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Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this time, but same symptoms...

Elysia Drew
Salut, all. Got EXTREMELY ill from 1 min. of
close-range exposure to the AIR CONDITIONER that the person I’m staying w/ is
using. It’s one of those BIG ones w/ metal housing & grates on 3 sides; will
soon be sitting in the window but if I curled up I could fit inside the darn
thing. It’s used & over 12 years old. She’s officially installing it & turning it on TODAY;
I tested it out the other day & at firs thought it was fine, but about 15
min-1/2 hr. later: Chest and gut feel full of painful pressure, as if preparing
to explode. Then a pounding, skull-rattling migraine, followed by choking,
trouble swallowing, blurry vision, & intense muscle pain all over body; so
bad it makes all my muscles yank downwards. I know my adrenals are getting
affected b/c I also feel intense pressure just above the middle of my spine,
& it makes my spine so weak & shaky I can’t stand up. (Not sure what to
do there; I’m already on porcine thyroid & adrenal hormone from
Nutri-Meds).

All of the above symptoms PERSIST
ENDLESSLY for as long as I’m within range of whatever is coming out of the a/c
unit, including when I’m outside & over 20 ft. away on other side of house.
I’m really struggling to fig. out what my problem w/ air conditioners is. I get affected equally badly and/or
even worse by what COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE after the a/c unit is turned OFF and
the WINDOWS are opened, even when I’m up a hill, 30-40 feet away (which
is as far as I can get). I had this same problem at my folks’ house in 2009 but assumed it was the mold in the house. I have inadvertently avoided air conditioners since then, but now I have no choice but to be
around them. I never figured out what it was I was reacting to. I thought maybe
the unit makes the dust particles smaller, or pollen, or metals, or plastic, or
Freon. I am allergic to dust; not sensitive, allergic, & yet the allergy doesn’t manifest. (I can be in a
dusty room or have a dust-laden fan blowing air in my face, & I only get a
tiny fraction of the air conditioner symptoms, if any). I can be around some
a/c units w/ no problem or minimal problem. I seem to do better w/ the ones that are SMALLER  (i.e. meant to cool 1 room) and that have
been in the window ALL YEAR. When the unit has been sitting, stagnant,
even in a bone-dry, non-moldy garage
(as is the case w/ this one I’m reacting to). I cannot go in the house anymore,
& am barely surviving being in my tent 40 ft. up a hill away from the
house, b/c whatever I’mr eacting to is reaching me there, too.


*Considering my symptoms, what do you think it may
be that I’m r aecting to? And what supplements might you take for it?


*If Freon leakage is the problem, what supplements,
if any, can I take to detoxify it from brain & body? And how much of them
would I need to take?


(I’ve tried large amounts of quercetin,
GSE, pectin, chlorella, green tea extract, cholestyramine & all kinds of
other nutritional support & detox support; nothing seems to work & w/
all the stuff I try, I end up out of money by the middle of the month. I do NOT
have the option of moving or of
finding another air conditioner. I must be able to not get deathly ill from this stuff, b/c it’s everywhere & I
don’t have transportation to get away from it or move to a more remote location).


I really appreciate your input. Thanks very much J

Love & blessings,

Elysia   

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RE: Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this time, but same symptoms...

Elizabeth thode

Elysia,
Could be the dirty electricity this A/C unit is putting out?
Which would be in effect putting additonial dirty electricity all thru
the house's wiring.
Try putting one of the Magnets on your left inner ankle, North side towards the skin.
Or on your left inner wrist, North Side towards the skin.
Do this only for a minute at a time- or less, if uncomfortable......if your electrical system is out of balance,
it is common for one to experience discomfort. PUt it on for a minute, or less, then
take it off, repeat every few hours until you can wear it for a lenghth of time.
See if this helps.
Lizzie

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Subject: [eSens] Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this time, but same symptoms...
















 



 


   
     
     
      Salut, all. Got EXTREMELY ill from 1 min. of

close-range exposure to the AIR CONDITIONER that the person I’m staying w/ is

using. It’s one of those BIG ones w/ metal housing & grates on 3 sides; will

soon be sitting in the window but if I curled up I could fit inside the darn

thing. It’s used & over 12 years old. She’s officially installing it & turning it on TODAY;

I tested it out the other day & at firs thought it was fine, but about 15

min-1/2 hr. later: Chest and gut feel full of painful pressure, as if preparing

to explode. Then a pounding, skull-rattling migraine, followed by choking,

trouble swallowing, blurry vision, & intense muscle pain all over body; so

bad it makes all my muscles yank downwards. I know my adrenals are getting

affected b/c I also feel intense pressure just above the middle of my spine,

& it makes my spine so weak & shaky I can’t stand up. (Not sure what to

do there; I’m already on porcine thyroid & adrenal hormone from

Nutri-Meds).



