DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS

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DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS

Steph Smith
Hi everyone

I read a recent post about the dreaded flourescent lights and someone made the extremely sensible point that you have to think of the EMFs being emitted from what is fitted in the ceiling below the floor you happen to be on.

This caused me to think - I have problems in my bedrooms because the rooms below have halogen downlights fitted in the ceilings - probably powered by cheap transformers which could be causing fields for me in the bedrooms above. How can I best disable these - without ripping them out and ripping outthe wiring? Would it be enough just to stop the electrical current reaching them by turning that off the fuse for that lighting circuit at the circuit box [this is prob a UK way of expressing this - I don't know how those inthe US or europe would describe this]?? or would I have to do more?

I'll experiment with doing this at least and report back.

Regards

Steph

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Re: DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS

BiBrun
Yes if you kill the fuse or breaker, the transformer is off. If you're
stuck with
low voltage lights (maybe they can be changed to line voltage) you might
investigate whether the transformer can be upgraded. A linear regulated
transformer should only cause low frequency fields in its vicinity.
If you can get a toroidal one (maybe hard to find?) it may be fine at
all frequencies as soon as you're a couple inches away.

In many cases just turning off the light turns off the transformer.
I had a dimmer switch which seemed to cause dirty power even when
off, so going to a regular switch might help.
Bill

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I read a recent post about the dreaded flourescent lights and someone made
> the extremely sensible point that you have to think of the EMFs being
> emitted from what is fitted in the ceiling below the floor you happen to be
> on.
>
> This caused me to think - I have problems in my bedrooms because the rooms
> below have halogen downlights fitted in the ceilings - probably powered by
> cheap transformers which could be causing fields for me in the bedrooms
> above. How can I best disable these - without ripping them out and ripping
> out the wiring? Would it be enough just to stop the electrical current
> reaching them by turning that off the fuse for that lighting circuit at the
> circuit box [this is prob a UK way of expressing this - I don't know how
> those in the US or europe would describe this]?? or would I have to do more?
>
>
> I'll experiment with doing this at least and report back.
>
> Regards
>
> Steph
>
>
>


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Re: DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS

R. Ticle
In reply to this post by Steph Smith
I could be completely incorrect, so someone please do correct me if this isthe wrong information! - but I thought I read here that a problem with certain types of lights, like halogens, or some LEDs, is that they're designedfor 12V, or at least direct current power, of some lower voltage, yet whenthey get screwed into fixtures being fed AC power, the transformer in the bulb converts the higher AC current voltage into a lower current DC voltage, thus producing dirty fields - if that's the case, perhaps using bulbs designed to be fed AC power directly would rectify at least some of the problem...

But as I said, I really could be wrong, so someone please chime in if this is not correct.

R.

--- In [hidden email], "Stephanie Smith" <reader41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi everyone
>
> I read a recent post about the dreaded flourescent lights and someone made the extremely sensible point that you have to think of the EMFs being emitted from what is fitted in the ceiling below the floor you happen to be on.
>
> This caused me to think - I have problems in my bedrooms because the rooms below have halogen downlights fitted in the ceilings - probably powered by cheap transformers which could be causing fields for me in the bedrooms above. How can I best disable these - without ripping them out and ripping out the wiring? Would it be enough just to stop the electrical current reaching them by turning that off the fuse for that lighting circuit at the circuit box [this is prob a UK way of expressing this - I don't know how those in the US or europe would describe this]?? or would I have to do more?
>
> I'll experiment with doing this at least and report back.
>
> Regards
>
> Steph
>

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Re: DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS

R. Ticle
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Oops, Bill, you just said basically what I had (and more); didn't see this answer before I posted.

R.

