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Jinna
My doc told me, because of my poor health and low immunity, 'forget about having an implant'.

I got a bit bitter with him, but when I actually had my first dead teeth pulled off (they had root canal treatments), the surprised expression of the surgeon told me there was something wrong...

He found that my jawbones were mushy, barely any solid substance there, and used a tiny SPOON to scoop what was there and showed me ... : a slimy awful jelly, that was once my jawbone.

My dead tooth had been infected for decades probably, and I had no more jawbone to put any implant, anyway.

I don't know how my lyme doctor knew about it before the tooth was pulled, but as he comes with patients to the surgeon (yes, he does come with us), he has been doing that for more than a decade, and he must know, by experience, that his bad lyme patients have little chance to get implants...


Anyway, I pulled 7 teeth in total, all dead, most with root canals, and had NONE with healthy jawbone.

All 7 were infected.

Not all had mushy jawbone, but the ones which still had some bone under, were not solid.

Again the surgeon had that strange look of surprise, as he drilled into the jawbone for cleaning, but found that my jawbone was porous, not solid, like chalk...

No way to get an implant in this case. Not a single implant. I would need bone implant before doing any teeth implant.

And the story of infected bones is true.

 If the patient does not have his jaw bones cleaned (under the root canal or dead tooth), there is high chance of implant failure, as infection progresses, and the implant falls off.

At least, that is what my lyme doc told me...


Having said that, some people seem to have no problems with zirkonium implants!

I guess, it all depends on cleaning the jawbone well, and on their health status.

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earthworm
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" How corrupt the ADA must be to continue to say that amalgam usage is safe! "

Well, this conspiracy of expensive mouth-plumbers does not want to restrained in its malpractices and certainly not to be sued and seen as it is : criminal and pseudo-scientific.
The story is similar regarding the practice of root canal treatments.
The mentioned book by Kulacz and Levy also brilliantly responds to nonsense the ADA puts out.
In addition it is absolutely worth reading for anyone that have had or one day may have a tooth pulled or a root canal done.

Regarding mercury poisoning, i read that in the first half of 19th century mercury was given to any ill person by the medical authorities.
Even women who merely spoke up for themselves were considered ill ( "hysteric" ) and in need for this medicine.
People, then still less enslaved and brainwashed sheeple than nowadays, at one point turned their back on the medical academics and for 25 years there was little business for the latter, till they changed their strategy in order to fool, butcher and exploit their fellow men again.

Mercury poisoning not only can cause ( or contribute to ) electromagnetic hypersensitivity but as well a number of other vulnerabilities or health issues like autism, cancer, neurological disorders ( often diagnosed as psychological ones ), memory loss, infections, fatigue ( etc ).
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earthworm
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Jinna, you have been still lucky to finally find a good surgeon that cleaned out that " slimy awful jelly, that was once my jawbone ".
Such spots often also form within the bone after a tooth is pulled without removing the ligament and any infected bone around the root.
Within these weakened or dissolved areas ( often called "cavitations" ) anaerobic bacteria can flourish, continuously producing extremely toxic waste, causing a heavy burden and leading possibly even to death, while few people will connect the dots and name the main culprit.

The zirconia implants are in general pretty expensive anyway and even if they do not fail within a longer period, chances are that an infection near the implant remains unnoticed.
Removable non-metal dentures do not have these disadvantages.




 
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earthworm
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I should mention that the books by Ramiel Nagel have some serious flaws.
The main idea that nutrition is of utmost importance also for dental health remains invaluable.
However animal-based food in large quantities as he actually promotes, won't in general be that healthy.
I take and enjoy raw milk / kefir / cheese and a teaspoon of cod-liver-oil daily during the winter, and together with plenty of fruits and vegetables and some seaweed this is likely more than sufficient.
However the worst thing one could do is follow his advice to use the so-called "fermented cod-liver-oil" by "GreenPasture".
It's oil from rotten fish-livers, full of toxins, with rancid fats, and little vitamin D, suspected as a cause of various diseases.
http://drkaayladaniel.com/a-big-dose-of-codswallop/
Most cod-liver-oils, although not this bad, are heavily processed and damaged, with artificial vitamins added because the natural ones did not survive their production-methods.
Just in case someone is interested to buy some cod-liver-oil, best seems clearly the raw and pure "Rosita" and more affordable but still reasonable is the well-known "Möller" ( slightly heated and with some synthetic vitamin E ).
Another interesting book is "Holistic Dental Care" by Nadine Artemis, she shares her insights also quite in detail on youtube, e.g. like here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0GU_pt1L6o
In addition to my recommendation of "The Roots of Disease" by R. Kulacz and T.E. Levy, one could also read their newer book "The Toxic Tooth", which is also brilliant, to get a picture of the sinister world of root-canals and cavitations.
The latter book contains more case-stories and criticism of dental organisations, and a bit less theory but some links, of which one is :
https://blog.toxictooth.com/published-interviews-with-the-authors/

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steve
Rosita is very expensive. Standard process sells cod oil caps and I would trust them
Steve



