DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

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DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Burnie
Does it make a difference? Has anyone had experiences/problems with any of these compared to another? I don't use wireless internet, so I have these three choices and was wondering if one emits less EMR than another. I am hypersensitive.
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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Marc Martin
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There can be a huge difference, and different people tolerate different things.

Also it can depend to some degree on the wiring in your house and the modem
you have.

I had terrible problems from DSL that just got worse at the speeds increased.
Currently I don't have any problems with cable, although I have taken steps
to minimize exposure (e.g. line strength reducers, disconnecting wiring
that is not in use, trying different modems)

Marc
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Tryingtoheal


I'll jump in here. I had terrible problems with DSL. 

I'm doing much better with Fiberoptics.  We  have it
for cable, internet, & phone.  Charter here offers
a hardwired only internet modem if you ask for one.

Kathy

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
There can be a huge difference, and different people tolerate different things.

Also it can depend to some degree on the wiring in your house and the modem
you have.

I had terrible problems from DSL that just got worse at the speeds increased.
Currently I don't have any problems with cable, although I have taken steps
to minimize exposure (e.g. line strength reducers, disconnecting wiring
that is not in use, trying different modems)

Marc



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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Burnie
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Thanks; it's good to know that I'm not the only one sensitive to modems. Fiber optic--I forgot about that one though I'm not sure about that one because someone referred to it as "WiFi." And it does work like Wifi--even though the modem itself uses a ton of wires.
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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Patricia
i'm a bit confused by your statement. 
how does fiber optics work like wifi?  
thanks. 
patricia 


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Thanks; it's good to know that I'm not the only one sensitive to modems. Fiber optic--I forgot about that one though I'm not sure about that one because someone referred to it as "WiFi." And it does work like Wifi--even though the modem itself uses a ton of wires.


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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Fog Top
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The modems that I'm familiar with can be programmed for WIFI or Ethernet cable.  Usually they are automatically setup to pulse out WIFI, so that a person must go into the modem settings and manually turn off WIFI connection setting and "save" - or it will come right back on at the next startup - in order to truly turn it off.  If the settings are not changed, even though an Ethernet cable is plugged in it will still pulse WIFI continually.

The same is true with a laptop computer - the WIFI must be manually disabled when using an ethernet cable otherwise the internal WIFI will continue to pulse trying to make a connection even though you thought you had only a wired connection.  I can't stress how important this is for electro sensitives - as I "fried" myself by failing to turn off the WIFI connection in my laptop- it was pulsing to at least 2.4 GHz every 20 seconds trying to connect wirelessly.  I was getting so sick that I thought I might never be able to use a computer again until I realized that the problem was in the wireless connection settings.

I haven't felt a difference between DSL and cable internet.  The DSL I now have is only around 1.5 mpbs which is pretty slow, so maybe that makes a difference.  If you have DSL on your phone line (instead of a dedicated line), be sure the telephone company gives you a DSL filter.
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Tryingtoheal


We went through all this when we had DSL. The modem still went back to WIFI becoming activated
when it reset.

We have the Arris model TM822A modem https://www.arrisi.com/support/documentation/user_guides/_docs/TM822AS_User_Guide_Std.pdf                 from our cable co. Charter for their Fiberoptics.
It does not offer a WIFI option per their manual.  The co. asks you if you want hardwired
or WIFI.  At least they offer a choice.  

We ordered shielded  cables online to run internet to other omputers in the home. 

Kathy

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The modems that I'm familiar with can be programmed for WIFI or Ethernet cable.  Usually they are automatically setup to pulse out WIFI, so that a person must go into the modem settings and manually turn off WIFI connection setting and "save" - or it will come right back on at the next startup - in order to truly turn it off.  If the settings are not changed, even though an Ethernet cable is plugged in it will still pulse WIFI continually.

The same is true with a laptop computer - the WIFI must be manually disabled when using an ethernet cable otherwise the internal WIFI will continue to pulse trying to make a connection even though you thought you had only a wired connection.  I can't stress how important this is for electro sensitives - as I "fried" myself by failing to turn off the WIFI connection in my laptop- it was pulsing to at least 2.4 GHz every 20 seconds trying to connect wirelessly.  I was getting so sick that I thought I might never be able to use a computer again until I realized that the problem was in the wireless connection settings.

I haven't felt a difference between DSL and cable internet.  The DSL I now have is only around 1.5 mpbs which is pretty slow, so maybe that makes a difference.  If you have DSL on your phone line (instead of a dedicated line), be sure the telephone company gives you a DSL filter.


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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Tryingtoheal


I found a page with all the modems Charter offers. I'm sure some have WIFI, but importantly others do not.

https://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/support.aspx?supportarticleid=2623

Kathy

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Tryingtoheal [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:


We went through all this when we had DSL. The modem still went back to WIFI becoming activated
when it reset.

We have the Arris model TM822A modem https://www.arrisi.com/support/documentation/user_guides/_docs/TM822AS_User_Guide_Std.pdf                 from our cable co. Charter for their Fiberoptics.
It does not offer a WIFI option per their manual.  The co. asks you if you want hardwired
or WIFI.  At least they offer a choice.  

We ordered shielded  cables online to run internet to other omputers in the home. 