--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:

>
> Yes if you kill the fuse or breaker, the transformer is off. If you're
> stuck with
> low voltage lights (maybe they can be changed to line voltage) you might
> investigate whether the transformer can be upgraded. A linear regulated
> transformer should only cause low frequency fields in its vicinity.
> If you can get a toroidal one (maybe hard to find?) it may be fine at
> all frequencies as soon as you're a couple inches away.
>
> In many cases just turning off the light turns off the transformer.
> I had a dimmer switch which seemed to cause dirty power even when
> off, so going to a regular switch might help.
> Bill
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I read a recent post about the dreaded flourescent lights and someone made
> > the extremely sensible point that you have to think of the EMFs being
> > emitted from what is fitted in the ceiling below the floor you happen to be
> > on.
> >
> > This caused me to think - I have problems in my bedrooms because the rooms
> > below have halogen downlights fitted in the ceilings - probably poweredby
> > cheap transformers which could be causing fields for me in the bedrooms
> > above. How can I best disable these - without ripping them out and ripping
> > out the wiring? Would it be enough just to stop the electrical current
> > reaching them by turning that off the fuse for that lighting circuit atthe
> > circuit box [this is prob a UK way of expressing this - I don't know how
> > those in the US or europe would describe this]?? or would I have to do more?
> >
> >
> > I'll experiment with doing this at least and report back.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS

Steph Smith
In reply to this post by BiBrun
THanks Bill. I think what I would really love to do is get the 2 sets of low voltage lights transferred to a separate circuit [not sure how difficult that would be to do] so that I could just keep that fuse for that circuit off on a permanent basis since I have other types of more preferable lighting in the vicinity of those low voltage lights. My domestic lighting is on 2circuits, with a set of low voltage lights on each circuit, so last night I switched off both circuits at the fuse box at bedtime and just managed with a good torch - it worked ok and I had a fairly good night so I will continue with the experiment and see how it goes. I imagine the transformer which serves them is fairly cheap - rather than upgrade I'd just rather not use those lights - I don't use them anyway so I won't miss them!
 
Regards
 
Steph

--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] DISABLING HALOGEN DOWNLIGHTS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 8:02 PM


 



Yes if you kill the fuse or breaker, the transformer is off. If you're
stuck with
low voltage lights (maybe they can be changed to line voltage) you might
investigate whether the transformer can be upgraded. A linear regulated
transformer should only cause low frequency fields in its vicinity.
If you can get a toroidal one (maybe hard to find?) it may be fine at
all frequencies as soon as you're a couple inches away.

In many cases just turning off the light turns off the transformer.
I had a dimmer switch which seemed to cause dirty power even when
off, so going to a regular switch might help.
Bill

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I read a recent post about the dreaded flourescent lights and someone made
> the extremely sensible point that you have to think of the EMFs being
> emitted from what is fitted in the ceiling below the floor you happen to be
> on.
>
> This caused me to think - I have problems in my bedrooms because the rooms
> below have halogen downlights fitted in the ceilings - probably powered by
> cheap transformers which could be causing fields for me in the bedrooms
> above. How can I best disable these - without ripping them out and ripping
> out the wiring? Would it be enough just to stop the electrical current
> reaching them by turning that off the fuse for that lighting circuit at the
> circuit box [this is prob a UK way of expressing this - I don't know how
> those in the US or europe would describe this]?? or would I have to do more?
>
>
> I'll experiment with doing this at least and report back.
>
> Regards
>
> Steph
>
>
>

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Just joined the group

johnc992002
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Hello everyone,

Have just joined the group, suspecting I may be sensitive to things electric. Joining actually stimulated me to do a certain amount of Web research and I came across what I think is a very interesting UK site (I'm British):

http://www.wireless-protection.org/index.html

They do filters for dirty electricity, clothing, PC mats, Bed mats, shielding fabrics and so on, and their prices look competetive. I'll be contactingthem by phone very shortly to have a chat - if they actually have a shop, they are based only about 20 miles away from me, so I could go visit. I'll have to ask them if that is possible.

Has anyone done business with these people? If so, any comments - or any comments in general?

Best regards,

John

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Re: Just joined the group

Marc Martin
Administrator
> Has anyone done business with these people? If so, any comments - or any
> comments in general?

It looks like they are selling UK versions of the Stetzer filters? You
could read more about these at: http://www.stetzerelectric.com/

Some people get good results with these, others have sensitivities
that don't seem to be helped by these.

Marc

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Re: Just joined the group

Emil at Less EMF Inc
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> http://www.wireless-protection.org/index.html
>
> Has anyone done business with these people? If so, any comments - or any
> comments in general?

We have worked with them and found them to be ethical, friendly, and
knowledgeable.

Emil