the standard 50/60 Hz AC that the
> Gigahertz is calibrated for, hence the higher readings...something like
> that, but I can't quite recall clearly.
>
> How does this translate to accuracy, if we're giving someone a measurement
> and caution based on that measurement of magnetic fields using the Trifield
> 100XE?
>
> Also, what are your opinions of the accuracy of the Trifield 100XE's
> electrical field readings? I know that the meter made by Gigahertz Solutions
> has to be grounded to read electrical fields, and because I've always used a
> Trifield, that's what I base my readings on; its familiarity, but it makes
> me concerned about accurate reporting to someone who's unaccustomed to this
> sort of thing.
>
> Now, for measuring RF, my method is basically point and shoot and sweep
> through rooms and outdoor areas to determine overall levels, and find
> sources of hotspots/direct radiation. I always have the meter set to "Peak"
> rather than "Average" mode for greater accuracy, and frequently use the
> audio analysis. I find this works well for me, but are there any additional
> techniques my father should take into account during a survey?
>
> (We're not trained Building Biologists, and haven't got any other gear, but
> would like to do a good job).
>
> I am thinking of comparing what my father finds at this place to the Bau
> Biologie guidelines. Sound good?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> R.
>
>
>


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BiBrun
I haven't read this but at least this guy has good meters...
http://www.eiwellspring.org/HowToMeasureEMF.htm

Bill

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The Trifield is supposed to read double for 120 Hz, triple for 180 Hz,
> etc.,
> and this makes sense biologically to me (but not to everyone). I think
> it has some sensitivity all the way up to 100kHz, but the response starts
> to decline well before that.
>
> I think the body voltage meter is irrelevant. Electric field reading much
> more
> informative. Also, you need an AM radio too. A loose wire, dimmer switch,
> dirty power generators will show up on AM but not on your other meters.
> Or get one of the GS meters that goes down to 27 MHz. Even then, the
> radio would come in handy. Or get this
> http://lessemf.com/rf2.html#431
>
> I haven't tried it, but it should do the trick.
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM, rticleone <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> We have access to a Trifield 100XE, and two Gigahertz Solutions meters for
>> RF, covering a range of 800 MHz to 6.0 GHz. Oh, and a body voltage meter.
>>
>> Now, I'm quite comfortable using these meters to gauge a particular
>> location for my own tolerances; I know what I'm comfortable with or not, and
>> have always based that on the equipment with which I'm familiar.
>>
>> However, my father may be doing a small, payed EMR survey of someone's
>> house, soon. I think the Gigahertz solutions meters are quite accurate for
>> their price, without going into very expensive high end equipment. I think
>> the body voltage meter is fine, too.
>>
>> The Trifield is what I'm a bit unsure about. I once compared it to a
>> Gigahertz brand Gauss Meter, and the Trifield showed considerably higher
>> readings for magnetic fields than the Gigahertz meter. Would someone mind
>> explaining to me again the discrepancy between these two?
>> I think Bill Bruno said that the Trifield's magnetic setting also takes
>> into account higher frequencies above the standard 50/60 Hz AC that the
>> Gigahertz is calibrated for, hence the higher readings...something like
>> that, but I can't quite recall clearly.
>>
>> How does this translate to accuracy, if we're giving someone a measurement
>> and caution based on that measurement of magnetic fields using the Trifield
>> 100XE?
>>
>> Also, what are your opinions of the accuracy of the Trifield 100XE's
>> electrical field readings? I know that the meter made by Gigahertz Solutions
>> has to be grounded to read electrical fields, and because I've always used a
>> Trifield, that's what I base my readings on; its familiarity, but it makes
>> me concerned about accurate reporting to someone who's unaccustomed to this
>> sort of thing.
>>
>> Now, for measuring RF, my method is basically point and shoot and sweep
>> through rooms and outdoor areas to determine overall levels, and find
>> sources of hotspots/direct radiation. I always have the meter set to "Peak"
>> rather than "Average" mode for greater accuracy, and frequently use the
>> audio analysis. I find this works well for me, but are there any additional
>> techniques my father should take into account during a survey?
>>
>> (We're not trained Building Biologists, and haven't got any other gear,
>> but would like to do a good job).
>>
>> I am thinking of comparing what my father finds at this place to the Bau
>> Biologie guidelines. Sound good?
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> R.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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