Kathy

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Fog Top [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
The modems that I'm familiar with can be programmed for WIFI or Ethernet cable.  Usually they are automatically setup to pulse out WIFI, so that a person must go into the modem settings and manually turn off WIFI connection setting and "save" - or it will come right back on at the next startup - in order to truly turn it off.  If the settings are not changed, even though an Ethernet cable is plugged in it will still pulse WIFI continually.

The same is true with a laptop computer - the WIFI must be manually disabled when using an ethernet cable otherwise the internal WIFI will continue to pulse trying to make a connection even though you thought you had only a wired connection.  I can't stress how important this is for electro sensitives - as I "fried" myself by failing to turn off the WIFI connection in my laptop- it was pulsing to at least 2.4 GHz every 20 seconds trying to connect wirelessly.  I was getting so sick that I thought I might never be able to use a computer again until I realized that the problem was in the wireless connection settings.

I haven't felt a difference between DSL and cable internet.  The DSL I now have is only around 1.5 mpbs which is pretty slow, so maybe that makes a difference.  If you have DSL on your phone line (instead of a dedicated line), be sure the telephone company gives you a DSL filter.


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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Burnie
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Patricia, you asked how the fiber optic network modems works like WiFi. It's that even though it's wired, other people can use their wireless laptops and ipads using that same modem because the modem also acts as a wireless router (WiFi). Notice all the wires on this: http://www.fvstore.com/Pace-AT-amp-T-U-Verse-Wireless-Modem-Router-5031NV/p725130.html. Yet, it called a wireless modem/router/gateway. Here's Comcast wired, wireless gateway/modem/router: http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii505/xxhtownutzxx/481A9447-3741-4B9C-A367-27DBDB0F0825-707-000001090A7A12A1_zps5a666823.jpg

 How Do I Get WiFi in My Home?

To establish WiFi in your home, all you need is either a modem connected to a wireless router, or a wireless gateway, which is a modem and wireless router in one unit. The modem provides access to the Internet, and the router broadcasts a WiFi signal, allowing your devices to connect to each other and the Internet. A WiFi-capable device can then use this signal to connect to the Internet.


As someone mentioned, the WiFi can be disabled, though I've heard that it's always receiving and sending signals back to the company. Don't know if this is true or not.

Tryingtoheal, your modem looks like an ordinary cable modem. But you said it's fiber optic, right? Now I'm confused.  Your modem doesn't look like the modems that are also wireless routers, which is good.  
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Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Patricia
i would do whatever it takes to turn that wifi function off. 
i've never known a modem that didn't have the option 
to turn off the wifi.  sometimes you have to call your ISP
so they can do something at their office.  




On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Wi-Fri [via ES] wrote:

Patricia, you asked how it works like WiFi is that even though it's wired, other people can use their wireless laptops and ipads using that same modem because the modem also acts as a wireless router (WiFi). Notice all the wires on this: http://www.fvstore.com/Pace-AT-amp-T-U-Verse-Wireless-Modem-Router-5031NV/p725130.html. Yet, it called a wireless modem/gateway. Here's Comcast wired, wireless gateway/modem/router: http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii505/xxhtownutzxx/481A9447-3741-4B9C-A367-27DBDB0F0825-707-000001090A7A12A1_zps5a666823.jpg

 How Do I Get WiFi in My Home?

To establish WiFi in your home, all you need is either a modem connected to a wireless router, or a wireless gateway, which is a modem and wireless router in one unit. The modem provides access to the Internet, and the router broadcasts a WiFi signal, allowing your devices to connect to each other and the Internet. A WiFi-capable device can then use this signal to connect to the Internet.


As someone mentioned, the WiFi can be disabled, though I've heard that it's always receiving and sending signals back to the company. Don't know if this is true or not.




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RE: Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Fog Top
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My modem was provided by Centurylink and it does not transmit or receive wirelessly since the connection setting for Wifi has been disabled and "saved".  I have a couple of high frequency analyzers which show that there are no Wifi signals in my house.
 
I once had a ROKU device for streaming to my TV.  It claimed to be wireless or Ethernet, however the Wifi on it could never be turned off, so perhaps some modems are being made that way, too.
 


 

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Subject: [ES] Re: DSL, cable, or dial-up: Which one emits less EMR?

Patricia, you asked how it works like WiFi is that even though it's wired, other people can use their wireless laptops and ipads using that same modem because the modem also acts as a wireless router (WiFi). Notice all the wires on this: http://www.fvstore.com/Pace-AT-amp-T-U-Verse-Wireless-Modem-Router-5031NV/p725130.html. Yet, it called a wireless modem/gateway. Here's Comcast wired, wireless gateway/modem/router: http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii505/xxhtownutzxx/481A9447-3741-4B9C-A367-27DBDB0F0825-707-000001090A7A12A1_zps5a666823.jpg

 How Do I Get WiFi in My Home?

To establish WiFi in your home, all you need is either a modem connected to a wireless router, or a wireless gateway, which is a modem and wireless router in one unit. The modem provides access to the Internet, and the router broadcasts a WiFi signal, allowing your devices to connect to each other and the Internet. A WiFi-capable device can then use this signal to connect to the Internet.


As someone mentioned, the WiFi can be disabled, though I've heard that it's always receiving and sending signals back to the company. Don't know if this is true or not.




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Burnie
 however the Wifi on it could never be turned off, so perhaps some modems are being made that way, too.

I don't know either, Fog Top. But I think I agree with most here who've had problems with DSL. I've had problems with both DSL and cable, but maybe a little less with cable. Thanks for the feedback--now I know it's not just coincidental.