All of the above symptoms PERSIST

ENDLESSLY for as long as I’m within range of whatever is coming out of the a/c

unit, including when I’m outside & over 20 ft. away on other side of house.

I’m really struggling to fig. out what my problem w/ air conditioners is. I get affected equally badly and/or

even worse by what COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE after the a/c unit is turned OFF and

the WINDOWS are opened, even when I’m up a hill, 30-40 feet away (which

is as far as I can get). I had this same problem at my folks’ house in 2009 but assumed it was the mold in the house. I have inadvertently avoided air conditioners since then, but now I have no choice but to be

around them. I never figured out what it was I was reacting to. I thought maybe

the unit makes the dust particles smaller, or pollen, or metals, or plastic, or

Freon. I am allergic to dust; not sensitive, allergic, & yet the allergy doesn’t manifest. (I can be in a

dusty room or have a dust-laden fan blowing air in my face, & I only get a

tiny fraction of the air conditioner symptoms, if any). I can be around some

a/c units w/ no problem or minimal problem. I seem to do better w/ the ones that are SMALLER  (i.e. meant to cool 1 room) and that have

been in the window ALL YEAR. When the unit has been sitting, stagnant,

even in a bone-dry, non-moldy garage

(as is the case w/ this one I’m reacting to). I cannot go in the house anymore,

& am barely surviving being in my tent 40 ft. up a hill away from the

house, b/c whatever I’mr eacting to is reaching me there, too.



*Considering my symptoms, what do you think it may

be that I’m r aecting to? And what supplements might you take for it?



*If Freon leakage is the problem, what supplements,

if any, can I take to detoxify it from brain & body? And how much of them

would I need to take?



(I’ve tried large amounts of quercetin,

GSE, pectin, chlorella, green tea extract, cholestyramine & all kinds of

other nutritional support & detox support; nothing seems to work & w/

all the stuff I try, I end up out of money by the middle of the month. I do NOT

have the option of moving or of

finding another air conditioner. I must be able to not get deathly ill from this stuff, b/c it’s everywhere & I

don’t have transportation to get away from it or move to a more remote location).



I really appreciate your input. Thanks very much J



Love & blessings,



Elysia  



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Re: Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this time, but same symptoms...

BiBrun
In terms of EMFs, I would expect the compressor to not be too bad except
the surge when it kicks on.  But the fan motors could be bad depending on
what kind they are.  It might be possible to replace those... it could make
a difference between being OK at 5 feet instead of only OK at 20 feet.  If
it is a chemical issue, you might check with Richard Conrad of
conradbiologic.com, who I know would consider finding a safe AC unit a
major research project.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>wrote:

>
> Elysia,
> Could be the dirty electricity this A/C unit is putting out?
> Which would be in effect putting additonial dirty electricity all thru
> the house's wiring.
> Try putting one of the Magnets on your left inner ankle, North side
> towards the skin.
> Or on your left inner wrist, North Side towards the skin.
> Do this only for a minute at a time- or less, if uncomfortable......if
> your electrical system is out of balance,
> it is common for one to experience discomfort. PUt it on for a minute, or
> less, then
> take it off, repeat every few hours until you can wear it for a lenghth of
> time.
> See if this helps.
> Lizzie
>
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:09:51 -0700
> Subject: [eSens] Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this
> time, but same symptoms...
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>      Salut, all. Got EXTREMELY ill from 1 min. of
>
> close-range exposure to the AIR CONDITIONER that the person I’m staying w/
> is
>
> using. It’s one of those BIG ones w/ metal housing & grates on 3 sides;
> will
>
> soon be sitting in the window but if I curled up I could fit inside the
> darn
>
> thing. It’s used & over 12 years old. She’s officially installing it &
> turning it on TODAY;
>
> I tested it out the other day & at firs thought it was fine, but about 15
>
> min-1/2 hr. later: Chest and gut feel full of painful pressure, as if
> preparing
>
> to explode. Then a pounding, skull-rattling migraine, followed by choking,
>
> trouble swallowing, blurry vision, & intense muscle pain all over body; so
>
> bad it makes all my muscles yank downwards. I know my adrenals are getting
>
> affected b/c I also feel intense pressure just above the middle of my
> spine,
>
> & it makes my spine so weak & shaky I can’t stand up. (Not sure what to
>
> do there; I’m already on porcine thyroid & adrenal hormone from
>
> Nutri-Meds).
>
>
>
> All of the above symptoms PERSIST
>
> ENDLESSLY for as long as I’m within range of whatever is coming out of the
> a/c
>
> unit, including when I’m outside & over 20 ft. away on other side of house.
>
> I’m really struggling to fig. out what my problem w/ air conditioners is.
> I get affected equally badly and/or
>
> even worse by what COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE after the a/c unit is turned OFF
> and
>
> the WINDOWS are opened, even when I’m up a hill, 30-40 feet away (which
>
> is as far as I can get). I had this same problem at my folks’ house in
> 2009 but assumed it was the mold in the house. I have inadvertently avoided
> air conditioners since then, but now I have no choice but to be
>
> around them. I never figured out what it was I was reacting to. I thought
> maybe
>
> the unit makes the dust particles smaller, or pollen, or metals, or
> plastic, or
>
> Freon. I am allergic to dust; not sensitive, allergic, & yet the allergy
> doesn’t manifest. (I can be in a
>
> dusty room or have a dust-laden fan blowing air in my face, & I only get a
>
> tiny fraction of the air conditioner symptoms, if any). I can be around
> some
>
> a/c units w/ no problem or minimal problem. I seem to do better w/ the
> ones that are SMALLER  (i.e. meant to cool 1 room) and that have
>
> been in the window ALL YEAR. When the unit has been sitting, stagnant,
>
> even in a bone-dry, non-moldy garage
>
> (as is the case w/ this one I’m reacting to). I cannot go in the house
> anymore,
>
> & am barely surviving being in my tent 40 ft. up a hill away from the
>
> house, b/c whatever I’mr eacting to is reaching me there, too.
>
>
>
> *Considering my symptoms, what do you think it may
>
> be that I’m r aecting to? And what supplements might you take for it?
>
>
>
> *If Freon leakage is the problem, what supplements,
>
> if any, can I take to detoxify it from brain & body? And how much of them
>
> would I need to take?
>
>
>
> (I’ve tried large amounts of quercetin,
>
> GSE, pectin, chlorella, green tea extract, cholestyramine & all kinds of
>
> other nutritional support & detox support; nothing seems to work & w/
>
> all the stuff I try, I end up out of money by the middle of the month. I
> do NOT
>
> have the option of moving or of
>
> finding another air conditioner. I must be able to not get deathly ill
> from this stuff, b/c it’s everywhere & I
>
> don’t have transportation to get away from it or move to a more remote
> location).
>
>
>
> I really appreciate your input. Thanks very much J
>
>
>
> Love & blessings,
>
>
>
> Elysia
>
>
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Re: Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this time, but same symptoms...

Elysia Drew
Hi, Bill & everyone. Thanks for your responses. Can't do a raw foods diet b/c I'm living in between 2 copper mines, w/ 1 only about 4 miles away, which I suspect is why my adrenals are so burned out despite taking thyroid & adrenal hormone. Raw foods are full of copper. I really think it's a FREON issue (the refrigerant) b/c they banned that stuff b/c it was common for leakages to happen, & it's a gas so there isn't a way to escape it by going indoors. It feels like getting poisoned, & I don't react that way to every unit. The ones on people's roofs seem to affect me a bit less (swamp coolers?), perhaps b/c they use evaporation of water, which would help bring the particles of Freon down to earth (instead of up the air & onto the little hill where I am, about 40 ft. from the house). It's the big, older, boxy, window-unit air conditioners that have been stagnant that have these severe fx on me. Strangely, they affect me less when they've been left in the
 window all year; maybe it's better for it to be exposed to the elements or sthg. My BBB is also VERY weak due to a pesticide exposure last Monday, so that could have made me more sensitive to the a/c unit, which I tested on Friday. I haven't actually been back since it's been installed; stayed a nite at a friend's place, but then end up geting really ill from all the iPhones & Blackberrys people have in the nearby trailer park. Still, I can handle that better than whatever this thing is w/ the air conditioner. 
Love & blessings,Elysia


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From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this time, but same symptoms...
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 9:05 PM

In terms of EMFs, I would expect the compressor to not be too bad except
the surge when it kicks on.  But the fan motors could be bad depending on
what kind they are.  It might be possible to replace those... it could make
a difference between being OK at 5 feet instead of only OK at 20 feet.  If
it is a chemical issue, you might check with Richard Conrad of
conradbiologic.com, who I know would consider finding a safe AC unit a
major research project.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>wrote:

