Dirty Electricity created by an inverter air conditioning unit - Advice please

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Dirty Electricity created by an inverter air conditioning unit - Advice please

Smithy73
I wonder if I could get some advise please.
We live in the mountains near the Valencia coast in Spain, Originally from the UK.
When we bought the house the main source of heating other than a log burner is a diesel furnace.
We have just had 3 room air conditioning units installed which included heat source pumps as these are the most cost effective ways of heating here. We have a big open plan, double height living area which is hard to heat via radiators, so a large unit was installed here... The two smaller Mitsubishi units were installed in the main bedroom and the office. With all three on the house has never been so warm and the unit are able to also heat the adjourning bathrooms and hallway etc...
So bliss you would think.
The Mitsubishi units are great, we had the first one fitted in the summer in the bedroom and although it has the words inverter all over it, it creates no dirty electricity effects.
I have the European version of the Greenwave meter and with 4 DE2 filters the meter has always read around the 40mv range which is good.
The problem comes with the air conditioning unit in the living area (http://www.leroymerlin.es/fp/19813171/aire-acondicionado-fijo-aire-plus-1x1-tr?pathFamilaFicha=0805&uniSelect=0&ancho=0&largo=0#) I include a link for reference as I don´t know if the AC units in the US differ much. Once the compressor starts this unit sends the meter off the scale at 1998mv!
So I bought more DE2 filters from a European supplier, I think they are similar to the Greenwave filters, but are for 240v and are magnetically shielded.
So 12 filters managed to get the meter numbers down to 300mv to 700mv on the circuits around the house… but near to the circuit where this AC unit is wired is still off the scale..
I added the two stetzerizer European versions filters that I bought to try, on the plug nearest the AC unit and they just gave off a very faint high pitched buzzing that gave me a headache. Still at this outlet the meter was off the scale and in the house had come down (after much playing with which sockets to plug these things into) between 200-400mv.
I then read that it might be possible to fit a power line filter to the mains supply of the AC unit to filter the frequencies before they come into the house.
The outside compressor unit of the AC has been wired into a nearby outside box with sockets and RCD and trip etc, so I purchased a couple of different types of power line filters (https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/power-line-filters/2192915/) and wired one into direct power supply of the AC unit. Made no difference to the Greenwave meter.
I happened to see in the builders supply shop a range of capacities for motor and suppression use.
I purchased a 40uF unit which is rated for 480v (for example https://capacitor-shop.co.uk/product/buy-motor-run-capacitors-40uf-ac-tag-spade-connector-240v-475v-pf/)  to try and this is connected in parallel.
Suddenly the Greenwave meter shows readings that are less than half what they were… less than 100mv in the house and less than 600mv right at the supply unit.
So my main question is, should this type of motor capacitor be just connected in parallel to the mains supply at the point the AC unit takes it? I notice that other people make their own DE filters using much smaller capacitors and a resister?
I understand the dangers of handling these large capacitors, but I am not an electrical engineer.
The house is relatively modern (10 year old) with recent wiring and no faults as far as I am aware.

 
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Fog Top
I'm unable to advise about filtering except that I have been told by an ES electrical engineer and read expert reports that Green Wave & Stetzer filters are a scam which turn one form of EMF into another while their meters are able to only measure a small set of DE frequencies and totally miss the other problematic DE.  I do not do well when Stetzer filters are plugged into my electrical outlets.  Most of your building biologists except for Sal LaDuca will tell you to use those capacitive filters. https://www.emfrelief.com/   - look at #5 -"Capacitive harmonic filters".  Here's a video of a USA oscilloscope of a Fijitsu Mini Split Install  showing massive DE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tUsf8Ik3uM



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Subject: [ES] Dirty Electricity created by an inverter air conditioning unit - Advice please
 
I wonder if I could get some advise please.
We live in the mountains near the Valencia coast in Spain, Originally from the UK.
When we bought the house the main source of heating other than a log burner is a diesel furnace.
We have just had 3 room air conditioning units installed which included heat source pumps as these are the most cost effective ways of heating here. We have a big open plan, double height living area which is hard to heat via radiators, so a large unit was installed here... The two smaller Mitsubishi units were installed in the main bedroom and the office. With all three on the house has never been so warm and the unit are able to also heat the adjourning bathrooms and hallway etc...
So bliss you would think.
The Mitsubishi units are great, we had the first one fitted in the summer in the bedroom and although it has the words inverter all over it, it creates no dirty electricity effects.
I have the European version of the Greenwave meter and with 4 DE2 filters the meter has always read around the 40mv range which is good.
The problem comes with the air conditioning unit in the living area (http://www.leroymerlin.es/fp/19813171/aire-acondicionado-fijo-aire-plus-1x1-tr?pathFamilaFicha=0805&uniSelect=0&ancho=0&largo=0#) I include a link for reference as I don´t know if the AC units in the US differ much. Once the compressor starts this unit sends the meter off the scale at 1998mv!
So I bought more DE2 filters from a European supplier, I think they are similar to the Greenwave filters, but are for 240v and are magnetically shielded.
So 12 filters managed to get the meter numbers down to 300mv to 700mv on the circuits around the house… but near to the circuit where this AC unit is wired is still off the scale..
I added the two stetzerizer European versions filters that I bought to try, on the plug nearest the AC unit and they just gave off a very faint high pitched buzzing that gave me a headache. Still at this outlet the meter was off the scale and in the house had come down (after much playing with which sockets to plug these things into) between 200-400mv.
I then read that it might be possible to fit a power line filter to the mains supply of the AC unit to filter the frequencies before they come into the house.
The outside compressor unit of the AC has been wired into a nearby outside box with sockets and RCD and trip etc, so I purchased a couple of different types of power line filters (https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/power-line-filters/2192915/) and wired one into direct power supply of the AC unit. Made no difference to the Greenwave meter.
I happened to see in the builders supply shop a range of capacities for motor and suppression use.
I purchased a 40uF unit which is rated for 480v (for example https://capacitor-shop.co.uk/product/buy-motor-run-capacitors-40uf-ac-tag-spade-connector-240v-475v-pf/)  to try and this is connected in parallel.
Suddenly the Greenwave meter shows readings that are less than half what they were… less than 100mv in the house and less than 600mv right at the supply unit.
So my main question is, should this type of motor capacitor be just connected in parallel to the mains supply at the point the AC unit takes it? I notice that other people make their own DE filters using much smaller capacitors and a resister?
I understand the dangers of handling these large capacitors, but I am not an electrical engineer.
The house is relatively modern (10 year old) with recent wiring and no faults as far as I am aware.

 



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