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Dog microchips

fizzyhead
Just checking before I get my dog microchipped that there are no hidden nasties. From what I gather these chips are completely inert until the scanner passes over them?

Just as a side note please be aware that the modern hearing aid devices often contain bluetooth now. Before my elderly mum comes to visit she has to remove her new hearing aids and put the old ones in!
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Fog Top
I wouldn't microchip my pets as I have read of these resulting in malignant tumors at the implant site and ensuing lawsuits against the manufacturers.  Also, some pets are EMF sensitive but are unable to tell us.
One of my dogs became ill at the same time that i did after a smart meter was placed on my home.
 https://thebark.com/content/danger-microchips

Most digital hearing aids being sold now have Bluetooth.  Often, the hearing aid dealer will say that there is no way to disable this.  Costco, which sells huge amounts of aids, reprogrammed my husband's aid, telling us that Bluetooth had been disabled.  However, a Safe & Sound Pro II EMF meter showed that it was still strongly present.  So then they claimed that it was impossible to disable the wireless.

We contacted the manufacturer's technical support who was willing to help, but of course could not understand how we knew it was still enabled, and my telling him that I could "feel" it went nowhere!  So we held the aid and EMF meter up to the phone and turned it on and off.  The meter sounded out the Bluetooth pulsed signal when the hearing aid came on.  Upon hearing that, he then asked for the aids to be returned to him.  He then had us follow through after they were sent back to us because he wanted to know if the wireless was turned off.
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Fog Top
Forgot to add that he was successful at turning the Bluetooth off!
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fizzyhead
That's interesting. I can definitely feel the Bluetooth from the devices too. My mum hasn't been well recently and I wondered if her hearing aids are contributing to the extreme exhaustion. The crazy thing is she can hear better with the old ones! I didn't know the Bluetooth could be disabled on them and will have to look into it.

Thanks for the link re:dog microchipping too.

How do you rate the safe & sound Pro monitor? Have been looking into getting one.
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Marc Martin
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I definitely need hearing aids, and have tried several.  All of them are problematic for me from an EMF standpoint, and the ones with Bluetooth are definitely the worst.  But even the ones that don't have Bluetooth in them are also bad.  I mean, there is a battery, a microphone, and a speaker at your ear, what do you expect.  :-)

So far I've just settled on wearing them only when really needed (which isn't much), and only wearing them in one ear (the ear with the worst hearing), and wearing a model that doesn't have any Bluetooth in it to start with (Eargo Neo -- none of the Eargo hearing aids have Bluetooth in them, although the charging cases have Bluetooth.  And I fixed that by buying a used charging case on eBay where the Bluetooth was broken).
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fizzyhead
Thanks for the info on the aids available. Honestly I feel for you having to wear them!
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Karl
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I'm 99% sure they are passive. From the AKC:

"There’s no battery, no power required, and no moving parts."

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/lifestyle/how-do-dog-microchips-work/
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Fog Top
AKC is a big promoter of the chips and probably the technical info they have has been filtered by the manufacturer.

Something about these is causing a rise in the tumors at the site of the implant:
https://veteriankey.com/microchip-induced-tumors-in-laboratory-rodents-and-dogs/
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Fog Top
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Even my non-transmitting hearing aids are problematic for me also, but my hearing loss is severe and to the  point that I cannot function in society without them.  My doctor says I'm a candidate for cochlear implant, but that looks like an EMF nightmare with the wiring implanted inside the head.

I was in Costco buying a 48-pack of batteries which normally last me for about 6 months or more, and a girl there with a cochlear implant told me that she goes through 8 batteries a day for her device.  I can only imagine what wearing a device consuming that kind of power would feel like.
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Fog Top
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Fizzy - I give the Safe & Sound Pro II EMF meter very high points.  I own a Gigahertz Solutions HF35C, a Cornet - not sure which model, and the Safe & Sound.

To me the Cornet (model?? - can't locate it at the moment) - is a bit of a joke as it misses so much.  I do understand that there are some Cornet models which are more sensitive and some are able to indicate what frequency is being measured - mine is not that one.

HF35C is good, but misses frequencies below 800 MHz.  I think its range is 800 MHz - 2400 MHz.  It is very directional and great for checking when attempting to shield from antennas.  It's strange looking and draws a lot of attention when using it in public.  It puts out the sound of the unique signal being transmitted, and a website is provided so that the sound of each device can be matched.  It really amazed me at first that I was able to strongly pick up the transmission of those cordless home phones a block away.

The Safe & Sound Pro is easy to use, very sensitive, has sound, and measures signals from 200 MHz- 8 GHz.  I use it all the time and don't get the stares when using it in public places.
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fizzyhead
Thanks for all your input everyone. Its amazing the helpful information I have picked up on this forum!

Fogtop I was trying to decide between the safe & sound Pro and the HF35C so your advice is great. The company I am ordering it off does a deal where you can hire for 6 weeks for £35, although you have to pay out £400 for it, then they give you the difference when it is returned (undamaged).

I need to identify wireless trackers and wifi network on neighbour's modern cars, Dect, 5G, wifi boosters. I dont think it will pick up on Army radar as am pretty sure their system goes above 8Ghz.
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Cassy0110
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My cat got microchipped and yes chips are completely inert.
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kjgartner
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When money is tight and all you need is reliable detection of RF without quantifying it numerically, the Safe and Sound II Pro has a little brother called Safe and Sound Classic II.  The former costs around $400 and the latter is closer to $160.  Both have identical sensitivity and sound, just one has quality numerical and the other has color-coded scale.  The Classic is tiny in size and can be discretely used anywhere without making a fuss.

In a household which tries to maintain a 'Zero RF' policy (as much as possible) with an electrically sensitive family member then having the SS Pro II *is* worth the $400, especially if one runs it from the USB connection 24/7.  This has repeatedly provided a reasonable explanation to the mystery of whether there was an RF impingement leading to a bout of tinnitus.  In our house, we go for hours with the maximum value never rising about 1.0 microwatts per square meter.

As discussed above, hearing aids can be a challenge and we have asked guests to power theirs off during a visit.  Note that all modern hearing aids, I believe, emit 10-13 MHz signals as part of their synchronization and these are not detected by the consumer RF meters like SSPro or Cornet.
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Ellen
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Regarding the dog microchips:  I don't think the microchips being passive eliminates the problem, as they are antennas and there is so much RF everywhere, they will constantly be activated on some level,  either fully or partially. This likely explains the site tumor incidence.   Ellen