>
> Elysia,
> Could be the dirty electricity this A/C unit is putting out?
> Which would be in effect putting additonial dirty electricity all thru
> the house's wiring.
> Try putting one of the Magnets on your left inner ankle, North side
> towards the skin.
> Or on your left inner wrist, North Side towards the skin.
> Do this only for a minute at a time- or less, if uncomfortable......if
> your electrical system is out of balance,
> it is common for one to experience discomfort. PUt it on for a minute, or
> less, then
> take it off, repeat every few hours until you can wear it for a lenghth of
> time.
> See if this helps.
> Lizzie
>
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:09:51 -0700
> Subject: [eSens] Deathly ill from AIR CONDITIONER again; not mold this
> time, but same symptoms...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      Salut, all. Got EXTREMELY ill from 1 min. of
>
> close-range exposure to the AIR CONDITIONER that the person I’m staying w/
> is
>
> using. It’s one of those BIG ones w/ metal housing & grates on 3 sides;
> will
>
> soon be sitting in the window but if I curled up I could fit inside the
> darn
>
> thing. It’s used & over 12 years old. She’s officially installing it &
> turning it on TODAY;
>
> I tested it out the other day & at firs thought it was fine, but about 15
>
> min-1/2 hr. later: Chest and gut feel full of painful pressure, as if
> preparing
>
> to explode. Then a pounding, skull-rattling migraine, followed by choking,
>
> trouble swallowing, blurry vision, & intense muscle pain all over body; so
>
> bad it makes all my muscles yank downwards. I know my adrenals are getting
>
> affected b/c I also feel intense pressure just above the middle of my
> spine,
>
> & it makes my spine so weak & shaky I can’t stand up. (Not sure what to
>
> do there; I’m already on porcine thyroid & adrenal hormone from
>
> Nutri-Meds).
>
>
>
> All of the above symptoms PERSIST
>
> ENDLESSLY for as long as I’m within range of whatever is coming out of the
> a/c
>
> unit, including when I’m outside & over 20 ft. away on other side of house.
>
> I’m really struggling to fig. out what my problem w/ air conditioners is.
> I get affected equally badly and/or
>
> even worse by what COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE after the a/c unit is turned OFF
> and
>
> the WINDOWS are opened, even when I’m up a hill, 30-40 feet away (which
>
> is as far as I can get). I had this same problem at my folks’ house in
> 2009 but assumed it was the mold in the house. I have inadvertently avoided
> air conditioners since then, but now I have no choice but to be
>
> around them. I never figured out what it was I was reacting to. I thought
> maybe
>
> the unit makes the dust particles smaller, or pollen, or metals, or
> plastic, or
>
> Freon. I am allergic to dust; not sensitive, allergic, & yet the allergy
> doesn’t manifest. (I can be in a
>
> dusty room or have a dust-laden fan blowing air in my face, & I only get a
>
> tiny fraction of the air conditioner symptoms, if any). I can be around
> some
>
> a/c units w/ no problem or minimal problem. I seem to do better w/ the
> ones that are SMALLER  (i.e. meant to cool 1 room) and that have
>
> been in the window ALL YEAR. When the unit has been sitting, stagnant,
>
> even in a bone-dry, non-moldy garage
>
> (as is the case w/ this one I’m reacting to). I cannot go in the house
> anymore,
>
> & am barely surviving being in my tent 40 ft. up a hill away from the
>
> house, b/c whatever I’mr eacting to is reaching me there, too.
>
>
>
> *Considering my symptoms, what do you think it may
>
> be that I’m r aecting to? And what supplements might you take for it?
>
>
>
> *If Freon leakage is the problem, what supplements,
>
> if any, can I take to detoxify it from brain & body? And how much of them
>
> would I need to take?
>
>
>
> (I’ve tried large amounts of quercetin,
>
> GSE, pectin, chlorella, green tea extract, cholestyramine & all kinds of
>
> other nutritional support & detox support; nothing seems to work & w/
>
> all the stuff I try, I end up out of money by the middle of the month. I
> do NOT
>
> have the option of moving or of
>
> finding another air conditioner. I must be able to not get deathly ill
> from this stuff, b/c it’s everywhere & I
>
> don’t have transportation to get away from it or move to a more remote
> location).
>
>
>
> I really appreciate your input. Thanks very much J
>
>
>
> Love & blessings,
>
>
>
> Elysia
>
>
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