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I should mention that the books by Ramiel Nagel have some serious flaws.
The main idea that nutrition is of utmost importance also for dental health remains invaluable.
However animal-based food in large quantities as he actually promotes, won't in general be that healthy.
I take and enjoy raw milk / kefir / cheese and a teaspoon of cod-liver-oil daily during the winter, and together with plenty of fruits and vegetables and some seaweed this is likely more than sufficient.
However the worst thing one could do is follow his advice to use the so-called "fermented cod-liver-oil" by "GreenPasture".
It's oil from rotten fish-livers, full of toxins, with rancid fats, and little vitamin D, suspected as a cause of various diseases.
http://drkaayladaniel.com/a-big-dose-of-codswallop/
Most cod-liver-oils, although not this bad, are heavily processed and damaged, with artificial vitamins added because the natural ones did not survive their production-methods.
Just in case someone is interested to buy some cod-liver-oil, best seems clearly the raw and pure "Rosita" and more affordable but still reasonable is the well-known "Möller" ( slightly heated and with some synthetic vitamin E ).
Another interesting book is "Holistic Dental Care" by Nadine Artemis, she shares her insights also quite in detail on youtube, e.g. like here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0GU_pt1L6o
In addition to my recommendation of "The Roots of Disease" by R. Kulacz and T.E. Levy, one could also read their newer book "The Toxic Tooth", which is also brilliant, to get a picture of the sinister world of root-canals and cavitations.
The latter book contains more case-stories and criticism of dental organisations, and a bit less theory but some links, of which one is :
https://blog.toxictooth.com/published-interviews-with-the-authors/




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earthworm
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"Rosita" has twice the vitamin A and over 4 times the vitamin D per slightly smaller serving, so it is debatable that "Standard Process" is cheaper.
https://evclo.com/testing/  vs. https://www.standardprocess.com/Products/Standard-Process/Cod-Liver-Oil
The loss of vitamins in the "Standard Process" indicates that its production method is inferior and damaging, probably to the fats as well.
Also the ratio between its vitamins is problematic, as vitamin A blocks the absorption of vitamin D.
The vitamin A / vitamin D ratio of the brand "Möller" is fine.
http://www.mollersomega3.com/product/mollers-pharma-tran-d-lemon-flavor/
Comparing is a bit confusing because of diverse measuring units.
Combining in one meal cod liver oil with good sources of vitamin A, e.g. turkey or beef liver, would be a bit of a waste as far as the vitamin D is concerned, which is my main concern as you may have guessed.
Anyway it is likely not wise to take high doses of either these vitamins, two small bottles may be enough to get through the winter ( unless that winter happens to be long and dark ).
Of course the last word has not been said about the topic of the proper vitamin D intake, or even the need of any of it, here is another view :
https://gettingstronger.org/2012/11/why-i-dont-take-vitamin-d-supplements/
https://gettingstronger.org/2013/02/an-alternative-to-vitamin-d-supplements/
In the meantime i'll stick to low dose high quality purely natural cod liver oil.
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Marc Martin
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I've gone back and forth on the Vitamin D issue over the years, supplementing and not supplementing; testing in the normal range and testing very low.  Seems like my ES symptoms are independent of it.  And it's not clear to me that I'm healthier overall with normal Vitamin D levels.

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earthworm
The level of vitamin D in the blood may not be that relevant, perhaps it even fluctuates through the day.
According to the newest book by Anthony William the liver can store it for over a decade and release it when needed, provided that the liver is in good shape.
He warns against supplementation of high doses, which could actually lead to a partial loss of the build-up reserves.
Anyway, there appears to be a link between a lack of vitamin D ( if any ) and dental problems.
And these problems often evolve from small cavities slowly in the direction of rootcanal treated teeth, cavitations, gum disease and sometimes dental implants.
This implies endo- and exo-toxins from anaerobic bacteria being released and heavily burdening the immune system.
This in turn will likely worsen, if not cause, es-related trouble.
Dental implants usually give a lesser toxic load, but if these contain metals ( as the less expensive titanium ones do ), then an electromagnetic effect is to be expected, and the same applies to other metal materials used by dentists.
Then there are other issues with dental materials , e.g. mercury- and BPA- ( used in most white fillings ) poisoning , and anaesthetics at play.
So from a sensible long term perspective, it seems to be of the utmost importance to prevent dental deterioration.
I think nutrition is key here, and oral hygiene can help only a little.
Before civilisation cavities were in general a rather rare event, and toothbrushes and floss-thread unknown, not to speak of dentists fooling around at our expense.


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Jinna
earthworm, thank you for all the links you provide.

Some are indeed very good.

I'll just post here another link, from Nadine Artemis, who's got good tips for dental health.

https://www.consciouslifestylemag.com/healthy-teeth-and-mouth/

I usually use a rule of thumb: overall health = health of the mouth (teeth, gum, jaws) + health of gut.

If the gut is not nice, functioning, detoxing (food allergies, sensitivities, digestive problems, candida, absorption problems etc) and the mouth's got smells, red gum, cavities, crooked teeth, colored teeth, etc, it means that the WHOLE body is ill.

My dentist above is partially 'alternative', partially mainstream. He though follows what my Klinghardt practitioner doctor asks him to do, so that is why he cleaned each pulled teeth, scraped, etc...

Nadine says the same: your oral health = your gut health and vice versa!!! Nicely explained!!!


You are right: what I suffered were from multiple cavitations, my teeth usually die off from inside out. THis happened after lyme disease. And that is exactly the time I started to be E-Sensitive.

Most people with lyme (if not all of them) have problems with teeth. It's a time bomb.

I'm doing now liposomal products to help my gut with absorption.

Nice you like Anthony William's suggestions. In a recent brain conference (Klinghardt was also part of it), most practitioners were coming to an enlightened conclusion that MOST chronic diseases involve infections, toxicity etc, but that what is at the base of almost all cases are chronic VIRAL infections.

The funny point: Anthony William has been talking about that for more than a decade.

I bet that ES is also enhanced with the load of viruses in the body.
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